Senator Clinton on 700 Club today

[Shrek]

From USA Today:

Hillary Rodham Clinton this morning makes her first ever appearance on Christian Broadcasting Network's The 700 Club, CBN correspondent and blogger David Brody tells us. David has repackaged some of the interview he had with her that he posted about on Sunday, for a piece that will air today during the self-described Christian news/magazine program.

Among the exchanges the Democratic presidential candidate and former first lady has with David is this:

Brody: "Are you misunderstood? And if you are, why?"

Clinton: "You know, I have to believe I am because time and time again, people -- who have been criticizing me in very harsh and personal terms -- once they have gotten to know me, have apologized to me and have even asked for my forgiveness."

Clinton also talks about her faith and the role it played in her life during "times of marital difficulty" (David's wording):

"I was well aware of everyone else's opinion and everyone else's second guessing, but my faith protected me and gave me the space and the time to really come to an understanding of what was right for me and my family," Clinton told David.

[jakem]

1. sad.

[Tom Rinaldo]

3. Why? n/t

[HereSince1628]

9. Really. I don't see why a candidate shouldn't try to communicate

with the lunatics.

[marshall]

35. Their vote counts just as much as anybody else's

At this point Hillary needs any vote she can get.

[HereSince1628]

40. And who knows? Maybe a few of them can be educated away from the edumakations

of the "Bush fYears"

[cali]

2. ugh. I was all over Obama when he did it and I won't cut her

any slack for doing the same thing.

[Tom Rinaldo]

6. I defended Obama reaching out to people of faith

Barack Obama IS a person of faith. So are over a hundred million Americans, including Jimmy Carter. HOW people of faith are reached out to is a very important detail in my book.

[KittyWampus]

10. it's important to give credit where's it due. Since she did this, hopefully it'll open some of her

other supporters' eyes.

[Shrek]

19. I believe you're right

If she reaches out and somehow manages to peel away a few votes from believers who are lukewarm about McCain, what possible downside could there be?

[NorthernSpy]

47. me, I actually have no problem with that...

But I will enjoy taunting Hillary supporters with this 700 Club business, because some of them have been so vicious about Obama's outreach to Christians.

[tishaLA]

72. I honestly don't understand people objecting to

the idea of reaching out to "people of faith," much as I despise that term. It is symptomatic of the Democratic Party's electoral myopia that it feels it can get along without it, or to surrender it because the "faith community" (another gawdawful term) seems more closely aligned with Robertson and Falwell than with Jim Wallis and Michael Lerner.

The fact of the matter is that if we choose to reach out to "people of faith," we have to do it with authenticity and not look like we are bowing to purely political pressures; people can tell all too easily. Sen Obama gave a great speech about faith and politics that articulated the problems and possibilities very well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5gcug51YvU

[eridani]

81. The 700 club is not about "faith"

It's a conservative Repub PAC disguised as a religion.

[goldcanyonaz]

8. I don't see her discussing abortion, could you point out that part for me?

I believe Obama stated that it was a prayerful choice or something to that extent.

[cali]

22. We don't know what she said yet

that's merely an exerpt. And sorry, I think Pat Robertson is a dangerous freak. I strongly criticized Obama for going on his show. You seem to think that Hillary shouldn't be criticized for the same thing. Forget that. Going on the 700 club just endorses Robertson and legitimizes his loony show.

[TheWraith]

70. I'm conflicted on this. I tend to agree, but at the same time there's reasons to do it.

The fact is that in my opinion, Robertson is a man who should be treated like the lunatic fringe. His participation in and endorsement of Falwell's comments after 9/11 alone should have earned him an exile from polite American society until and unless he completely repudiated said opinions.

On the other hand, there is the fact that his audience isn't necessarily all cut from the same cloth he is. Some are people who might not agree with his intolerance, but still find his religious message comforting or inspiring. It's important to reach out to those people and provide them an alternative message, one that says the Robertson types don't have a monopoly on faith and spirituality.

[eridani]

82. Intolerance is the whole substance of Robertson's "faith"

His followers are using religion as an excuse for their sociopathology.

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[Ichingcarpenter]

4. I hope she talks about Pat Robertson's Blood Diamonds and his hatred

Then she can talk about her 'faith'

[rodeodance]

56. gee, Obama did not talk about "Pat Robertson's Blood Diamonds and his hatred" before he talked of

faith.

[Ichingcarpenter]

60. I really don't care if she goes or not.. because it won't help

those people won't vote democratic anyway.


I criticized Obama also when he went on that fricking nazi station

[rodeodance]

62. good for you-thanks.

[JPZenger]

5. How about a trip to Jim Jones University?

I think Hillary's next appearance should be at Jim Jones University. I hear they are having an interesting program on the dangers of inter-racial dating.

[GigiMommy]

12. I think you mean "BOB" Jones University

Located in Greenville, South Carolina.

[Rockholm]

16. Same difference!

[TheCowsCameHome]

17. 'cept they don't serve as much KoolAid in their cafeteria

[rodeodance]

28. So, it is OK for Obama to show up on the 700 club but not Hillary?

[maseman]

71. Next up

Hillary Campaigns at Mental Ward

[GodlessBiker]

7. OK, we get it. Candidates will do what they have to to lure conservative Christians into the fold.

I guess they think there are potential Democratic 700 Club viewers.

[Breeze54]

11. They're doing a whole spot on men who cheat on their wives...

and then how they 'see the light' and how he ( a movie producer?) was not able to spend $30,000.00
a month on his bills and he was rolling quarters to buy food and gas :eyes: ... but so sign of HRC, although
I'm 30 minutes late to this fantastic and riveting program!! :sarcasm: Ugh...that idiot is on now. :puke:

[TheCowsCameHome]

13. Oh, for Chrissake

Talk about utter desperation.............

[goldcanyonaz]

15. You do know Obama appeared on the 700 club as well?

[BigDDem]

27. Oh, but it's different if BO does it.....

[SammyWinstonJack]

45. !!

:thumbsup: It's only okay if Obama does it. If Hillary does the exact same thing, it's desperation, don't you know that? :evilgrin:

[rodeodance]

55. that desperation cricket is getting pretty old from the obamacamp--but there is HOPE as

i see a few pathetic crickets lately------

[Breeze54]

18. YouTube - Barack Obama on The 700 Club

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L_M837Llcw

[rodeodance]

29. lot of hypocritical comments on this thread--

[NorthernSpy]

54. yeah -- from Hillary people who suddenly don't have a problem with this sort of thing...

... after all.


:eyes:

[bigtree]

14. my dear mother used to watch these shows

I've seen folks like Aaron Neville appear. Interesting.

[NorthernSpy]

50. TOO funny!

That's ALL you've got to say?

After Obama got shredded by Hillary supporters for this kind of outreach?

But when She does it, "oh well, my own dear mother used to watch those shows, they had some nice music..."


Figures.

[bigtree]

73. If you want to act as if only right-wingers watch those shows, you're deluding yourself

edit: That's what the reference to my dear mother was to indicate.

[bunnies]

20. Obama got ripped apart on DU for going on that show.

Something tells me the response to Clinton doing it will be different. :popcorn:

[jasmine621]

44. Yes, but he did it. How was he ripped apart? nt

[maddiejoan]

58. I had no problem with Obama appearing on 700 club

I had a problem with he said on 700 Club.

If Hillary says anything I find offensive, I'll call her on that too.

fair enough?

[1awake]

74. fair enough. n/t

[loveangelc]

21. WTF

[rodeodance]

25. Did you say that when Obama was on the 700 club? just curious

[rodeodance]

23. I believe her when she says that her faith has guided her and her family through toubled times.

Clinton also talks about her faith and the role it played in her life during "times of marital difficulty" (David's wording):

"I was well aware of everyone else's opinion and everyone else's second guessing, but my faith protected me and gave me the space and the time to really come to an understanding of what was right for me and my family," Clinton told David.

[CarbonDate]

24. Hey, if Trent Lott can go on BET...

...surely Hillary can go on the 700 Club?

[rodeodance]

30. as can Obama---see post upstream of U-tube of Obama appearance.

[TheUniverse]

26. Remember when Hillary's campaign was saying she couldn't appear on MSNBC?

Yes, Id say appearing on this trashing TV show kind of neglates any good will she deserved from that decision. Not defending Barack, because he appeared on it also. I guess seperation of church and state is too much to ask for this year.

[TechBear_Seattle]

31. Thank goodness she doesn't pander to the right

:eyes:

Added: And yes, I said and felt the exact same thing when Obama made a similar appearance. It is just so COMFORTING to watch both Democratic candidates shake hands and engage in polite chit-chat with the hard-core Talibangelicals who want to shred the Constitution and replace it with their particular flavor of theocracy. I feel all warm and fuzzy and... nope, it's nausea :puke:

[bigtree]

32. my mother wasn't right-wing, but she watched the programs every Sunday

. . . religiously.

[TechBear_Seattle]

33. There was a time when I watched it... er, religiously

The 15 minute news segment that starts the show wasn't bad, as long as you kept in mind the way they spun it. That didn't make Pat Robertson any less of a wanna-be Ayatollah.

[hendo]

41. pandering?

Maybe she is just trying to extend her base. Thats something politicians have to do if they want to win.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

34. Clinton is NOT making an appearence on the 700 Club....playing a clip of some other interview

does NOT mean she agreed to them airing it either

you are being willfully dishonest

[NorthernSpy]

42. she had an interview with David Brody of Pat Robertson's CBN...

Among the topics of discussion: "mah faiyyyyth", and the danger Barack Obama would pose to national security.


How's that for pandering to the right?


http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/327822.aspx


:eyes:

[K Gardner]

80. OMG.. here's the link.. and much more on Hillary's CBN Interview

at the site. Wow.

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/328569.aspx

[NightWatcher]

36. it's on NOW

[Renew Deal]

37. Why hasn't Obama asked the Queen for forgiveness yet?

:rofl:

[terrya]

38. This is sad.

I'm disappointed in her for doing this. "The 700 Club" and its founder, Pat Robertson, are blantantly hostile to the GLBT community. I'm disappointed that Hillary would appear on that bigoted piece of crap.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

39. Here's some quotes from Pat Robertson from the 700 Club

"They have kept us in submission because they have talked about separation of church and state. There is no such thing in the Constitution. It's a lie of the left, and we're not going to take it anymore." (PatRobertson, The State, Columbia, South Carolina, Nov. 14, 1993.)

"If anyone understood what Hindus really believe, there would be no doubt that they have no business administering government policies." (Pat Robertson)

"The Constitution of the United States, for instance, is a marvelous document for self-government by Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian and atheistic people they canuse it to destroy the very foundation of our society. " (Pat Robertson, The 700 Club, Dec. 30, 1981)

"When I said during my presidential bid that I would only bring Christians and Jews into the government, I hit a firestorm. `What do you mean?' the media challenged me. `You're not going to bring atheists into the government? How dare you maintain that those who believe in the Judeo-Christian values are better qualified to govern America than Hindus and Muslims?' My simple answer is, `Yes, they are.'" (Pat Robertson)

"There is nothing in the U.S. Constitution that sanctifies the separation of church and state." (Pat Robertson)

"The courts are merely a ruse, if you will, for humanist, atheistic educators to beat up on Christians." (Pat Robertson, The 700 Club, Oct. 2,1990)

"I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period." (Federal News Service, Sept. 11, 1992, quoting a Robertson newsletter.)

"Why are so many marriages falling apart? Why is the divorce rate so high? ...Why is there such a tragedy in marriage?...Now the basic answer to the basic
"(Robertson) chastised women legislators who support no-fault divorce laws that he says encourage men to split. 'Any woman who votes for no-fault divorce is like a turkey voting for Thanksgiving,' Robertson said, paraphrasing a conservative commentator." (The State-Record, Columbia, SC,June 28, 1992)

[Tatiana]

43. OK, who's ready to eat crow over a candidate pandering to the religious right????

It was so WRONG... such a BETRAYAL when another candidate reached out to religious constituents.

I'm going to say something (perhaps shocking) here. Hillary going on the 700 Club was FINE. That's what we SHOULD be doing. These people are voters too and it's about time we did something to reach out to them. We need to communicate with them. How else are they going to let go of their preconceived and deeply ingrained notions?

So Kudos to Hillary for finally doing something smart. Not that it's going to help her much at this point, but it was a smart thing to do.

[Egnever]

48. I agree

I think our candidates need to be carefull what they say when on such programs but I agree we need to be going on them more often. Dean got railed for it as well when he went on but we need to get on these outlets and make our case IMHO.

No Hill fan here but I dont have a problem with her going on there at all.

[Tatiana]

52. As one of those who "railed" at Dean for such outreach efforts

I have happily eaten my own crow. He was absolutely correct.

[eridani]

83. Dean said to talk to them on the common ground of health care and education

Not pander to their bigotry. Obama obviously doesn't have clean hands here either.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

59. I agree 100% nt

[IndianaGreen]

46. An appearance in Pat Robertson's show is as pathetic as it gets

And milking her "marital difficulty," using David Brody's characterization, is pure drama and bullshit rolled into one. Any self-respected woman would have kicked Bill's philandering ass on the street and divorced the sucker. Hillary chose to stay with Bill. Don't come now and tell us how hard it was because she chose to stay with a man that is perennially unfaithful. She made that bed, now she must lie on it.

[Egnever]

49. Well....

Jakie O stayed with JFK no? People loved her till her dying day.

[rodeodance]

53. seems then OBAMA is pathetic also---see this--Youtube of Obama on 700 Club.

Tue Feb-26-08 08:34 AM
Response to Reply #13
18. YouTube - Barack Obama on The 700 Club

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L_M837Llcw



An appearance in Pat Robertson's show is as pathetic as it gets
Posted by IndianaGreen

[whatchamacallit]

51. I'd have a lot more respect for them if they pandered to the 007 Club instead.

[From The Left]

57. HAHAHAHAHAHA!

She really has jumped the shark. Hillary Clinton is batshit crazy. They need to lock her up.

[maddiejoan]

61. But you come across as totally sane and in control

with your above post.

kk

[From The Left]

67. You're projecting Pumpkin.

Bump.

[rodeodance]

63. Was Obama "batshit crazy" and needs to be 'locked" up cause he went on the 700 CLUB?? by Your "logic

that would seem to be the case!

She really has jumped the shark. Hillary Clinton is batshit crazy. They need to lock her up.

[hendo]

64. Neither one

was crazy. They need support from more than just thier hardline backers. Any candidate needs to seek broad support if they are going to win an election.

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[rodeodance]

69. My mistake-----My post should have been directed at you.

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57. HAHAHAHAHAHA!

She really has jumped the shark. Hillary Clinton is batshit crazy. They need to lock her up

[tandot]

65. both of the Dem candidates should stay away from that.

http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/revpat.htm

"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."
-- Pat Robertson, interview with Molly Ivins, 1993.


Those bigoted idiots are not going to vote for either Democratic candidate anyways.

[Solon]

66. Oh for fuck's sake, why the fuck do either candidate have to coddle to assholes like this?

FUCK!!!

[Az_lefty]

75. sounds like her "I'm the great victim" routine...heard it before Hillary.

[CitizenRob]

76. Wow Pat Robertson must realize a Hillary nomination is the only way McCain can win.

[better tomorrow]

77. maybe she is trying....

to win a spot as VP on the Republican ticket when she has to concede.

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[Cheeseburger Walrus]

79. Turn off the monitor...

...and step into the other room for awhile.