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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:43 PM
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The more that I see Hillary being Hillary
The more disappointed that I get at the prospect that she won't be president of the United States.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvO-zWOXIFs

It's great seeing her so relaxed.

Feel free to bash away. We all know you are gonna do it anyways...
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:45 PM
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1. I'm with YOU!!
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 08:13 PM by Double T
Haven't given up by ANY stretch YET!!! HRC is the ONLY ONE that can pull this nation out of its tailspin.
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Rene Donating Member (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:11 PM
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32. I'm with you TOO. Hillary's the one to lead.
Remember how gw promised to 'change' DC 7 years ago....look at the mess we're in.
4 years of an obama admin will be chaos.
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:46 PM
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2. I'm going through the same thing.
x(
I really really really would like her as my president.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:47 PM
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5. Its a shame that I can't support her due to her IWR, Kyl/Lieberman vote.... n/t
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:49 PM
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9. And I didn't support Bill in his first primary because of the death penalty
I understand. We all have our deal breakers.
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Demagitator Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:46 PM
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3. I support Hillary
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 07:46 PM by Demagitator
She is anti-Repuke and will not allow her staff to be infected with Repukes if she wins.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:58 PM
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22. "
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 08:11 PM by RUMMYisFROSTED
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:47 PM
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4. How the HELL can you tell that it is the real her? and not a concoction of
her infamous voice lessons, video feedback training, and more?

my god you are gullible. There is NOTHING real about Hillary. The one I met years ago was so obnoxious, that voting for her would be as bad as voting for George or Jeb.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:49 PM
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10. really?
maybe you need to get George and Jeb before you can make any comparison of Clinton to either of them.

But, i applaud your effort to smear clinton. it doesn't work, though.
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Demagitator Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:52 PM
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15. Hillary at one time was a liberal...
It was Bill Clinton who was the first time in the history of the Dems a anti-liberal Democrat. Hillary had to stand by her family, as the good wife so that Bill could get the White WASP vote.

I'm sure, if she is elected she will be more liberal then Obama, mainly because she knows what liberalism is.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:53 PM
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16. I'm sure she said the same about you.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:02 PM
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25. as a matter of fact, our entire ABA committee were " the little people"
hardly worth anything except to be a target of her wrath. She was, in no uncertain terms, similar to a five letter word for a female dog. Demanding, abusive, obnoxious and insulting - when every single detail, (most of which were out of our hands and never within our control) did not portray her as brilliant, the queen, and simply wonderful. Since when did a wife of a state governor have a staff of five PR people working with her?

hillary has a mental problem. I suspect that it is now more visible and on public display far more obviously than ever before, and her campaign, which she controlled and directed, is a prime example of her mental issues. Whether that problem is way too much ego, and too little talent, or something else, I do not know. I am just very glad she will never be president.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:09 PM
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29. She was demaing to lawyers? Well, well.
Which committee was it?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:14 PM
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35. Law practice management.
we were asked to have her as keynote speaker. the theme was the glass ceiling.

Let me put it this way. RUDE simply doesn't come close. The worst part was, there was absolutely no reason to act like she did, except that it seemed to come naturally.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:18 PM
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39. Sorry you had that experience. But I'm sure you've dealt with worse, like Lexis sales reps.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:19 PM
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42. I actually dated a lexis rep. she was great.
but, I understand what you mean.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:47 PM
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6. Blame Hillary, she's the one who decided to create this fake image of herself.
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 07:50 PM by Drunken Irishman
The same thing happened to Gore in 2000, instead of being himself, he tried too hard to not be himself and it turned out horribly.

Had Hillary been Hillary this entire election, she very well could've won. But instead she was corrupted by her campaign and turned into what many thought Hillary should have been. When in reality, it probably wasn't her at all.

Too bad she couldn't see this and played the part of multiple images.
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:48 PM
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7. I won't bash. I like her, admire her, will vote for her if I have the chance.
I keep saying, she's acquitting herself well and I'm delighted that in my 70 years, I've lived to see a woman making a serious run for the presidency. Honestly never thought it would happen. Oh, and as an added bonus, I like her! But want to be clear that if Obama is the nominee, I'll vote for him. My motto? ABAR--Anyone But A Republican! Our future is at stake!

Tired Old Cynic
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:49 PM
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8. You're singing to the choir here and you have quite a lovely voice!
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 08:05 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:01 PM
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23. Thanks :)
:loveya:

I especially loved the part about the coconut.

:)

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:50 PM
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11. Did you see what she said about Obama being a Muslim?
She takes him at his word that he isn't.

I hope that makes you proud.

I'd be ashamed myself.
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:51 PM
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14. I am so not understanding why such a deal is being made of that.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:53 PM
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18. Because of course he isn't.
It intimates that she doesn't believe it, but she'll take his word that he is.



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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:55 PM
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20. It was a shitty question.
Which she could have answered differently. She said she didn't believe he was Muslim. It's a delicate question. You don't want to make it seem like being Muslim would be a bad thing. It's just that he's not Muslim.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:05 PM
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26. She knows that is the rumor, Drudge says it was a Hillary person that sent him
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 08:13 PM by dkf
the pic of Obama in native Somalia garb. She should have shot it down. Instead she plays it as an "I'll take him at his word".

Her campaign has been repeatedly accused of spreading this rumor, and for the first time, I saw it with my own eyes.

She knows what she was doing. I have lost all respect for her. Again. For like the millionth time this campaign.

Why can't she impress me once in a while hmm? Do I ask her to constantly be throwing out stuff I despise?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:50 PM
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12. I'll just have to "take you at your word".
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 07:50 PM by wienerdoggie
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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:50 PM
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13. God I hope Clinton wins
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:55 PM
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19. Me too.....
I certainly cannot take four years of walking on eggshells about this guy.....

If I say "I take him at his word" that's what I mean. And, Geesh..... why keep reading all sorts of sh** into it?

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la la Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:01 PM
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24. me too-
bash me if you must---but I do not trust obama---and, yes I will vote for him if he gets the nomination---but I still won't trust him till he shows me he's up to the job, and not just the new messiah.

flame away, buds! :hide:
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:53 PM
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17. I so miss John Edwards, but without him
I am so behind Hillary.

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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 07:55 PM
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21. Who the hell is the real Hillary?
Edited on Sun Mar-02-08 07:56 PM by theboss
I've seen her or read about her once a day for the past 16 years, and I couldn't begin to describe her real personality. I couldn't even describe her public personality.

I believe I have a pretty good take on her husband. With her, I got nothin'.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:14 PM
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34. What the fuck does that mean?
Seriously?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:17 PM
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38. it means that if you attack their queen, you are sexist, unable to see her
perfection, and that you will be their target once the masses realize that she is inevitable, the ONLY person worthy of the office, and everyone else matters not. Especially if you had the misfortune of living in a caucus state. Bwah! caucus states. How idiotic they all are not to realize her perfection, her brilliance, her astounding genius? Like when she flunked the bar the first time, and had to run away all the way to ArKansas to find the easiest bar in the country to pass.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:22 PM
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44. For the curious
One poster attacked, saying that to state that after all these years we do not know the true Hillary Clinton is to speak "like a true Rethuglican male."

I wish that the mods had left it up, because it exposes the hyperbole that has become the stock-in-trade of that very vocal supporter of Sen. Clinton.

I, too, do not know Sen. Clinton. Is she the warm and fuzzy Clinton of the soft focus lens, chatting on daytime television, or is she the ruthless politician referring to Sen. Obama's "spadework" and implying that he just might be a secret Muslim?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:27 PM
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47. soft focus lens. heh heh. That was WAY TOO OBVIOUS @ last debate.
almost distracting. Her advance team set the ground rules, demanding which lens, at what diffusion power would be used.

She can never just be herself. because, the sad truth is, there is no there there.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:07 PM
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27. So, she will never, ever, be President?
It's not like she can't ever run again.

Nixon lost in '60. Just saying.

Seems like a bit of jumping to conclusions for me.
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:09 PM
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30. Unless she runs again in 2012
Age will become a factor...
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:09 PM
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31. Seeing Hillary being Hillary has had the opposite effect on me nt
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WVRevy Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:14 PM
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33. It's a shame
And as an Obama supporter, you can rest assured that I MEAN that. It's a shame that at THIS particular time in history, she happened to run up against a candidate that has captured the public's imagination.

Hillary would have been a VERY GOOD president, possibly even a GREAT one. Unfortunately, it does not look like that is going to happen. Fortunately, in my opinion, the party's nominee is ALSO someone that has the potential to be a great president. In all the infighting that goes on here and elsewhere on the intertubes, it's easy to forget just how lucky we are to have two GREAT nominees to choose from.
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:19 PM
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41. The party does not have a nominee yet /nt
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WVRevy Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:27 PM
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48. Yeah, it kinda does...
...the party leadership has already stated that the supers should vote for the person with the most pledged delegates. That's going to be Obama. I'm sorry, but it IS. You might as well start getting used to the idea.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:14 PM
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36. Too bad she followed such horrible advise.
I like her, too, when I feel she is being genuine. But, mostly she has been whatever she feels will get her ahead at any particular time. And, she hs relied on horrible, bad advise.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:15 PM
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37. Tell me about it
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:19 PM
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40. I like Hillary like that.... but sadly she follows with
poor comments (just look at her latest one).
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:21 PM
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43. That is a discussion for another thread /nt
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:24 PM
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45. But WHICH Hillary is "being Hillary"????
Hillary the nicey nice lady who is "honored" to share the stage with Obama? Hillary the catty ranter who whines like a schoolgirl about mailers? Hillary the cryer? Hillary who has finally found her own voice? Hillary the spouter of juvenile sarcasm at her rallies? Hillary the one who takes more corporate money than the Republicans? Hillary who uses scare tactic commercials from decades past ala the Republicans?
Hillary the wife of the "boy from Hope" who told us to "Keep Hope alive!" who now ridicules inspiring speeches with essentially the same message? Hillary the inevitable centrist candidate? Hillary the new-found Edwards-like fighting populist? Hillary who was against NAFTA then for it but now against it again? Hillary the corporate Rose Law Firm/Walmart Board fat cat lawyer? Hillary the acceptor of hundreds of thousands of dollars from the now-convicted-and-jailed Norman Hsu? Just which Hillary are you referring to? Maybe it depends on which way the wind is blowing. (?????)
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:36 PM
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50. you forgot
the hillary that was being attacked by the MEN in the campaign, and the the fact that people asked her questions first. (how mean of them was that?)
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:25 PM
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46. If only she'd acted like that throughout the campaign, the nomination would have been hers
Instead, she kept up the 'inevitability' meme and the tough look, which backfired. Big time.
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Savannah_H Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 08:31 PM
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49. too late
...but it's too late and you'll have to forget about Hillary as president

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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 09:01 PM
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51. In it to win it!
She is awesome...I hope she will be able to sit in the White House again!
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DDQ Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 09:42 PM
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52. Such hatred by many Obama supporters on this thread
You must think it is in line with Obama's campaign?

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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:13 AM
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53. I've seen it.
She was funny and self deprecating when she made fun of how some people react to seeing Huma: "She was on Vogue".......

This is the Hillary that those who know her would recognize. She's sarcastic and very witty, she's also known for doing good impressions.


:D
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