Clinton Supporters Favor Quick Creation of “Dream Ticket”

[cbayer]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/104887/Clinton-Supporters-Favor-Quick-Creation-Dream-Ticket.aspx

A few excerpts.

Fifty-nine percent of Hillary Clinton supporters favor a quick decision to form a "dream ticket" with both Clinton and Barack Obama, while a majority of Obama supporters oppose the idea and would rather the campaign for the nomination continue.

Putting the sentiments of the two candidates' supporters together (and adding in a few undecideds), the overall results from the latest Gallup Poll, conducted March 6-9, show 51% of Democrats favoring an immediate settlement on a joint ticket between the two candidates, while 45% of Democrats think the candidates should soldier on.

National Democrats clearly have mixed feelings on this issue of the pluses and minuses of the continuing Democratic campaign. A plurality of 46% of Democrats say that the fact that the Democrats are continuing to campaign while the Republicans have decided on their nominee doesn't make much difference. While 23% say it is bad for the party, another 29% say it is good for the party. There is little significant difference between Clinton and Obama supporters in responses to this question.

[cbayer]

1. Yeah, I'm kickin my own thread. Sue me.

I just can't believe all the tripe that makes it to the Greatest Page and I can't get a single response on this really interesting issue.

[Joe the Revelator]

4. Whats interesting about it? If I was losing the nomination I would be heavely in support of

making the 2nd place person the nominee and offering the frontrunner the VP spot.

[cbayer]

11. 45% of Obama supporters said they wanted it and wanted it now.

It's not just the Clinton supporters.

[Hawkeye-X]

5. Dead issue.

Like Gardner said - Obama said "No thanks".

Why the hell would Obama accept Hillary when Hillary's been throwing everything including the kitchen sink to save her candidacy (which is already dead, and it's just dragging on now)

[cbayer]

9. Since the majority of democrats polled said thay wanted it

I would be hard-pressed to call it dead.

And for all the talk about the good of the party that goes on around here, I think this merits some careful consideration.

[Hawkeye-X]

14. Well it's been considered, even Dean OK'ed it.

But Hillary didn't want it, which is a complete 180 from what she said earlier..

Hawkeye-X

[cbayer]

16. They are both in a really tight spot where this issue is concerned.

And from all I've seen, both have said it is premature but neither has ruled it out.

Bill Clinton (remember him, the Prez we used to like and respect) called it unstoppable. And he is probably correct about that.

[Joe the Revelator]

21. How is giving the nomination to the loser "good for the party"

that kind of logic just boggles my mind.

[cbayer]

22. This isn't a landslide by any means.

And no one mentioned who might be on the top of the ticket.

Close to half of the democrats have voted for Clinton. And I think this kind of unity would be very good for the party.

[Joe the Revelator]

23. There is a clear leader in states won, the popular vote, and delegates

and that person's name is NOT Hillary Clinton. Once again, it what kind of fantasy land does the loser win the prize?

[cbayer]

26. I'm not going to debate you on that point of who has more of what.

I only make that point that this is a close race and close to half of the voting democrats prefer Clinton.

It's not a beauty contest. It's the freakin POTUS. And I think it would be good for the party to unify the two current camps and move forward.

I don't care who is on the top of the ticket. I just want the democrats to have the biggest win ever in November.

[Joe the Revelator]

30. Its a non-debatable point

its not up for discussion.

[cbayer]

31. And that, sir, is why I chose not to debate you on it.

I have absolutely nothing to say about it.

Promise.

[Andy823]

37. It's called

Clinton logic. Doesn't have to make sense, doesn't have to benefit anyone but her. As long as "she" is the president! :eyes:

She comes up with this crap, and her followers support it, because she doesn't have a chance otherwise, and they know it!

The only "dream" that team would be, is a nightmare for the dems, and a victory for the republicans. McCain would eat them up with all the crap she has been saying about Obama not being ready for the job of president, but OK as VP, and every republican in the country will come out to vote against her. Nope, Obama can win this, and he should take her to task for all the crap she has been saying!

[K Gardner]

2. I'm just sick of hearing about it. I'm sick of polls about it. The ONLY reason anyone

is even talking about it is because HIllary knows she can't get to the White House without Obama.

As Obama said today, " No thanks."

[Dinger]

3. Not A Dream Ticket For Me

My dream ticket is Clinton/Clark.

[Hawkeye-X]

6. Sorry - it's not gonna happen

Hillary will not get the nomination.

[Dinger]

7. Just Let Me Dream Then, O.K.?

Is that asking so much?

[Hawkeye-X]

15. Go ahead. It's a dream for you.

That's all it is, a dream. :hi:

[Dinger]

17. No, To You, It's A Dream I Have, But To Me It's More Than That

It'll be a dream AFTER the nomination is set. You are entitled to your opinion, as I am entitled to mine.:hi:

[KAZ]

12. Obama/Clark . We at least agree on the Clark part.

[Dinger]

25. Really?

Didn't know that.

[KAZ]

28. Back in '04, Wes was the first candidate I ever donated to..

.. before they became the presumptive Dem nominee. He'd be the perfect VP, for either Clinton or Obama.

Edit: spelling

[earthlover]

19. Obama/Clark

[mtnsnake]

48. Same here

Clinton/Clark is the best way to go.

[BlackVelvet04]

8. I guess I'm one that doesn't support the dream ticket. n/t

[SoCalDem]

10. Of course they do..

I find it odd that as the states dwindle and her chances get slimmer, she's now "worried about the unity thing"..

Crass to the nth degree..

[cbayer]

13. 45% of Obama supporters said they wanted a joint ticket.

It's not just a desperate idea coming from the Clinton camp.

But the fact that Clinton supporters want it even more is most likely due to their concern about losing.

[donheld]

18. Hillary worked very hard to earn the disstain of Obama voters

and now she thinks Obama should run as her second. I say to hell with that.

[gravity]

20. Because it is the only way she could get nomination

Clinton has some balls to insists that she should be on top, when she has no hope of winning.

If she concedes to be the VP, then there might be something to it, but right now, it is full of shit.

[cbayer]

24. I have not heard her insist any such thing.

I have heard her say that a lot of voters would like to vote for both. And that might be a possibility in the future. And that the question would be who would be on the top of the ticket. And she thinks it should be her.

But mostly she has said it is premature and she is still in the race to beat Obama. Much the same thing he has said.

[niceypoo]

27. It would bring UNITY to the party...

...having Obama running for P and Hillary as his VP.

But Obamas supporters have no interest in Unity as far as I can tell...

[K Gardner]

29. Nope. We don't. Not with that woman. Sorry its your only hope, but that's the way the mop flops. If

Hillary had acted like a person with dignity, instead of .. well.. a MONSTER, perhaps she'd be considered. As is, I doubt she'll get reelected in NY next time around.

[cbayer]

32. Well, if you look at the poll

you will see that you don't speak for all Obama supporters. 45% of Obama supporters want a unity ticket now. 55% prefer to carry on the current path. And I haven't seen any data on how many openly reject it.

[walldude]

40. Please don't say "we"

I am an Obama supporter but I will hold my nose and vote for Hillary if I must. Even after she threw the party under the bus. I believe many are like me and will put the needs of the country before our own personal animosities. No matter what I think of Hillary and no matter that she actually thinks McCain is more experienced and better suited for the job, we need a Democratic president and a Democratic congress to get anything done. Senate wouldn't hurt either.

[cbayer]

33. It would bring unity

after some initial gnashing of teeth over who is in which position.

But I have no doubt it would bring unity.

[BearSquirrel2]

51. It would bring nasty adds featuring Hillary ...

It would feature nasty adds featuring Hillary calling out Obama as being inexperienced. Hillary nixed the possibility when she did this ... TWICE!!!! She also buggered herself as McCain wins in the "experience" game. Being the president's wife doesn't count.

[cooolandrew]

34. Barack "I am the frontrunner so dontget this confused I am running for preident not vp"

[cbayer]

36. That is a clear and very well worded statement of his current position.

He rules out nothing. Very smart.

[cooolandrew]

35. Barack "I am the frontrunner so dont get this confused I am running for preident not vp"

[walldude]

38. So she'll accept an Obama/Clinton ticket?

Or is it a unity ticket only if she's on top?

[cbayer]

39. I could not possibly speak for either one of them.

But I think they are both brilliant politicians and I will trust them to work this out.

And if they can't, shame on them. They are not the people I thought they were.

[walldude]

41. Oh shit, common sense..

you must be in the wrong place... FWIW I'll take any Democrats, except for Lieberman.. We need to win.

[cbayer]

44. Sweet Walldude!

I will too. We have to win.

[Lord Helmet]

42. somebody tell her she has lost already - seh's embarrassing herself

[NDambi]

43. Hillary on the ticket is not a dream it's a damn NIGHTMARE

[cbayer]

46. Apparently not for the majority of democratic voters.

There are some, apparently like yourself, who find it anathema. But for most of us, it would be a dream come true.

[NDambi]

57. I only speak for myself and for those I know around me...that I know feel the same

[boppers]

45. Way to destroy both coalitions.

How would it be anything but a negative for Obama?

[cbayer]

47. Way to coalesce both coalitions (that sounds really redundant, doesn't it?).

Most democratic voters would be happy with either candidate.

http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/398.pdf

It would bring all of the supporters from both camps together for a common cause.

[boppers]

52. I would give that doc a little more credence...

If it didn't seem dumbed down to the worst of voters.

I suppose another way of making my point, is that it would let the republicans have a unity hate-fest.

Racists, sexists, anti-immigrants, anti-muslims, heck, there's darn little left in the way of perceived negatives for them to *not* attack. It'd be fun to watch for a few days, ugly as all get out to endure for four years.




tyop

[cbayer]

53. You might be right.

The last thing I want is another loss.

But I just don't see it that way. I think we can beat the haters and bigots. I think we have a chance to beat them back. I think we are fired up and ready for them.

But I'm no seer.

[BearSquirrel2]

49. ... would rather the campaign for the nomination continue.

Talk about a loaded/spun question. No Obama supporters would prefer Hillary give her conciliation speech and endorse Barack Obama. At the very least, we would hope that Clinton would suggest that she order the ticket according the the delegate count.

[cbayer]

55. Could be me, but I've read your post 5 times and I am still not clear.

If you would, please re-phrase for me.

[BearSquirrel2]

58. Oops, forgot a comma.

Talk about a loaded/spun question. No, Obama supporters would prefer Hillary give her conciliation speech and endorse Barack Obama. At the very least, we would hope that Clinton suggest that she order the ticket according the the delegate count.

Those funny little punctuation marks can complete change the meaning of a sentence.

[NMMatt]

50. Of course Clinton supporters want their bullshit ticket because that's

the only way to get Clinton on a ticket. The voters aren't putting her there.

[cbayer]

54. Did you read the survey report?

The majority of democrats want a unity ticket now.

It's a small margin, but it exists.

[NMMatt]

56. Sure, some Obama supporters want her as VP

To make it end. I understand that sentiment - even though I believe she would detract from him in the GE. Hillary supporters favor it by a wide margin because that's about the only way they can win.