The Truth about the NAFTA lie

[OhioBlue]

Was that somehow the Clinton Campaign convinced some Ohioans to vote for her despite the fact that BILL CLINTON signed NAFTA.

HE F-in SIGNED IT. She was in the WH gaining all of the so-called experience on her resume. She did nothing. She says she was against it... (which I call BS on) and she says she is a "doer" well then why the Hell did she sit on her ass and do nothing but "think" it might not be the best thing? She didn't take any f-in action to stop it.

Tell that to the thousands of people that have seen their jobs eliminated and benefits disappear as factories have closed all over Ohio.

That is the GD NAFTA lie.

The Clintons gave us NAFTA.

I still can't understand how she got any Union endorsements in Ohio. They HATE and I mean HATE NAFTA. NAFTA contributes to the declining support among Union members for the Democratic Party. The Union members are sold on the fact that the Republicans will let them keep their guns, and they lost faith in the Dems to stand up for them b/c of freakin' NAFTA.

I know PA is similar to Ohio in this respect, so PA DUers - don't forget this. Remind your neighbors who signed NAFTA. Don't let them be bamboozled like my fellow Ohioans were.

[Dogmudgeon]

1. They also know that Obama supports NAFTA.

The two candidates are identical -- they support free trade, but want to adjust it to have less impact on manufacturing and similar jobs.

--p!

[OhioBlue]

2. Clinton signed NAFTA. n/t

[Dogmudgeon]

5. Hillary signed NAFTA? Who knew?

:shrug:

--p!

[OhioBlue]

7. Clinton signed NAFTA

you know, the Clinton Administration
the 2 for 1
where she got all of her so called experience.

[Dogmudgeon]

14. Stop the presses! Campaign rhetoric now signs treaties!

--p!

[OhioBlue]

22. you want campaign rhetoric?

How about not being accountable for the GD bills signed by the Administration that you claim on your resume and trying to project it onto another candidate b/c someone in their campaign may or may not have said something about it to someone in Canada.

That is the lie.

she owns NAFTA.

[Shakespeare]

24. Well, she sure wants us to believe she was instrumental in big decisions like that.

Sorry, she doesn't get to cherry pick.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

26. NAFTA sure helped Hillary's ex-employer Wal-Mart. n/t

[papau]

4. and Bush41 agreed to it - and side agreement with no enforcement was Congressional decision

[Iceburg]

3. And NAFTA gave the US oil; Obama voted to extend NAFTA to Peru.

[jillan]

11. Obamans always seem to forget about that Peru Trade Deal.

Inconvenient facts.

[elixir]

6. Ohioans could tell that Clinton supported review of NAFTA.

[OhioBlue]

9. Ohioans should have remembered who signed it

when machines were unbolted from the floor, loaded onto trucks and shipped to Mexico.

They should have remembered who signed it and caused Union support for the Dem party to nose dive.

[Fresh_Start]

8. Bush Sr signed NAFTA

Clinton signed worker and environmental protections which were supplemental agreements

[OhioBlue]

10. Clinton signed NAFTA into law. n/t

[Fresh_Start]

12. NAFTA signed by all three countries 12/17/92

Clinton pushed NAFTA through Congress using supplemental agreements to ameliorate worker and environmental issues

NAFTA created jobs during the earlier part of Clinton's administration....as indeed the economic models said it would. However fundamental issues in Mexico's economy which were misunderstood were not adequately factored in the analysis.

Since I know for a fact that jobs in the industry I was working in the 80's were already being exported from the US....I'm not going to foolish enough to blame the outsourcing issue on NAFTA. Yes, there have been some job losses to NAFTA partners but there have been benefits from NAFTA parties as well.

[OhioBlue]

13. what part of signed into law did you miss?

Bill Clinton signed it into law. the side agreements were not enforceable.

Clinton signed a job killing trade agreement into law.

[Fresh_Start]

16. The agreement signed by President Bush

was that NAFTA became law (under international law) once it was approved by the three countries legislatures....it didn't not require a second US Presidential signature

[OhioBlue]

17. the law passed by congress was signed by Clinton

he touts it on his resume.

[Fresh_Start]

19. Yes, he does. But as far as I know it did not require a second

US presidents signature. President Bush's signature was sufficient once Congress past it

[OhioBlue]

20. well, now we agree

Clinton did sign it, touts in on his resume and Hill wants to run on his resume.

It was a job killing trade deal that Bill signed into law and the Clintons tout as a success.

That is much more important than if someone in a campaign spoke to someone in another country about campaign rhetoric.

There is the lie.

[Dogmudgeon]

15. Don't bother them with facts, their minds are made up.

They also believe that Bill initiated the Iraq sanctions (passed in 1990 by the UN).

--p!

[OhioBlue]

18. fact is Clinton signed NAFTA into law. n/t

[Danzo]

21. Whorebama Didn't Do Anything...

...to stop the corruption at the University Of Chicago hospital, where his wife was one of the VPs. And unlike Hillary, Barack actually had SOME power to something about it, since he was a Illinois State Senator at the time.

Obamatruth.org

[OhioBlue]

23. yeah.. another Danzo pop up.

[Danzo]

25. I See That Nothing's Changed

Your responses to my posts are just as devoid of substance as they always were.