Pressure's on Mass. (undemocratic) superdelegates

[ckramer]

Source: gb

"Raymond Jordan, this is Bill Clinton, and I'm calling you because we're calling all the superdelegates," Jordan said, recalling the conversation. A week later, Jordan received a phone call from Senator Hillary Clinton, but it was too late. He had decided to support her rival, Senator Barack Obama.


According to Democratic Party rules, superdelegates are under no obligation to follow the will of the voters, as history has shown.


Read more: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/13/pressures_on_mass_superdelegates/

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Superdelegates should vote that way people voted!

Forget about Bill Clinton. Listening to the voice of the people is the right thing to do.

[Selatius]

1. My advice to the DNC is to get rid of the fucking super delegate mechanism altogether.

The winner should be determined by the base of the party. It's simply more democratic that way. Unless, of course, the leadership of the party "knows best."

[Dr. Strange]

2. I agree...

although I suppose that raises the question of "Why have superdelegates?"

[gateley]

9. OT -- What are those two things that look like breasts amidst your

collection of hearts?

Thanks!

[Dr. Strange]

11. They're breasts.

It's my attempt to tease temeah in the Lounge. (He's the Lounge nipple expert.)

[meegbear]

3. Hillary won a mojority of the votes in Massachusetts

So she should get a majority of them correct?

[Barb in Atl]

7. Absolutely...

But that also means that my idiotic congressional rep should go for Obama (as his congressional district went to him). The same with Rep. John Lewis.

But if the super delegates are just going to follow the will of the voters, it calls into question WHY we have super delegates, doesn't it?

If, when the primary is all done and one nominee has more delegates (even so few as <10), they should get the nod, Obama or Clinton. This nonsense where the super d's can make the final decision is nonsense and is going to really piss off a lot of people.

[totodeinhere]

10. Yes, and Obama should get the supers from the states has has carried.

[Debi]

12. Paging Patty Murray, Paging Maria Cantwell.....

:eyes:

[meegbear]

14. Exactly!

[orleans]

4. i say fuck all superdelegates. majority rules. period. not

majority of superdelegates rule.

i don't want someone (who votes twice, btw) to have one of the votes weigh in at about 9500 times more than my one vote.

what crap.

[WatchWhatISay]

Anybody know what the process would be to change this?

Superdelegates were instituted in order to make sure that those Dems who voted in the primaries, who are believed to be more liberal than the rest of the country, wouldn't elect someone that the party bosses believed to be "unelectable" in the Genereal Election.

This kind of thinking is undemocratic and outdated and needs to be jettisoned. This is something we here at DU should make a project - finding out how to get rid of this scheme.

[WatchWhatISay]

6. Anybody know what the process would be to change this?

Superdelegates were instituted in order to make sure that those Dems who voted in the primaries, who are believed to be more liberal than the rest of the country, wouldn't elect someone that the party bosses believed to be "unelectable" in the Genereal Election.

This kind of thinking is undemocratic and outdated and needs to be jettisoned. This is something we here at DU should make a project - finding out how to get rid of this scheme.

[orleans]

15. i don't know what the process is

randi rhodes had articles and a link w/phone number to the dnc

it sounds like dean could snap his fingers and make the supers vote to represent their constituency--only problem w/that is not all the supers represent people--

and whoever has the most delegates wins--not whoever gets that top number that is unattainable in this particular race (because they are so close!)

[Lone_Star_Dem]

5. delete

[FATCATs]

8. Randy R was talking about this yesterday

It takes the democracy out of democrat

[Bill McBlueState]

13. then why even have superdelegates?

It's silly to require superdelegates to vote a certain way. It makes it pointless to even have superdelegates. It would make more sense to just get rid of them.

[TexasObserver]

16. The Clintons have lost their bargaining power with the superDs. No win, no plums to hand out.

[goldcanyonaz]

17. Hillary won Massachusetts, so what's your point?