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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:44 PM
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MSNBC and Operation Brokered Democratic Convention: Or No, Michelle Did Not REALLY Say That, Tweety
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 08:46 PM by McCamy Taylor
This is a really long journal. If you don't want to read the whole thing, at least go to the bottom and read the part after If this were a mystery, this would be the Who Dunnit Because MSNBC is murdering our democracy once again. If you like to figure out mysteries for yourself, read the whole thing.

I turned on MSNBC after being informed that it has switched from its “Anyone But Hillary” Campaign to an “Anyone But Obama” Campaign. This is actually part of a larger RNC strategy which I call “Brokered Democratic Convention.” I first wrote about it here at DU last fall. The plan is to keep any Democrat from getting enough delegates to win, so that there will be a big food fight in Denver, reminiscent of Chicago 1968. If successful, the Democratic Party will be so fractured, that part of the base will stay home in disgust this fall---and Karl Rove will redeem himself for his 2006 failure.

The day after Obama pulled ahead in delegates, Tweety began praising Hillary (whom he used to call a “she-devil”), praising her as a feisty underdog, asking how she was going to catch up. Since she isn’t catching up, it appears that GE has resorted to desperate measures—Obama bashing.

I tune into Tucker halfway through the show. Wow.

They are actually talking about the Brokered Democratic Convention!!!!

Nora O’Donnell says that Obama and his supporters are threatening a Chicago 1968 if anyone tries to use Superdelegates to take away Obama’s win. Nora O’Donnell is smiling gleefully while she says it. Richmond Mayor Doug Wilder is her guest. He says he hopes the “rights of the people” are respected. “Let the people speak.” Or else.

O’Donnell: “It is neck and neck” (smirk). Later repeats “Chaos at the convention” to wrap up.

Scroll title below the entire interview Chaos at the Convention? I have a theory that some news organizations believe that news scrolls are self fulfilling prophecies. Like voodoo dolls.

Next topic : Michelle Obama vs. Cindi McCain No, not mud wrestling. A war of words.

Michelle: “For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. It feels like hope is finally making a comeback”

Today Cindi McCain attacks her : “I am proud to be a part of my country.”

Pat Buchanan (well qualified to comment on Democratic primaries since he determined the outcome of the 1972 Democratic primary using dirty tricks for Dick Nixon) complains that Michelle was not proud of the Berlin Wall coming down and other events. Ignores the word “really”. “Is she not under some obligation to correct that.” “The Republicans will take that and beat her---and beat him to death with it.” Just like Buchanan is doing now. Polls have not closed in Wisconsin.

Solid ten minutes spent on Michelle bashing by Buchanan with the others saying “Ah, give Michelle a break.”

Next, some Huckabee bashing. Nora O’Donnell dismisses him as someone who can not win, who is just in it to build a base for 2012. Unlike CNN, MSNBC does not show any clips of Huckabee (which is the best way to win supporters for him). MSNBC never shows Huckabee giving a really inspirational speech (or McCain if they can help it) .

Finally, the almost all woman panel boosts Hillary’s chances by saying that if she wins she wins, if she loses she wins, the race is too close to call by pre-election polls (compare this to the bogus “Obama wins California by 20 points polls” they used on Monster Super Tuesday to try to dispirit her voters) and that the economy is the big issue. Wisconsin polls still open.

On to Hardball

Tweety: “If the headlines are “Hillary wins Wisconsin” what does it mean?”

Chuck Todd: Altogether now….If she wins, she wins, if she loses, she wins. Oh and let’s celebrate the fact that real Democrats like Hillary. Real beer drinking Democrats.

O’Donnell: Economy is the number one issue. “Obama has taken NAFTA and tried to wrap it around Hillary’s neck.” (That doesn’t sound very nice.)

Todd: “Has Obama said enough substance” that the blue collar voters are listening? (low blow)

O’Donnell: Hillary is the “I am the details oriented candidate, not the plagiarism candidate” with the economic plan. (lower blow)

Todd: Hillary is stronger on the economy. Obama is stronger on the war.

Next, an interview with “Bill Clinton’s 1992 campaign manager now supporting Obama” Yes, that is what they call him. Can you say “Obama is the same as Bill Clinton”? I knew you could.

“Bill Clinton’s 1992 campaign manager now supporting Obama”: Believes Obama can deliver capital to rural Ohio by creating 65% presidency.

Tweety: Asks “Is he a doer or is he a talker”? with a big screen image of Obama doing nothing but talking with a mike in hand. That had to have been planned.

Next order of business, Huckabee bashing.

Tweety He is pulling a Reagan 1976 so he can come back in win in 2012 (which means he could cost McCain the election this time the way Reagan did Ford in 1976)

Now, an interview with two Republicans, one a “we must win at all costs” Republican, the other a “values” Republican. Did someone bring a fire extinguisher?

Tweety: Is Huckabee doing anything good for the Republican Party?

First guest: Huckabee is getting ready for a run in 2012. “There is a rift” in the Democratic Party. That is their Achilles heel. “We shouldn’t have the same rift. He should get out.”

Second Guest: Social conservatives are concerned about John McCain. “40 million babies murdered since 1973” “McCain is not pro-life.” McCain has criticized Alito.

These are two angry guests. Where is the popcorn?

Tweety : What can McCain do?

First Guest: McCain can start to act like a conservative senator.

Second Guest: “Huckabee is standing up for the social conservative voters”.

First guest: “They are focusing on the wrong man!”

Second Guest: He could pick a sound socially conservative VP. (A fiscally conservative VP will not do.)

Looks like Tweety just negotiated a truce, but from the way these two are glaring at each other, I do not expect the cease fire to last. Oh man! Who needs a Brokered Democratic Convention when you have a Broken Republican Primary?

Now on to the final atrocity, the one that got the Obama supporters at DU so hot and bothered that they created a special thread.

Chris Tweety Mathews played the Michelle Obama quote without the “really”. As in
“This is the first time in my life I am proud of my country.” The bastards! That is a great big fat LIE ! They altered the speech. And now Buchanan is calling her un-American, and this time it makes sense.

Note, the deception would not be so obvious if they had not played and read the transcript over and over on Tucker and if guests had not stressed that the “really” changed the whole meaning.

Media Matters, are you watching?

Now, here is the MUST READ part. If this were a mystery, this would be the Who Dunnit.

Polls are still open in Wisconsin. Time for Countdown so that is it for this episode of Operation Brokered Democratic Convention. Somehow I can not see a bunch of Democratic voters changing their vote, because Michelle Obama was not proud when the Berlin Wall fell. However, as they keep pointing out, you can go register now in Wisconsin and they give you a ballot with Republicans and Democrats on it so if you are a Republican or Independent who figured out why Nora O’Donnell was grinning so hard when she talked about a “Convention in Chaos?” or if you want to punish Michelle for her lack of patriotism, you have plenty of time to get to the polls and edge Hillary’s vote higher.

And this is the network that used to praise Obama to the skies and call Hillary every kind of Bitch when she was ahead in the delegate count.

MSNBC, serving its parent company General Electric and its best client the Pentagon and their favorite son, John McCain proudly.

I am just going to have to insert an emoticon here or I will explode.

:nuke:

Where the hell is the FEC?
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reality based Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:52 PM
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1. Maybe David Shuster can straighten this out when he gets back on the air
after his suspension-- not. Welcome to "democracy" as run by your friendly corporate dominated media. I thought after the impeachment and the last two elections, we had learned about this.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:56 PM
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2. In my 30+ years of experience with WI voters ...
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 08:59 PM by sjdnb
they're too pragmatic to give a lot of credence to what Tweety or any pundits say. They look at their lives, their pocketbooks, their kids and grandkids, their personal belief systems and then vote for who they believe have the best plans to better their lives without compromising their principles.

IMO, I think some pay too much attention to the M$M (esp. cable) which, in turn, can serve to provide the M$M too much credence. For the most part, while Tweety and Co.; O'Reilly; and Anderson are blabbering on and on ... most avg. Americans are too busy doing laundry, attending PT conferences, feeding their kids or helping them with their homework, to follow any of them too closely.

On edit: BTW - I think Clinton's taken several 'low blows', too. They just want ratings.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:58 PM
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4. In other words old timer word, the vote their pocketbooks
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:01 PM
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5. hmmm, I think I indicated a bit more than that ..
beliefs, kids/grandkids futures ....
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:11 PM
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9. I didn't say it was going to work. A media atrocity is still an atrocity whether is achieves its
desired effect or not.

I think Pat Buchanan thought this one up. It too tricky for the other morons at MSNBC to come up with. However, editing Michelle Obama's words on Hardball was dangerous. If Obama was to go on and lose Wisconsin or have a narrow victory, Obama would then ask for Tweety's head on a platter. Only if the night turned out well would he ignore it (in order to let the whole issue slide).
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:17 PM
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19. Whether hopelessly transparent and doomed to failure or whether their
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 11:27 PM by higher class
poorly written tricks work - they are repugnantly stupid and worse than the USSR. If, as a parent, I had paid for their degree, I would be horrified. I feel pity for them - taking a super salary to do what they do? Pitiful failures and hucksters. You can tell, that they think they are clever.

Do not trust GE NBC MSNBC CBBC. They threw a little bait with Keith. He is genuine, but it all means we're being used and made to look stupid.

I regret having to be this cynical. I could just swear. This report has made me go over the top in anger.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:57 PM
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3. And as soon as the know the dem winner, they will be bashing him or her for MCCain
Watch my words, they will put Obama through the wringer, just getting started this week, and it is hard to tell what they will bring up on Clinton, remember the White Water deal, that was just a 100 thousand dollar deal gone wrong.
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griffi94 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:06 PM
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6. hell the FEC
GE probly wrote whatever laws there are regulating this kind of thing.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:06 PM
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7. Agreed. And Recommended.
The ONLY and I repeat, the ONLY candidate to receive consistently positive press on MSRNC has been John McCain. Even when McCain flip-flops, they call him a maverick. Torture, taxes, immigration... you name it, he's flip-flopped on it. Yet no one on MSRNC ever says (with the exception of Keith O.) that McCain will say anything to get elected. (Which he will and does.)

You want to talk about ambition and family connections? McCain wasn't half the man (or admiral) his father was. The people he served with have all indicated (pre-P.O.W. experience) that:

a) he had a temper
b) he was not a good leader
c) he wasn't particularly gifted or talented at anything; if fact they say he was barely mediocre

But yet, none of this information is mentioned in the M$M. This is the same man who has yet to read Alan Greenspan's book as an introductory primer on the American economy. He's admitted the knows nothing about economics, yet with Republicans who were concerned about the economy, he won that demographic. You can thank your M$M for not exposing that weakness in McCain's candidacy.

The money is made in the horse race advertisements, so all the networks have a vested interest in this being a long, close, drawn-out, drag-out battle. And what is really sad is when our candidates play into the system and get sucked into the tit-for-tat cesspool so the pundits can come on the television and tsk tsk their political smearing tactics.
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hay rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:24 PM
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15. family business
Both McCain's father and grandfather were admirals. He attended Annapolis because it was his birthright. He finished 894 out of 899 graduating in his class. He lost two planes in peacetime and got gigged for flying another one way too low (through power transmission lines in Spain).

He dumped his first wife who had been badly hurt in an automobile accident for Cindy, 18 years his junior and the daughter of a wealthy Arizona businessman. A year later he left the service and went to work for his father-in-law as Vice President of Public Relations. Through his father-in-law he met Charles Keating and Duke Tully, publisher of the Arizona Republic, among others. He parlayed his new connections and $167,000 that his wife loaned to his campaign to get elected to Congress.

What family connections?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:10 PM
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8. Another excellent analysis, McCamy. Thank you :-) K/r
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:21 PM
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10. This is just a warm up for the MSM's tricks after the conventions
I for one, am glad they are tipping their hand this early.

If Obama is as organized on the ground in Wisc. as he was in CA (I got at least half a dozen calls between Sat. and Election day, and there were 4-5 people at my polling place tracking who had voted), he has little to worry about from these blowhards.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:22 PM
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11. Tweety is a Reich-wing pig. Just acknowledge it
and move on
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tripitaka Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:52 PM
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35. i loved his scooter libby work
Pound on the story for a year and get Scooter convicted.

Then spend the next year screaming for Scooter to get a pardon.

Meanwhile ignore all other stories in favor of the Scooter Libby affair.

Oh and this guy is the co-chair of the "left-leaning" cable news outlet. The other chair is the guy Dick Cheney sees as his propaganda megaphone. The ombudsman is Pat Buchanan. And sorry Keith we all love you but no one takes you seriously, you're the Alan Colmes of MSNBC.

I want a national media outlet with Rachel Maddow at the head, I'm not sympatico with her politics but I wish MSNBC would throw everyone else away and give this woman 5 hours a day, she's the only person on MSNBC who ever makes sense.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 09:02 AM
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39. Agree - I'd like to see three shows back to back:
Maddow - Olbermann - Hartmann Not necessarily in that order.

3 to 6 hours of THIS bunch would be a juggernaut that would wipe out anything else in it's class.

:)
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:25 PM
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12. I was wondering what happened to the "really"...

they wouldn't really edit the video would they?!!! Has the CIA taken over MSNBC?
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:55 PM
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13. Correction to my post: There are two "proud" videos, one with "really" one without.
Here are the two videos of two different speeches from the same day, one with "really" one without.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGjR81pFJI4

The first, Fox version has no "really".


Here is a CSPAN video where the word "really" is obviously "blipped" or cut from the second video )you can sort of see her lips forming the words but no sound comes out) which may have been confusing to some people.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/18/michelle-obama-hasnt-been-proud-of-america-in-at-least-26-years/

Now, I can not say for certain that Tweety did not air the first, Fox News version rather than the more commonly referred to second version, since her clothes look very similar. However, this would be fishy in itself, since the second time that she uttered the modified phrase has to be considered the definitive phrase---i.e her explanation of what she meant the first time she said it (just in case any hard ass conservatives like Pat Buchanan were going to try to say that she meant to say that she was not proud of Al Gore's Nobel Prize). Every site that I have seen which discusses it, discusses the second occurrence. O'Donnell and Co, were discussing the second occurrence.

What this means is that Tweety may not have altered the speech. He may have slipped in the first rather than the second speech. Which is still a shame on him, but in this case he can claim incompetence rather than malevolence.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:10 AM
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23. He ran the version with /really/ blipped out
The 5 oclock show & the 7 oclock show. Nora O'Donnel (in Tucker's place) ran the first clip where Michell did not say really. The difference was obvious.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:14 PM
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14. Sorry, I can't work up any sympathy for Obama and his supporters.
Hillary supporters have been treated to this crap since day one. The posters here at DU quoted them endlessly and sanctioned their opinions as truth.

Now that think they have a wrap for Obama, (it has nothing to do with ratings), they are starting to show their hand.

I, for one, am going to enjoy this next stretch of the race.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:37 PM
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16. I believe Obama has won overwhelmingly so "Noron" O'Donnell's strategy didn't work.
But...I'm one of those Dems who would be happy to see this all go down to a brokered Convention. I'm old enough to remember what fun they used to be. Although it's still smoke and mirrors as the "Powers that Be" always decide..it makes it fun for us here on DU who try to "pretend" we have some kind of Democracy here in this Republic run by the "PTB."

BTW...the FEC is on hiatus because of that offensive person that the Repugs wanted to put in Charge of it who disenfranchised Black Voters. So...Dems refuse to put the Repug who would run the FEC in Charge...so whatever violations there are...just aren't going to be dealt with. It's a good thing, too because the Repugs would be crawling all over us with fake "violations."

Better to let it all go to August. There's still two candidates vying...in spite of what the Media and folks here and there want us to believe.

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hay rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:46 PM
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17. deleted
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 10:47 PM by hay rick
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hay rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 10:50 PM
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18. brokered convention pointer
Wrote about this in my journal yesterday. Some of us are not particularly afraid of the big, bad, back room brokering superdelegates.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:35 PM
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20. As I wrote yesterday, the benefit of the "Brokered Dem Convention" is it keeps the MSM
from launching a concerted attack on either Democratic candidate, because they have to keep both of them viable until Denver.

That means that attacks have to be subtle and non lethal and reversible, so that as one pulls ahead the other can get a boost.

If it begins to appear that Obama will win for certain, expect MSNBC, FOX, CNN, The Tribune, The WaPO and Bill Kristol's NYT to begin full scale attacks.
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 11:50 PM
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21. I can't believe this. I was there. I heard the whole speech. She was incredible!
Michelle Obama gave it up. She hit each and every note on the mark. Her delivery was warm, fluid, natural, passionate, genuine and totally honest. The speech may have been practiced and well-rehearsed, but it wasn't a performance. It was more like a gift to the audience. Afterwards, two guys from a Japanese TV network stuck a microphone in my face, and it was clear to me, they had been completely won over, as well.

So, what's the media focus? Some Gray Ops sound editor manufactures a single lie (blipping one word from the audio), and *that's* the whole story?

...After you signed off on this essay, Tweety and KO were talking to some empty suit from Texas, and Tweety asked the guy to "name one accomplishment of Barack Obama in the Senate." The guy fluffed it, couldn't come up with a precisely phrased 8 second summary of bullet points, and Tweety chewed his leg off. "That's a problem," he kept repeating. "What are his accomplishments, even his supporter can't name one." He was like a terrier gnawing at a drumstick.

The network called the Republican race over before they conceded Hillary's defeat, but Obama's landslide margin in Wisconsin is 3 or 4 percentage points above McCain's total.

And unlike CNN, MSNBC is only reporting the relative percentages in each race. Overlooking the fact that, with 85% of the vote in, Obama got 528, 654 Wisconsin votes, and McCain received 187,755.

Talk about Orwellian. Even CNN is rounding that off to a more modest, "2 to 1." They could have just as easily rounded up, it's really 2.8 to 1.

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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:05 AM
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22. CNN is less biased than MSNBC. They are mad at the Bush FCC and at McCain,
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 01:06 AM by McCamy Taylor
both over issues that have to do with Time-Warner's cable operations, so business as usual under a McCain presidency is not really in their best interest. I wouldn't expect them to go out on a limb for the Democrat, but you will not catch them sucking up to McCain for Pentagon contracts the way that GE will.

Al Gore was right. The corporate media is eeeeevil. No wonder they sank his presidency.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:15 AM
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24. That isn't true.
MSNBC has both percentages and raw vote numbers posted regularly. I'm looking at it on TIVO right now.
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:25 AM
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26. Maybe we were watching at different times
Later in the evening, I only saw percentages, no vote totals.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 03:23 AM
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25. Someone give Tweety a dictionary and mark the word "moderation" in it.
Tweety plays DA and repeatedly demands that some poor Texas Senator who is now supporting Obama list his "accomplishments as a U.S. Senators". Hillary's Tubbs-Jones gets in on the act, saying that her candidate has "lots of accomplishments".

For those who thought that Tweety could only be mean to women, he is perfectly capable of being rude to southerners who are too polite to snap back. He had better watch it. It wasn't too long ago in Texas when "he needed killin'" was still an acceptable defense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZTo0iGc_Dw



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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 11:32 AM
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27. Nora is back?
So glad I stopped Watching MSNBC.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:08 PM
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28. I watch so you won't have to (but KO is still pretty good)
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tripitaka Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:28 PM
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29. wait -- so the tape was edited, or 2 different speeches?
Edited on Wed Feb-20-08 12:33 PM by tripitaka
Initially I thought this story was stupid.

Then I thought it was sad and pathetic, as I saw the McCains do their little clumsy set piece.

Now it's getting downright creepy.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:46 PM
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30. See my post 13 for all the pertinent clips (I researched this so you wouldn't have to!)
As best I can tell, Michelle said a single sentence "I am proud of my country for the first time" early in the day and Fox News caught it on film. Later in the day, she issued a clarification that was off the cuff. In the longer, more detailed version she uses the phrase "I am really proud of my country." This is one that CSPAN aired without the "really" some places---I don't know if it was deliberate or was just a case of bad CSPAN feed. You can see her lips form the word "really" but you do not hear the word "really" in the third video I link. So, some people may have seen the "bad CSPAN link and assumed that in her definitive "proud" speech she did not say "really", but she really did say "really".

Not knowing about the Fox News version, I assumed at first that Tweety's short clip was the CSPAN version. Now, I think he probably used the FOX News version. Which is not a lie--it is just deceptive. It is like using a candidate's slip of the tongue and ignoring the fact that before press time he has already gone back and corrected it. It is slime ball journalism, intended to distort Michelle's meaning and set her up so that Pat Buchanan could provide the "conservative commentary" to the Democratic front runner's wife. Buchanan wanted to claim that Michelle is all Black all the time and the only thing she can take pride in is something to do with Black folks. Buchanan is a racist SOB who will be living his greatest glory--the Southern Strategy--until the day he dies.

Watching the Once and Future Nixon Dirty Tricks Master and Chris Tweety Matthews attempt to mind fuck the viewers of MSNBC has got to be one of the most disturbing things that you can see--esp. since their intention this time was to encourage voters to hurry to the polls in Wisconsin before it closed, register to vote and pull that lever for Hillary in order to give her the win/win or the loss/win. Watching Karl Rove do it is even worse. Luckily, everyone knows when he is doing it. But a lot of people are fooled by Buchanan and Tweety and their insane little giggles. Note that when KO fussed at Tweety later in the evening for being rude to the Texas State Senator, Tweety treated it like a joke. Like he was just having fun. Playing hard ball. "Just me and the boys, having a fun game of ball."
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tripitaka Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:31 PM
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33. i need for you to go work for CNN
Better yet, be the CEO of CNN.

It's continues to amaze me how amazed I am when the MSM behave like useless tools. One day I'm just going to have to admit that I'm the useless tool who keeps expecting something better. But it's inexcusable that the only way for me to get the straight info on this is a comment on a blog.
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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:26 PM
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37. Dubya-T-F !?!

  • Michelle Obama gave one of the greatest speeches I've ever heard. I was there, at the Pabst theater. Everyone in the room loved her.
  • National media attention is focused, instead, on one immediately qualified sentence in her speech.
  • Barack wins a landslide victory in the Wisconsin primary.
  • His vote total is close to a multiple of three, over McCain's.
  • All Tweety can fixate on is his 'straw man' verbal sparring with the empty suit from the Texas State Senate, the "name one single accomplishment" non-event.
  • K.O. reminds him, "this isn't 'Hardball', it's MSNBC's election night coverage of the vote."
  • For a minute, Tweety is non-plussed. (When the wave of cognitive dissonance briefly penetrates his fat cranium, for a minute, there was a look of complete surrender -- "oh yeah, and I'm supposed to be sharing a microphone with you -- instead of just ranting maniacally. I hate it when stuff like this happens.")
  • Obama wins, Keith wins, but
  • as usual,
  • ...it "doesn't count."
  • two days later, on CNN, I'm still watching CNN coverage of Rush Limbaugh's reaction to Michelle's "unpatriotic" speech.
  • a "serious gaffe," the commentators concur.


W.T.F...

(But let's not lose sight of the "bright side." McCain's wife, some years back, ripped off some prescription med's from some sort of funded government program, for her own personal use, and nobody remembers. If Michelle had come close to even approaching anything as sordid as that, she might have been making even more preposterous headlines, today.)

Which leads us back to Michelle's actual message, at the Pabst Theater, on Monday, about "continual moving of the goal posts," and the devastating effect all that has on ordinary Americans.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-21-08 01:31 PM
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40. Yep. Note that the MSNBC tried to say that if Hillary only lost by 5 points
that would make her the winner. In the days when Obama was trailing in delegates, we used to hear the reverse. Back then it was "If Obama wins, he wins. If Obama loses, he wins." And if Hillary won, it was "She only won, because her husband got a blow job."

Now, it is like "Obama only wins, because he is Jesus Christ resurrected. Of course the Savior will win. "

The goal post has been moved all the way to Jupiter I think.

I feel everyone's pain. I really do. And not just because of Edwards, my candidate. But remember, most of America does not even watch these silly fools. The people who watch them---like you and me--are much too savvy to be tricked by them. We only watch in order to catch them in their lies.

Fortunately, CNN, the nation's real source for 24 hour news, hates McCain with a passion because of his interference with cable (which is a big part of their parent company's business) so we can expect them to play fair as long as McCain is the GOP designate. And if McCain gets knocked out, then the Pentagon will stop telling GE/NBC whom to support.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:55 PM
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31. And then there is this from CNN's close captioning dept.....
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:02 PM
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32. But a close caption does not compare to the Obama said/Osama graphic on Hardball
Here is a link to Raw Story's coverage:

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/You_say_Obama_MSNBC_says_Osama_0218.html

Have the gloves come off? Will we see nonstop Obama/Osama, "Barack is a scary Black Muslim", "Lock up your daughters, There is a Black Man heading to the White House" coverage from the corporate media for the next eight months?

Will America stand for it?

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 01:40 PM
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34. Excellent - as always. About the "really" though - 2 speeches as this video shows
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:00 PM
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36. Yeah, I link those above in 13. However, the second is the definitive one. Those who use the first
are ignoring the fact that she issued her own explanatory statement in advance of evening news airtime in order to prevent people from making the wrong assumption. Since they went ahead and used the original one so that they could make the wrong assumption anyway without using the explanatory statement, that makes them asses.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 05:49 PM
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38. This is exactly why our two candidates have got to stop tearing each other apart and go after mclame
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