Kerry coming to Wisconsin to campaign for Obama

[zulchzulu]

I just heard word... probably this weekend...stay tuned.

Kerry bashers can go Cheney themselves. :hi:

[harun]

1. Awesome, Kerry is popular there, wish Feingold would endorse

him there as well.

[PresidentObama]

2. It's always great to see Senator Kerry speak. I'm jealous of the good people of WI.

[rodeodance]

50. yup--

[globalvillage]

51. I had to donate again ...

just to give you a heart.

GObama!

[blm]

3. Kerry has been advising Obama for some time now - we should've known that when

Marvin popped up as Obama's body man.

Heh - gee, that campaign machine works much better without the Clinton loyalists there undermining it at every turn.

Take pictures, and say hello to Marvin from us Kerry folks.

[PresidentObama]

5. I saw that. It's great to see Marvin on the campaign trail.

Seems to me Marvin loves to be on the trail.

I miss that big guy :)

[blm]

11. Obama couldn't have gotten a sharper guy to protect him.

Heh - running with Kerry is tough when he had three decades worth of sinister characters targeting him.

[zulchzulu]

6. I saw Marvin last night...

The dude could be the next James Bond. He cut his hair and looks trim. I'll post some vid at some point. I'm swamped today.

[globalvillage]

44. Oh, cool. Please post it.

Marvin :loveya:

[MagickMuffin]

54. Well Marvin did take on Bill'o

at one of the rallies Bill'o showed up at to try and get an "interview", yeah right.

[Divernan]

4. Wisc. Governor Jim Doyle campaigning for Obama

Here's some info from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinal blog on line, "All Politics".

"Dan Keistikow, Dem. Gov. Jim Doyle's former communications director, returned to Wisconsin politics on Feb. 4th, as chief spokesman for the Wisconsin campaign of presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama. Leistikow joined the campaign of former president candidate John Edwards last April and worked in Iowa, New Hampshire and the South. In a visit to state capitol Madison, he said he expects Doy le to play a key leadership role in the Obama campaign before the Feb. 19th primary. Doyle was in Kansas campaigning for Obama earlier this month."

More from this blog, today.
The Rundown: Obama starts wave of candidate visits
By Patrick Marley
Wednesday, Feb 13 2008, 11:11 AM
After wins in three states, Democrat Barack Obama roared into Madison Tuesday, sparking the beginning for visits from all the presidential candidates. Obama is in Janesville, Waukesha and Racine today, and Republican Mike Huckabee is in Waukesha tonight.

[MadBadger]

7. Is he coming to Madtown?

[zulchzulu]

9. I think so... I'll update as I hear more... n/t

[MadBadger]

10. K...Huck's comin tomorrow.

[zulchzulu]

19. Bill will be here too...some small venue...very controlled...

I'd like to see him as well.

[MadBadger]

21. Hucks gonna be at the Concourse. Where will Bill be?

[LittleClarkie]

25. I hope it's more than Mad town

I wanna see him again if I can.

[AtomicKitten]

8. Got get 'em, John.

and thanks

[oasis]

12. Great. Let's see if Kerry campaigns with Obama in Ohio.(eom)

[blm]

13. He will. Will Carville, the Ohio Dem voter saboteur, be there for Hillary?

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward

[oasis]

14. Carville never promised us "an army of lawyers" who would fight 'till the bitter end.

It's time you quit making excuses for JK's 2004 "fire-in-the belly deficit".

[blm]

15. DNC reported to Kerry there was an army of lawyers ready to fight. DNC had no

intention of there being any evidence for Kerry to make that fight, did they?

Why pretend what Carville did was right in your need to smear Kerry?

Did Kerry not risk his life and career more times than any other Dem lawmaker the last 20 years to side with our right to open government that is accountable to the people?

Did OTHER Dems not show respect for those efforts as they swept those matters under the rug for the corrupt?

Sense of proportion, oasis.

[oasis]

16. Kerry accomplishments before election 2004 were commendable. He then

folded his tent and went quietly into the night where he should have remained.

I worked extremely hard for Kerry in my state and was sorely disappointed at the nation's loss on election night.

I'm finally over that now.

[blm]

17. Should've remained? So you didn't WANT Downing Street Memos inquiry? You didn't

WANT Alito filibustered?


You didn't WANT an Iraq withdrawal plan?

When Kerry had his other accomplishments for this nation and worked for years to uncover serious corruption, who undermined those efforts and sided with protecting the secrecy and privilege of BushInc and Jackson Stephens, the man who bankrolled Clinton's political career and primary campaign?

The same people who undermined Kerry's campaign and SABOTAGED Dem voters in Ohio to assure Kerry would never have the number of votes needed to prevail.

[oasis]

22. Kerry did NOT become president. Alito IS on the Supreme Court. As for

the Downing Street Memo/Minutes, that's not going anywhere fast.

Kerry seems to have a bad case of "seconditis".

[blm]

24. When powerful Democrats are supporting BushInc what do you expect? You think

Clinton would have been able to become president in 92 without a few honest Democrats in congress and senate who pounded Bush1 every day throughout his term and kept exposing his links to criminal operations?

No. Without Kerry there'd never have been any IranContra or BCCI investigations AT ALL.

In 2004 Kerry had the last Dem president going on a 3 week book tour and defending Bush in almost every broadcast interview. And Clinton loyalists undermining his campaign at crucial points, including the security of the election process.

Big difference.

BTW - did you like the way Hillary led on those matters in the senate? Oh yeah - she was against filibuster and spoke against Iraq withdrawal in 2006.

[beachmom]

30. The army of lawyers told him there was no fraud late election night.

The bad stuff didn't come out until after he had conceded, and even then, there was nothing that he could use to overturn the election in a court of law.

[LittleClarkie]

36. Oh, did something happen in Ohio in 2004?

I have no short term memory and I seem to have forgotten the other 10,000 times it was mentioned.

It's sort of Pavlovian, isn't it?

I say Kerry, some say Ohio. No matter what the topic is otherwise. I'd be interested to see if it still happens 20 years from now

"Kerry".... "OHIO!"

Maybe if there hadn't been people working against him that he thought were on his side, things might have been different.

But he wasn't going to come out without solid, take it to court evidence. That just wasn't him.

He was ready for what happened to Gore. He wasn't ready for what happened to him. A new and different Republican fubar. With a Martian in the center, I would reckon.

[zulchzulu]

18. I hope to run into Carville in Wisconsin with a video camera

I'm going to ask him about his little story in Woodward's "State Of Denial". I want him to run as fast as he can away from me... he is a traitor.

[blm]

20. Someone from JK forum DID ask Carville about it and he said he doesn't see anything

wrong with what he did.

I guess they really do consider politics as war - and that all is fair in war.

[LittleClarkie]

26. Coast to Coast would be interested in that video

They'd have evidence of life on Mars then.

[LittleClarkie]

23. Dude, if you want this thread to stay put, you might wanna take out the "Cheney" part

just sayin'.

The announcement is more important.

[shayes51]

27. Is that the same Kerry who did not endorse Edwards?

[blm]

28. Edwards turned on Kerry to assert his own campaign. He made that choice.

He needed Kerry to bear the blame for 2004, because McAuliffe and DNC and left media certainly weren't going to own up to their failures. Blaming Kerry was easy and there was glory to be gained from pushing the internet myth that Edwards was fighting Kerry over Ohio. (Never happened.)

Obama WAS listening to Kerry and taking Kerry's advice and help on his campaign, including tapping into Kerry's existing network.

Now wouldn't you agree that Obama made the better move here?

[NJSecularist]

33. Is that the same Edwards who was a maverick during Kerry's 2004 GE run?

Yes it is.

Edwards was a terrible VP candidate.

[Viking12]

35. Gore didn't endorse Lieberman in the 2004 primaries

What's your point? Was Gore wrong too?

[shayes51]

43. Liebernan wasn't the same person in 2004 as

he appeared to be in 2000. My point is that John and Elizabeth campaigned tirelessly for the ticket in 2004, and they deserved better than the Kerry betrayal. He turned out to be a flip-flopper after all.

[blm]

57. No - you are wrong. Edwards needed to assert his own campaign and chose an easy route

when he sat down with McAuliffe for his book and he allowed all blame to be placed on Kerry.

That diverted all attention and blame from the pisspoor condition of Dem party infrastructure where millions of votes were lost to the RNC's tactics.

Edwards saw a chance to play up the internet myth that had some showdown between Edwards and Kerry to fight in Ohio. That didn't happen. Carville sabotaged Ohio voters on election.

Are you PROUD of what Carville did in 2004 to Ohio voters and every Dem voter?

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward

[catgirl]

42. Why should he have endorsed Edwards?

He endorsed the best person.

[beachmom]

29. Kerry has been a wonderful, tireless surrogate for Obama.

And, really, he is running for re-election to the Senate so there is nothing specific "in it" for him. This is so the country goes in the right direction.

Kerry will always and forever be a real patriot.

[Cha]

31. I know you're Happy being

such a great supporter of Kerry and now Obama!~ Didn't Kerry have an amazing rally in Wisconsin in 2004?

[beachmom]

34. Oh, you mean that Madison one with Bruce Springsteen?

That still was the largest campaign gathering of people in, I think, American history. Obama will no doubt surpass that in a general election in 2008.

[rodeodance]

49. check my sigline

[MagickMuffin]

53. Oh yeah, girlfriend that would be the ONE

:loveya:

[beachmom]

59. Thanks for the pics, MagickMuffin. Just wonderful. nt

[MagickMuffin]

60. I remember when C-SPAN covered the event, I was soooooo excited

and I'm not a big Boss fan, but seeing him out there with John, and putting his career on the line brought tears to my eyes.

Every rally covered by C-SPAN I watched and couldn't believe how many people showed up.

I have pics of almost all the rallies. When people say John is a loser or he's boring I always wonder how they came to that conclusion.

Maybe it's because John knows how to talk in complete paragraphs and not sound bytes.

A lot of John's message is being transferred to Barack.

Perhaps the MSM's coverage had something to do with it.

I hope the two of them campaign in Fort Worth together, since John didn't campaign here. Not sure if Teddy would want to though, since Fort Worth is the last night JFK spent the last night of his life. JFK never should've gone to Big D.:cry:

[Fabio]

39. Good for him.

He really believes in going out and talking to folks.

[Cha]

41. Yeah, Kerry's a good guy

and we're fortunate to have him in our Senate and he wouldn't have made an excellent president.

[TheDonkey]

32. Go JK! Go Obama! Go WI!

[rodeodance]

48. GO WI, GOMAMA,~~

[sniffa]

37. Take good care of our Senator

:hi:

He's pretty good in person too.

[BigDDem]

38. Is he going to give BO lessons on how to handle the

swiftboating?

:rofl:

[NJSecularist]

40. More smears from the Hillbots.

When will they ever get tired of smearing a great Democrat? :thumbsdown:

[blm]

58. They just need to pretend it was swifts when it was Carville who sabotaged Ohio

Dem voters and all of us.


http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/oct/07/did_carville_tip_bush_off_to_kerry_strategy_woodward

[rodeodance]

45. Glad he is coming. but do hope not.

[shayes51]

46. good one

[beachmom]

52. I think Clinton people ought to shut up about that. They were gleeful

when Kerry lost, and AWOL when he needed surrogate help. You best play it sly as to how a Kerry victory would have spoiled Hillary2008 plans.

[Unbowed]

55. They didn't exactly go out of their way to support Kerry, did they?

It was the bare minimum of support a former Dem Prez and First Lady could give the party's nominee. But go out of their way...that wasn't gonna happen. We all knew that HRC was running in '08 even before Kerry had the nomination. Kerry simply wasn't supposed to win. Too bad nobody told Kerry that. He almost did win. That would have spoiled quite a few plans, eh?

[LittleClarkie]

56. Indeed. Which is why I've always suspected the Hillary people who infused his campaign

Carville seems to have done a bit of sabotage. And I'd heard rumors that he'd been double crossed in 2004 by people he thought were on his side in Ohio.

Wasn't supposed to win. Almost did. I still remember the excitement right after the first debate when people realized that he could possibly win. Suddenly you couldn't get a seat in Kerry HQ.

[Unbowed]

65. I agree.

There were dirty dealings there. I can't say for sure who, but they know who they are. Rovian Democrats. Disgusting.

The shame of it was that it happened to one of the most honorable politicians in America. Kerry is a good man. But what bothers me most is what was done to our country. If Kerry hadn't been brought down, the war would have been ended long ago and much of the disaster from Katrina could have been averted. No way would a President Kerry have fiddled while the levies broke. And the Supreme Court. Those buzzards Bush put in place are there for life. When I think about all the damage that has been done, it's hard to accept that anyone in our party would put personal ambition over the welfare of the country. If some did, they now have to live with that. If there is an afterlife, I hope they find a special place in Hell.

[thoughtcrime1984]

62. Wow, you might want to STFU

The Clintons will sink any Democrat to make Hillary's Presidential dream come true. Wake up people!!!

I'M IN IT TO WIN IT!!!

[tokenlib]

47. Kerry can give a good speech...

I saw him in 2004 and thought he was fine!!

[yeswecan08]

61. All Americans owe Senator Kerry a big debt for discovering and introducing Obama

[blm]

64. And his help the past year turning over much of his network so Obama could

have a ground game in ALL states.

Obama and Kerry played this pretty quietly. Smart.

[JI7]

63. hope you get some good pics