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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:16 PM
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CNN Panel spinning that this is over if Obama wins big...
Talking about HRCs campaign in the past tense.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:17 PM
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1. It's nice to have the MSM so we don't have to do any thinking ourselves. n/t
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:18 PM
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2. (C)linton (N)ews (N)etwork.
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 08:18 PM by Kittycat
She can't find a better bunch of supporters than the team over there. So if they're jumping ship - maybe it's a sign. :shrug:
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:24 PM
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14. Like who? Gloria Borger? Ha! Cafferty?!? No way!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:36 PM
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19. get a new-that one old and boring
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:39 PM
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21. Note to The damned.
You're on ignore :)
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:21 PM
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9. i believe most of the thinking was done in the previous 20+ states
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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:18 PM
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3. Spinning? There's some truth in that.
We'll know soon.
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:18 PM
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5. Good point...
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:18 PM
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4. I'm with Obama but this ain't true
It becomes harder and harder for HRC, true. But it's still doable for a bit yet.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:20 PM
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6. I don't think so.
She needs to win TX, OH and PA by more than 65%. Barring a terrorist attack or something equally dramatic, it's just not going to happen.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:26 PM
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16. I don't think it's true, either
I think that Sen Obama will have to continue to run hard and continue to win convincingly so he can make an argument for himself at the convention.
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Chasing Dreams Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:20 PM
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7. I am supporting Obama now, but no way that is true.
Obama will win Wisconsin by 10-15 points tonight. Hillary is still in this thing if she wins Ohio and Texas. The victory margin tonight has nothing to do with that.

Hillary will have plenty of money to compete in those states, and will go for broke. Now, if there is a split on March 4 then we can say it is over.
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:21 PM
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8. The thing is that there is no sign of her changing the story line...the thing appears to have swung.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:23 PM
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10. Hillary and Obama need to stay in through May.
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 08:23 PM by Flabbergasted
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:23 PM
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11. What about Hillary's number one cheerleader Bill Bennett?
What is he saying tonight?
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:24 PM
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12. With two head to head debates coming up it can not be over tonight
No matter what happens tonight the nation's attention will be focused on Hillary and Obama debating one on one twice. Even if people don't focus on the first debate as much, if they assume the race is "over", if Hillary does real well in that one people will tune in for the second debate.

Historically, this year and others, debates have changed election momentum. Even in multi party Democratic debates, the NH one shifted momentum away from Clinton to Obama while the SC one did the opposite.

Way too much can happen in two weeks to call this one over no matter what happens tonight.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:47 PM
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25. If it's a blowout in WI then the debate really won't matter much.
Obama will have the front-runner status and needs basically just to stay cool and fend off any attacks. He doesn't need to attack, just look Presidential. Hillary attacking him is a 2-edged sword for her, can easily backfire.

:dem:
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:24 PM
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13. And when we finally get to our candidate no matter which it is Hill or Obama, they will then throw
Edited on Tue Feb-19-08 08:24 PM by surfermaw
them under the wheels for the republican dumb Naval Academy grad, who finished next to last in his class, and probably got into the Naval Academy on his dad's coattail, sounds much like GWB, doesn't he?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:24 PM
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15. They are idiots, and they are betraying the Exit polling, I guess
Yes, it's so "over."

March 4th, much?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:30 PM
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17. They're just trying to save her
She should win by 20, so she just has to keep her margin of victory around 20 and it's over for Obama.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:33 PM
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18. Many on this forum have been telling us it was over after she won in New Hampshire.
She's never even had a legitimate win.

:cry:

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:38 PM
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20. after sup. tues media was saying nothing but a Feb. sweep for Obama. Gee so was DU!!
now she dying..
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:41 PM
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23. A 10-0 sweep is damaging whether you see it coming or not.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:10 PM
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27. my point that it was predicted.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:11 PM
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29. So were Mike Gravel's losses.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:40 PM
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22. If nobody hits 2025, to the convention we go.
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 08:44 PM
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24. The only person dumber than a Republican
is a Faux News or CNN talking head. This thing is far from over, and they know it.

Often the MSM unknowingly (or knowingly? :tinfoilhat: ) says things that become self-fulfilling prophecies. The uninformed hear this shit on CNN and assume that the talking heads know their ass from a hole in the ground, and that the race is over.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:05 PM
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26. it ain't over at all
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:11 PM
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28. they are walking over her grave a long time ago and she is still standing. They can't grasp that.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:15 PM
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31. hahah yup but they friggin know that it ain't over until the fat lady sings!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 09:12 PM
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30. I'm watching CNN and I haven't gotten that at all.
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