OMG- Bill Clinton called a Clinton/Obama ticket an "unstoppable force" today!

[npincus]

FUX just showed a clip of it- it's true. Clip was from a townhall meeting today in Miss., Clinton was answering a question.

Very interesting...

[Colobo]

1. The Clintons are pathetic.

[speedoo]

22. Absolutely.

They do things no other dem would do. But then, they are not really dems anyway.

[thunder rising]

26. Hillary could trust Barack as VP, but not vice versa. Have to stay away from small planes for sure

[TwilightGardener]

31. Who would want to own the beating heart that stands between her and

the Presidency?

[musicblind]

51. I'm sorry guys

I know you don't really MEAN it. (Or I hope) But it is pretty horrible to imply that a fellow democrat who has done so much for this nation would murder another democrat to become president. Much less to imply that they would murder the sitting president in order to take over his position.


btw, congrats on Wyoming.

[TwilightGardener]

53. I'm dead serious--and I won't take it back.

[hedgehog]

69. Yes, it is only in this campaign that anyone would make such a suggestion.

By the way, ever hear of the play, Macbird?

http://www.brumm.com/MacBird/


Seriously, neither Clinton would ever physically harm an opponent. Metaphorically though, they'd put a knife in the back of anyone who stood in their way.

[woolldog]

33. Obama's life-insurance guy would have a heart attack

if Obama accepted Clinton as a VP.

[npincus]

72. I never thought of that.... you have a point.

[City Lights]

28. Pathetic leeches.

:puke:

[SoCalDem]

46. BC is a smart cookie

he knows that their ONLY hope is to somehow woo back the voters he pissed off in SC.. Guess what Bill?

You offering the guy in 1st place, a back seat behind YOU, is not a deal they want to see..

[hedgehog]

70. I think offering Barak Obama the VP spot when he is ahead in delegates

resonates with the notion that he is being relegated a seat in the back of the bus.

[mudesi]

2. Begging now?

It's a new tactic, I'll give her that.

[Whisp]

sounds more like threatening than begging.

pick Hilliar as your running mate or we'll put the meat grinder on hi speed, Barack.

disgusting pieces of shit, the Clintons.
omg, they are as poisonous as any repuglathug.

[TheWraith]

3. So he's a liar, drug addict, incompetant, manipulator, but he'd be a GREAT VP!

And the Clinton campaign continues to add meaning to the word "bipolar."

[Elidor]

19. Indeed

They don't actually want Obama. They want his base and his money. His car is going all the way to the Denver, while they're out of gas and thumbing a ride. Apparently they think he's stupid, as well.

[cottonseed]

25. Right. So now they'll put a guy unqualified to answer a phone on the ticket?

These guys can't have it both ways. He's either commander in chief material or he's not.

[XemaSab]

35. As the good ol' boys from red state update put it (and I paraphrase):

Answering a phone? Running a Xerox machine?

Exactly what job are these people applying for? :shrug:

[LaurenG]

4. That'll be great Obama/Clinton!! Yay!

;)

[Eurobabe]

5. Bill is still living in Fantasyland, if he thinks Obama wants to run

on any ticket with a Clinton after how they've trashed him these past 2 weeks?

I.DON'T.THINK.SO

[NightWatcher]

6. do not let her on that ticket as the VP, she'll only drag him down

McCain will be able to show video of her slamming Obama and saying that McCain has more experience.

IMHO Hillary burned that bridge long ago.

[Lucky 13]

58. Hillary "Cement Shoes" Clinton n/t

[TwilightGardener]

7. Trying to manipulate the black vote. They should both burn in hell.

[Dogmudgeon]

13. "They should both burn in hell."

No comment necessary.

--p!

[TwilightGardener]

17. Yep.

[TwilightGardener]

34. By the way, defend the fact that the Clintons have only been winking at

this in a predominantly black state?

[flpoljunkie]

8. Total political calculation! Vote for Hil and you get Barack! It's past time to "turn the page" on

the Clintons!

[City Lights]

32. It's a threesome now! Vote for Hill, and get Hill, Bill and Barack!

:thumbsdown:

[flpoljunkie]

50. The Clinton want to win in the worst way and they are proving it more every day.

[Pirate Smile]

9. Obama will be at the top of the ticket and after what the Clinton's have

said about him, I think it would be extremely hard for him to ask her to be his VP.

Plus, the VP spot under Hillary and Bill would be miserable.

[Mme. Defarge]

10. In the Clintons'

dreams!

[Zachstar]

11. Hey Bill!! HELL NO!!

The Clintons are sick. They want to trick some voters there to think that a vote for Clinton is a vote for Obama as VP.

Obama is on the path to become our president. I hope we expose Clinton to them so they understand they are full of crap.

There is no way in hell Obama will accept being her VP. He is in it to win and he will NOT betray his supporters.

[surfin]

18. If he did, he would lose this supporter

I feel many others would leave. How could you vote for Hillary based on the facts we have learned about her. People who be hypocrites who said they were against the war and then you vote for Hillary.

[Zachstar]

41. And that is the reason Bill is talking about it.

This concept is called FUD. They want to not only make people think a vote for Clinton is a vote for Obama but they want to make it seem like Obama could betray us and become the VP.

Everyone our job is to not only expose Clinton for what she is to get him the nomination. We also have to stop the chance that he may be "Backroom dealt" Clinton as the VP.

Also it is an insult to Clinton Supporters to even talk about Her being the VP or having Obama as their VP. Some of them do not like Obama for his choices and they will feel betrayed if Clinton picked him as VP or went for VP.

Let us not be distracted too much with their stupid ass talk about VP. Let them alienate the remaining supporters they have left.

Let us focus on Exposing Clinton for what she REALLY is.

[surfin]

12. Watch out the big boys are pushing this to eliminate Obama

They are also using she wins the big states. The powers in DC do not want Obama and watch for these two to grow. Wash Post and NYT have contribute stories and watch for more. They will push the SD to pick her this time of exp and he gets his turn next.

I will not vote for any ticket with Clinton on it. We must protest the war and not cave in like people do all the time.

Obama, leaders of new movement stand up to the powers and it may cost you but do not cave in to be VP. You would be a vp to Bill and seldom heard of unless a funeral comes up.

[Beregond2]

14. Bill

Well, he knows his wife can't get the nom, so he's trying to find a backdoor. As if, after all the crap she's pulled, that could ever happen. He's just making her look weak. I can't believe a man who has been considered the smartest politician of his time could have made so many boneheaded moves with regards to Hillary's campaign. I still think on some level he is deliberately undermining her.

[Diane R]

15. So they can only get votes if peole think they'll get Obama, too? Isn't that pathetic?

[blm]

16. TeamClinton's been pushing that heavy now because it's the only way they have left to sell her

to the super delegates they are trying to reel in with that promise.

They KNOW they don't have the votecount and that more supers are siding with Obama and that he IS the presumptive nominee unless they can DRASTICALLY swing nearly all the supers to their side.

Not going to happen. This is a highly manipulative and desperate last ditch effort.

[Inuca]

77. Exactly

It's nothing but a typical manipulative effort. I hope people will not fall for it, and I am glad that Obama seems to have expressed (as per another thread here) a clear lack of interest in the option.

[cottonseed]

20. I thought Obama didn't cross the commander in chief threshold?

Could it be the Clinton's are trying to have it both ways?

[DemzRock]

Sorry - browser problem - double post. n/t

[DemzRock]

21. Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama was already decided in back rooms before Iowa. I betcha. n/t

[Sir Jeffrey]

23. Come on guys! It would be unstoppable...

the vomit buildup in my esophagus, that is


:puke:

[TwilightGardener]

24. For those who keep missing the racial component of this, notice he

and Hillary have only been hinting at this IN MISSISSIPPI.

[SoCalDem]

27. Obama:.."now where DID I put those scissors?"

[TwilightGardener]

29. That is awesome.

[ProSense]

40. LOL! n/t

[leftstreet]

44. LOL!

[Catherina]

65. That's a great toon! n/t

[donheld]

30. It's also an unstartable force

[XemaSab]

36. Due to the sheer mass of the

baggage, perhaps? :shrug:

[apocalypsehow]

37. He's dreaming.

n/t.

[Jersey Devil]

43. not dreaming - manipulating

I believe he is speaking to blacks in MI, telling them they can get "two for the price of one" with Hillary and Obama on the ticket.

[Inuca]

78. You mean

three for the price of one, right? It would be a bad idea in any case, but with Bill in the picture it becomes an asysmal idea for Barack.

[Lucinda]

38. It would be. Doesn't mean we should.

:)

[kwenu]

39. Bill knows what's coming and is trying to sell the idea of keeping Hillary on the ticket.

[TwilightGardener]

49. No--he knows they'll never be a ticket. He's trying to tell black voters

that if they vote for Hillary, they'll get Obama too, and then they don't have to make a hard choice between them. It's dishonest and sickening.

[berni_mccoy]

42. Sad. They know they are beat and are now trying to kiss up.

Confronted with this map below, they realize it's all but over.

[Medusa]

45. They actually believe that they can force Obama into being on

their "dream ticket". I wouldn't go near either of them with a ten-foot pole. Hillary is desperate. She knows that she will not win the nomination so she is going to beg to be on the ticket and if she can, she'll try and convince Obama to take the VP slot--you know, doing the FRONTRUNNER a big favor and all-cause she's generous like that. :eyes:

[Kokonoe]

47. Oh Yeah , And don't forget if you want Obama just vote Hillary!!

Up is down.:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Sadly this stuff works

[stray cat]

48. But his wife said Obama was unprepared. Bill and Hillary need more talk time.

[PetraPooh]

52. I hope Obama realizes that

if Hellary is on the ticket at all, he won't be getting my vote, or I suspect many others.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

57. +*+* +* You win Dumbest post of the day! *+*+*++

This new "I will not vote for Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama" thing is beyond the already extravagant standards of DU idiocy.

[PetraPooh]

62. Its the truth, like it or not. She has betrayed the party in many an eye.

[Carrieyazel]

54. No, that ticket is an "unwinnable one". Clinton is saying some wild things.

[npincus]

55. I guess he's after the "latte-sippers" vote.

[tishaLA]

56. A poll tested statement

that allows people to think a vote for Sen Clinton isn't *so* bad because they can still get Obama with it.

Bullshit. Obama needs to make clear he has NO interest in VP. None.

[MzShellG]

59. Clinton/Obama? C'mon, Bill, 'this whole thing is a fairytale'.

Furthmore Obama/Clinton is simply not gonna happen. Barack is a smart cookie. He knows better than that.

[AtomicKitten]

60. She can't win so is trying to staple her lame ass to the ticket.

[K Gardner]

61. I just heard this on CNN, they're playing the clip. Unfucking believable. Can Obama

just come out and say "No FUCKING way?"

Those people have no shame, no dignity, no pride.. they are both a disgrace.

[AtomicKitten]

63. Obama: "You Won't See Me as a VP Candidate"

Obama: "You Won't See Me as a VP Candidate"
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/03/obama-you-wont.html

ABC News' Sunlen Miller reports: While in Casper, Wyo., today Sen. Barack Obama ruled out the possibility being a vice presidential candidate during an interview with CBS' Montana affiliate KTVQ. Here is a transcipt of what he said.

Q: You’ve raised $55 million in February and in your speech today you said "I was against the war in ’03, ’04, ’05 -- all the way on through 2010, and you specifically mentioned Hillary Clinton and John McCain. Could you ever see yourself on the same ticket as Senator Clinton?

A: Well, you know, I think it’s premature. You won’t see me as a vice presidential candidate -- you know, I’m running for president. We have won twice as many states as Senator Clinton, and have a higher popular vote, and I think we can maintain our delegate count -- but you know, what I’m really focused on right now, because all that stuff is premature, is winning this nomination and changing the country. And I think that’s what people here are concerned about. How are you going to provide health care to every American? So I spend a lot of time talking about the plan I wanted to put in place that would not only lower costs for those who already have health insurance, but also make sure people who don’t have health insurance can get health care as good as the health care I have as a member of Congress. Those are the kinds of issues that really make a difference in people’s lives, and we’re going to keep on talking about them.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4962265

[K Gardner]

64. Good !

[Lucky 13]

66. She believes she's OWED something.... AGAIN.

Being on the DLC and a former first lady doesn't mean she is owed the nomination. And blowing her shot by running a poorly constructed, vile, traitorous campaign... and LOSING... does not merit her assuming she'll even be remotely considered for Barack's VP slot.

Why would Barack do his best to wage a clean, civil campaign only to let that venemous snake taint his fresh start for America?

Nice try, Hillabee. Go try that scam on McCain.

[fujiyama]

67. Clever on their part

I gotta give it to them....

But Bill also knows that the other day's comments by Hillary regarding experience won't help - that if the same "threshold" were applied for him in '92, he shouldn't have been elected.

[Samantha]

68. Repeated remarks of this nature are a belittling technique

The arrogance with which it is suggested by the Clintons imply that while Obama is not qualified to become the Commander-in-Chief, he is a candidate to be tutored for such as second in command (read understudy) during Hillary's 8 years. Just another plank in the Clinton platform to demean and belittle Obama's qualifications. Say it often enough and people will automatically start seeing him as a Vice Presidential candidate, rather than a contender for the top spot.

[easy_b94]

71. This is getting silly

[npincus]

73. I like this pic of Obama....

[smotrage]

74. They know the country's not ready for a black president or VP.

This is just a ploy to get some black votes. After Hillary wins Pennsylvania, Michigan and Florida, Obama will be as forgotten as Howard Dean, and Wesley Clark will be her running mate.

[Inuca]

79. IF she wins PA, MI and FL

Obama will almost certainly have more delegates. Putting aside the fact that Dean us still not forgotten, how many delgates exactly did he have and how many states did he win (hint: VT). Try making sense, but I am probably asking for too much.

[kitty1]

75. Hillary is betting on more people voting for her if they think Obama...

will definitely be on the ticket. If he at least has the # 2 spot, I think people overall would still be okay with that. More people would be convinced to vote for Hillary if there is a good chance he will be her VP.
If there is no assurance that he will be on board, she doesn't have any hope really.
It's a sneaky manoeuver on her part, but smart.
If she is bullshitting about this and leading people on to get votes, it's pretty desperate.
If Obama comes out and denies that he would accept the VP position, it would look bad for him too. That he's not putting the party first.
So Billary seems to have him over a barrel.
He could also bullshit and do the same thing with her though, but she needs him on board more than he needs her right now.

[RBInMaine]

76. ABSOLUTELY ! Everything they do is calculated for effect.