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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:14 PM
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Obama ~ NAFTA & the Canadian Embassy ~ FALSE STORY
I admit I thought the CTV story was true, and was very disappointed, and wanted more info, verification etc.

The story is continually repeated here but it is FALSE, I am relived to know.

Here is the AP article, the most credible source I have seen:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gUW0ApBGkGgu5CfdiXsMTzGe8jDAD8V3HL181

Fact Check: Obama Denies Report on Trade
5 hours ago
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — The Canadian embassy and Barack Obama's campaign are denying a report that the presidential candidate's criticism of the North American Free Trade Agreement is just campaign rhetoric that he doesn't really believe.
THE SPIN:
Canadian television network CTV cited anonymous sources who said a senior Obama adviser called Canadian ambassador Michael Wilson within the last month to warn him that Obama would criticize the agreement, but it was just the typical words uttered on the campaign trail.
THE FACTS:
Canada supports NAFTA, a trade agreement between the United States, Canada and Mexico that is the largest trading partnership in the world. But it's widely opposed in Ohio, where jobs have been lost since the deal was implemented and where Obama and rival Hillary Rodham Clinton are trying to win a primary Tuesday.
Roy Norton, a minister at the Canadian embassy, told The Associated Press in a telephone interview that Wilson and other embassy officials have expressed their support for NAFTA and their positions on other issues to officials from the three leading presidential campaigns — Obama, Clinton and likely Republican nominee John McCain.
But he said at no time has anyone from the Obama campaign told anyone at the embassy that his position on NAFTA is just for show. "It didn't happen," Horton said.
In a statement, the Canadian Embassy disputed the television story.
"The Canadian Embassy confirms that at no time has any member of a presidential campaign called the Canadian Ambassador or any official at the Embassy to discuss NAFTA. Last night, the Canadian television network CTV falsely reported that such calls had been made. That story is untrue. Neither before nor since the Ohio debate has any presidential campaign called Ambassador Wilson or the embassy to raise NAFTA."
On his campaign plane, Obama said: "It wasn't true."
His campaign also denied the CTV report.
"When Senator Obama says that he will forcefully act to make NAFTA a better deal for American workers, he means it," said Obama spokesman Bill Burton. "Both Canada and Mexico should know that, as president, Barack Obama will do what it takes to create and protect American jobs and strengthen the American economy — that includes amending NAFTA to include labor and environmental standards."
Asked about the report Thursday, McCain said although he thinks NAFTA has been good for the United States and disagrees with "the forces of protectionism that want to scrap it," he didn't have any knowledge of the conversation involving Obama's advisers.
By Nedra Pickler
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:14 PM
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1. bump
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KLee Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:17 PM
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3. bump
Thanks for posting :)
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:16 PM
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2. Yep, Clintons jumped on that attack opportunity to soon, and all the Kool-Aid drinking Clinton ..
supporters believed every word, again.


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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:19 PM
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6. But of course, you wouldn't use that as an opportunity to call people names, would you?
Redstone
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:22 PM
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9. If "Kool-Aid drinking" is a name then yes I guess I will. Just pointing out how they swallow every..
..thing that the Clintons hand them without question.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:25 PM
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16. They, they, they. "Hey, you know how THOSE people are."
"They." "Those people." The shields behind which ignorant people have hidden themselves for a thousand years.

Redstne
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:29 PM
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20. Clearly the people who believed what the Clintons told them without question are the ignorant ones
If you have a better word for "they" I would be happy to consider it.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:32 PM
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22. Nope. Not playing your game.
Redstone
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:24 PM
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15. Where did either Clinton attack Obama over this? Link?
Thanks.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:17 PM
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4. Sad part is that the Hillary campaign attacked Obama based on
a lie.

Which doesn't bode well for someone aspiring to the highest office in the land.

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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:18 PM
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5. "anonymous sources"

I could make a guess as to the "anonymous sources"

CTV should check the Facts before it runs unsubstantiated

Shit from "anonymous sources"
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:20 PM
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7. False Story ??? A Denied Story is not a False Story!!!!
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 09:21 PM by BeatleBoot
And Nedra Pickler has been lambasted on here by Obama supporters as a shill.

Now her reporting is good?

Sounds like a big coverup to me.



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KLee Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:23 PM
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11. Coverup?
A Canadian Embassy official has denied it happening, and yet you still think there is some conspiracy? WOW!
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:53 PM
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23. A government denial is proof that a story is false?
Haven't you learned anything in the last 7 years?

I don't know if this story is true or not. I don't trust either of our candidates when it comes to NAFTA and it will take more than a government official denying the story to prove it isn't true.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:23 PM
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12. Abrams on MSNBC reported the same thing, called the entire Canada story false
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:26 PM
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17. Are you seeing how Craig Crawford keeps attacking Obama? What an idiot.
I know he's a Clinton supporter, but shouldn't Abrams disclose that?
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:21 PM
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8. Kick
Thanks for posting this!

:kick:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:22 PM
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10. Michael Wilson is a corporate whore
And he loves him some NAFTA. Hell, he probably WROTE parts of it.

So of course, he wants to AVOID controversy about NAFTA.

He's probably SEETHING at the prospect that NAFTA could be re-opened between Canada and the US.

But he's a diplomat now and must keep his mouth shut.

That's all I have to say for now until I find out more.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:23 PM
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13. Dan Abrams just covered this story. Yup, it's FALSE. n/t
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InAbLuEsTaTe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:24 PM
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14. Thanks for straightening this out . . .
the disinformation from the Hillary side is getting a little more than I can stand.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:27 PM
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18. Thanks for posting this
I still think both Clinton and Obama campaigns should get the tv station to reveal the name(s) of the alleged staffers that called them. Shouldn't be an issue about protecting their sources because the sources are the ones wanting the names. It'll leave the news station with mucho egg on their faces when they come up with zip.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:32 PM
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21. I agree, I would like to see the source made public
They would be finished as far as any credibility goes.

I was very disappointed to think Obama would play Americans for fools in such a way...I am relieved it isn't true. CTV needs to clear their name and credibility in this.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 09:28 PM
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19. You Plant a false story, then you "Cite" the false story for your political ends -- well established
tactic.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:35 PM
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24. didn't Cheney become well versed in that tactic with Judith Miller?
I seem to recall something along those lines.....oh yeah, the aspens turn in the fall..


:)
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