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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:25 PM
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If you're sick of all the Obama / Clinton nonsense...
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 03:26 PM by ClassWarrior
...get away from the election threads and work for IMPEACHMENT instead. After all, who wants to hand all those powers that Bush** and Cheney** have grabbed to either one of those two? Or worse, to McCave or Huckleberry??

Begin here, before it's too late: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2852544&mesg_id=2852544

NGU.


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:26 PM
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1. Now, there's an idea.
:)
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 03:36 PM
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2. Hey, it makes a good stress reliever.
:hi:

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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:22 PM
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3. It's no longer about abstract "justice", or holding the bastards "responsible."
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 04:35 PM by mojowork_n
For a lot of people, it could involve the most fundamental issues of freedom, and personal survival.

According to the article flagged in this thread, there are 773,000 names are on the "terror suspect" watchlist. The list grows by 20,000 names a month.



Who's on the list? Anyone that ever attended an anti-Klan rally, protested the Jena 6, or attended a Green Party meeting?

At the same time, on the "other side", the worst sort of corruption (they used to call it "war profiteering") is being covered up:

August 31, 2007
U.S. Says Company Bribed Officers for Work in Iraq
By ERIC SCHMITT and JAMES GLANZ
WASHINGTON, Aug. 30 — An American-owned company operating from Kuwait paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes to American contracting officers in efforts to win more than $11 million in contracts, the government says in court documents.

The Army last month suspended the company, Lee Dynamics International, from doing business with the government, and the case now appears to be at the center of a contracting fraud scandal that prompted Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates to dispatch the Pentagon inspector general to Iraq to investigate.

Court documents filed in the case say the Army took action because the company was suspected of paying hundreds of thousands in bribes to Army officers to secure contracts to build, operate and maintain warehouses in Iraq that stored weapons, uniforms, vehicles and other matériel for Iraqi forces in 2004 and 2005.

...The case is now part of a broader investigation in which the Army has a high-level team reviewing 18,000 contracts valued at more than $3 billion that the Kuwait office has awarded over four years...

...One of the officers, Maj. Gloria D. Davis, a contracting official in Kuwait, shot and killed herself in Baghdad in December 2006. Government officials say the suicide occurred a day after she admitted to an Army investigator that she had accepted at least $225,000 in bribes from the company... ...


Full text here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/31/washington/31contract.html?ei=5090&en=379525d15e30c78d&ex=1346212800&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1188584312-oewPz7sFi4/FHTdMel0fSg&pagewanted=print

Those corruption investigations could lead to General David Petraeus. Col. Ted Westhusing (the Army's top "ethicist" -- who knew they had one -- was investigating fraud in Iraq when he was said to have committed "suicide." His superior officer at the time was Petraeus.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/an-american-death-col-_b_11373.html

After seeing the SF Chronicle report in that D.U. thread, I checked one of my favorites, among the farther-out-there news reporting websites, to ping for echoes. (Where you sometimes do find things that never make it into the Post, or the Times, until after they happen.)









edit: I mis-copied the first link.

E-mail to John Conyer's office sent.




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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 06:28 PM
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5. Amen, mo!!
NGU.


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mojowork_n Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 08:30 PM
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6. When I linked there, I wasn't too sure about info from "Blacklistednews"
But I was very surprised to discover that that second link, about the privatized FBI network, came from a trusted source:

Exclusive! The FBI Deputizes Business

By Matthew Rothschild

12/02/08 " The Progressive" -- -- Today, more than 23,000 representatives of private industry are working quietly with the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. The members of this rapidly growing group, called InfraGard, receive secret warnings of terrorist threats before the public does—and, at least on one occasion, before elected officials. In return, they provide information to the government, which alarms the ACLU. But there may be more to it than that. One business executive, who showed me his InfraGard card, told me they have permission to “shoot to kill” in the event of martial law.

InfraGard is “a child of the FBI,” says Michael Hershman, the chairman of the advisory board of the InfraGard National Members Alliance and CEO of the Fairfax Group, an international consulting firm.

InfraGard started in Cleveland back in 1996, when the private sector there cooperated with the FBI to investigate cyber threats.

“Then the FBI cloned it,” says Phyllis Schneck, chairman of the board of directors of the InfraGard National Members Alliance, and the prime mover behind the growth of InfraGard over the last several years.

InfraGard itself is still an FBI operation, with FBI agents in each state overseeing the local InfraGard chapters. (There are now eighty-six of them.) The alliance is a nonprofit organization of private sector InfraGard members.


I actually vetted the link through another at-the-edge website:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19338.htm

From one of Madison, Wisconsin's best periodicals, "The Progressive" magazine.


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ProgressIn2008 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:23 PM
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4. Heh, good suggestion and much more productive... K&R!
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 08:46 PM
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7. And it's fun too!
Thanks for the K&R...

NGU.


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