The worst is over for Hillary, now it's time for the comeback!

[PresidentObama]

Ohio and Texas!!

Hillary Clinton is down, but certainly not out.

Heads up Clinton supporters. Obama hasn't won anything yet, and let's make sure he goes back to the United States Senate to serve the American people while Hillary heads to the White House.

I certainly respect Senator Obama, but it's time for President Clinton!!

You guys ready for a good fight?

[kid a]

1. one more bump - WI

[PresidentObama]

4. I'm sure WI will be closer than some think, and Hillary will pick up delegates.

[RiverStone]

44. Hawaii makes two...

[Purveyor]

2. With Obama's anti-NAFTA position, there isn't a hope in hell that Hillary can win Ohio. eom

[PresidentObama]

3. Care to back that claim up with poll numbers? Since DUers seem to love polls!

[rodeodance]

70. another Hit and Rum Obamacamper.

[OzarkDem]

6. With Obama's bad record on predatory lending

and protecting nuclear power plants from inspections, he will do very poorly here. Ohio has had big problems with both, only here they were caused by Republicans. Obama will be viewed as similar to GOP.

[AX10]

14. All True.

[jackson_dem]

28. Obama has the same position as Hillary on NAFTA

Hillary will review all trade agreements. Obama will only review NAFTA. She will also have a trade time-out, something labor has long wanted. Hillary>Obama on trade.

[thevoiceofreason]

35. Here's a Texas factor that no one has mentioned

In Texas, in order to accomodate the NAFTA travesty, they are talking about installing the "Trans-Texas Corridor," a freeway that will cross the state. A couple of issues: to build the highway, the state government has agreed to hand over the ownership and running of this road to highway contractor big-givers and cronies -- in other words, private contractors are slated to be given a right of eminent domain.

Second, the trucks from Mexico will have a vastly unfair advantage over US truckers (read: Teamsters) because the mexican truckers will not have to follow or abide by US safety or inspection laws. Suits against the mexican nationals (for, let's say, killing people with faulty equipment) will be difficult if not preempted.

Net net: folks in Texas hate the corridor being pushed by governor goodhair. Barack being against NAFTA will resonate very well with the many many rural and working class Texans hurt by it.

[tammywammy]

46. You know, I hadn't even thought of the Trans Texas Corridor

I don't know anyone, republican or democrat, that supports that travesty that Perry has brought us. :grr:

[Life Long Dem]

5. Wasn't her comeback before NH?

[Hepburn]

23. I thought the big date for Hillary to "put it away" was Super Tuesday?

Didn't work out that way....

[rodeodance]

52. ha ha--stop listening to the RW and the media. They conjured that meme up just for you and you bite

[Hepburn]

72. So....you think I am stupid. Lovely post....NOT!!

What makes YOU think YOU know so much?

[berner59]

7. I hope Hillary still fights...

but I have to say...after listening to her & Obama, then McCain...it doesn't matter which one faces him...the Dems will win!!! I think Hillary is more experienced and would make a GREAT president but I certainly won't be upset with a President Obama...he just needs to surround himself with experienced advisors/cabinet members...like Kennedy did...like Clinton did...

[Joe the Revelator]

8. Her aides are privately saying that she can't go to the convention with more pledged delegates

At this point, unless Obama gets single digits in OH and Texas,she's done.

[PresidentObama]

13. Keep dreaming n/t

[Joe the Revelator]

16. It was reported on MSNBC

Do the math.

[ruggerson]

24. rofl

[Joe the Revelator]

30. ah, so you're whistling past the graveyard

Good to know.

[rodeodance]

60. What graveyard would that be??

[bilgewaterbill]

20. Were they saying that privately to you or do you have a link to that info?

[Joe the Revelator]

22. Howard Fineman reported it on MSNBC

There were a number of threads on it.

[bilgewaterbill]

34. Depending on whose calculations you use,

it's entirely possible that Hillary needs-

a) Obama to tank to single digits in TX, OH & PA (Not gonna happen)
b) Some info to come out that would swing the "Supers" to her (Novak said she's got something)
c) FL and MI to be seated @ the convention w/ full voting rights (Not gonna happen)
d) All of the above. (Not gonna happen)

So IMHO the question is- Does Hillary have something on Obama she's been holding in reserve?

[rodeodance]

62. Novak has been saying that for months. --I do not believe him. After this election, its retirement.

[XemaSab]

66. I think if she had something she would have busted it out by now

Winning Iowa was plan A. Didn't happen.

New Hampshire and Nevada were plan B, part 1, and that worked out pretty good.

Super Tuesday was plan B, part 2, and that did pretty good but not terrific.

If she had an ace in the hole, she should have busted it out before Louisiana, Washington, and Nebraska, and DEFINITELY before Maine.

Even winning Maine would have slowed down the Obama train a bit. :shrug:

[HeraldSquare212]

9. It'll be interesting to watch the polls in the next week or so.

If they swing hard, I think she may just drop out. I'm not sure she'd want to outright lose.

[OzarkDem]

12. Here's the latest

http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/02/03/vote.html?adsec=politics&sid=101

[HeraldSquare212]

17. Ouch - I thought another poll had it closer than that.

I thought Obama was down in Ohio by maybe 17% or so.

[XemaSab]

69. That poll still has 18% going for Edwards...

It's clearly an old poll, and the ground may have shifted a LOT since then. It can also shift a LOT in the next three weeks. :)

[Cant trust em]

10. This thing is a long way from sewn up

It's going to be a long couple of weeks until Texas/Ohio.

[alcibiades_mystery]

11. YAAAAAAAAAAARGH

:evilgrin:

[Cooley Hurd]

15. K&R - I love a good fight!

:D:hi::thumbsup:

[PresidentObama]

21. Me too. I like a good fight, and a good horserace.

:)

[Rosa Luxemburg]

18. she will have to sweep TX and Ohio

[Thrill]

19. Don't count Obama out . He's a fighter

[rodeodance]

51. 50 treads about hills; demise. asking her to step aside-so so many of them.

[IndieLeft]

25. Yeah... Ask Guliani how that worked out for him.

[goodgd_yall]

26. It's not over yet!

I'm looking forward to wins in the BIG states: Ohio, Texas, and Pennsylvania.

[earthside]

Where did the $100 million go?

I just heard that on CNN.

One of the pundits said that she had been talking to big Clinton(s) donors and they are all asking where did the $100 million campaign treasury go?

Clinton(s) cannot win Texas and Ohio if she doesn't have the big money to buy TV.

We know that Obama has at least $38 million and probably more by now to spend in those states.

My hunch is that the fat lady maybe humming now for the Clinton(s) campaign.

[stillrockin]

27. you're kidding, right?

[rodeodance]

59. BOO

[Tweed]

29. There are two states; one is called Wisconsin, the other Hawaii

I can introduce you if you would like. On second thought if you support Hillary, you better just focus on March 4.

[PresidentObama]

32. I said the worst is over, and it is. Hillary will pick up delegates in WI.

And onto Ohio, Texas.

And then after that, PA.

[Tweed]

37. Hillary picked up delegates tonight, are you saying she'll at least get 40% in WI?

I wouldn't be so sure.

If you take a look at the polls below, you can see that Clinton and Obama were consistently around 38% to 25% even in a crowded field. When the field dispersed, Hillary had a nice bounce up to 50, but the most recent poll has her back down to 39%. Add in the fact that the Republican race is essentially over and Wisconsin is an open primary and I could see her giving a very Virginiaesque performance.

Then there is Hawaii which is somewhat of a 'home state' for Obama. Enough said. She could go lower still

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/wisconsin.html

Public Policy Polling
Date: 2/11
Wisconsin
Added: 2/13/08
Est. MoE = 3.9%
Barack Obama 50%
Hillary Clinton 39%
Unsure 10%
Source


American Research Group
Date: 2/6-7
Wisconsin
Added: 2/9/08
Est. MoE = 4.0%
Hillary Clinton 50%
Barack Obama 41%
Unsure 8%
Other 1%
Source


Strategic Vision
Mid-date: 12/8/2007
Wisconsin
w/o Al Gore
Added: 12/13/07
Est. MoE = 4.7%
Hillary Clinton 36%
Barack Obama 29%
John Edwards 12%
Bill Richardson 6%
Joe Biden 5%
Dennis Kucinich 1%
Chris Dodd 1%
Unsure 10%
Source


University of Wisconsin Badger Poll
Mid-date: 12/1/2007
Wisconsin
w/o Al Gore
Added: 12/11/07
Est. MoE = 7.2%
Hillary Clinton 39%
Barack Obama 26%
John Edwards 15%
Bill Richardson 4%
Dennis Kucinich 3%
Joe Biden 2%
Unsure 6%
Other 5%
Source


St. Norbert College/Wisconsin Public Radio Wisconsin Survey
Mid-date: 11/4/2007
Wisconsin
w/o Al Gore
Added: 11/15/07
Est. MoE = 6.9%
Hillary Clinton 43%
Barack Obama 25%
John Edwards 15%
Bill Richardson 2%
Dennis Kucinich 2%
Joe Biden 1%
Chris Dodd 1%
Unsure 1%
Other 1%
Source


Strategic Vision
Mid-date: 9/15/2007
Wisconsin
w/o Al Gore
Est. MoE = 4.9%
Hillary Clinton 44%
Barack Obama 22%
John Edwards 11%
Bill Richardson 7%
Joe Biden 3%
Dennis Kucinich 1%
Chris Dodd 1%
Unsure 11%
Source


Strategic Vision
Mid-date: 7/14/2007
Wisconsin
w/o Al Gore
Est. MoE = 4.8%
Hillary Clinton 40%
Barack Obama 24%
John Edwards 14%
Bill Richardson 6%
Joe Biden 3%
Dennis Kucinich 1%
Chris Dodd 1%
Unsure 11%
Source


Strategic Vision
Mid-date: 5/5/2007
Wisconsin
w/o Al Gore
Est. MoE = 4.8%
Hillary Clinton 38%
Barack Obama 25%
John Edwards 17%
Joe Biden 6%
Bill Richardson 2%
Dennis Kucinich 1%
Chris Dodd 1%
Unsure 10%

[rodeodance]

49. i WILL BE working the phones tomorrow--put out signs last weekend.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

31. I am ready.

And Hillary Clinton is definitely not out of the race. I worry about the certainty of victory expressed by my fellow Obama supporters. Clinton is formidable and it will be a very hard fought race from here on out.

[PresidentObama]

38. Thanks for your honesty, and may the best candidate win n/t

[Window]

53. I am with you on that.

Not good to be cocky. Hillary is a scrapper.



Peace:thumbsup:

[thevoiceofreason]

33. It's only a flesh wound.

[Quixote1818]

36. She is going to lose in Wisconsin and Hawaii first. nt

[rodeodance]

55. hil wil be in WI Sat, Bill thurs and chelcea last two days. Health ads running

[emilyg]

39. Go Hillary!!!

[TheWraith]

40. Actually, she is out. Aides admitting that she isn't likely to pull even, so they'll try to steal it

with the superdelegates. Per Howard Fineman of MSNBC.

[Cha]

41. She better not if

she wants in a chance in hell getting enough Dems out for the GE.

[TheWraith]

42. Yeah, I think that the DNC would send somebody to have a talk LONG before then. NT

[rodeodance]

68. You are getting paronoid? a little scared?--stop listening to Fineman!

[anamandujano]

47. Fineman is always a

reliable source. :eyes:

[rodeodance]

58. All of a sudden that RW hag is the Hero to Obama fans. Do tell!!

[LadyVT]

43. Go Hillary!

[Barack_America]

45. I admire your hope and optimism.

;)

[rodeodance]

65. ~yes we can~ yes she can~

[rodeodance]

48. ~ALL FIRED-UP FOR THE LADY~ YES SHE CAN, YES CAN~

[anamandujano]

50. No more style over substance. The people who are really on the

line with this election will choose Hillary. They've been snookered before too many times and know what it looks like.

[rodeodance]

57. The swooning crowd including DU'ers will have to be De-programed!

[PresidentObama]

54. And YES, SHE WILL!!

[rodeodance]

56. Clinton to hold rally at OSU [OHIO} Thursday-he “Solutions for America” event,

Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject Clinton to hold rally at OSU Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4568343#4568343
4568343, Clinton to hold rally at OSU Posted by rodeodance on Wed Feb-13-08 12:40 AM



http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/02/12/hillaryclinton.html?adsec=politics&sid=101

Clinton to hold rally at OSU Thursday
Participation in Cleveland debate up in air
Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:28 PM
By Jonathan Riskind
The Columbus Dispatch

Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York will kick off her Ohio campaign Thursday with a rally at Ohio State University.

The “Solutions for America” event, to begin at 6 p.m., will be held in the French Field House at Ohio State University. Clinton will be joined by Gov. Ted Strickland and former Sen. John Glenn of Ohio.

Clinton also will campaign in Youngstown Thursday morning, although details were not available

..........

But the debate in Cleveland to be carried by NBC's WKYC (Channel 3) is on again – at least according two of the three parties.

[Arugula Latte]

61. Vamos a ver ...

Vamos a ver.

[AJH032]

63. it's not over yet!

To see Hillary become president would be a dream come true for me. (Nothing against Obama, I don't dislike him, he's just not my preference)

[rodeodance]

64. LOOKY HERE:--another new thread asking all to unite behind obama:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4567926&mesg_id=4567926

[rodeodance]

67. Topic subject I think Hillary Clinton gave a powerful speech in Texas tonight

Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject I think Hillary Clinton gave a powerful speech in Texas tonight
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4563101#4563101
4563101, I think Hillary Clinton gave a powerful speech in Texas tonight
Posted by bigtree on Tue Feb-12-08 08:50 PM

She's full of energy. Definitely stepped up her appeal. I like the compassion and the tone of her pitch. There was lots of energy from the crowd, as well. Her pitch was, "I'm a problem solver." Let's get to work, and put our hopes into action.

This should be a good finish to the campaign, from both candidates. I'm watching Sen. Obama now, as I type . . .

[quinnox]

71. Go Hillary, she can do it!

Hillary is just great!

[applegrove]

73. Oh let it be "the good fight". Let them use might and integrity. I want

to see that in huge amounts over the next few weeks. And may the best woman/man win. That is all I ask. A really big & fair fight.