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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:25 PM
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Poll question: Will the Hillary Experience Card pushed in the primaries help Hillary against John McCain in the GE?
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 01:26 PM by FrenchieCat
That's the card that Hillary is pushing now; her 35 years of experience, i.e., she will be more competent.

So let's take that to the GE, and ask yourself, who might win that argument:

HILLARY CLINTON:
Less than 1 year of working for the Childrens Defense Fund straight out of College
15 years of being a corporate lawyer
12 years as First Lady of Arkansas
8 years of being First Lady and 1 failed Health Care proposal
7 years of legislative experience as a Senator- I don't know what her major accomplishments were.


JOHN MCAIN:
Naval Aviator, 23 bombing missions
Shot down, injured and held captive for 5 years
4 years as U.S. Representative
24 years as U.S. Senator - Authored McCain-Feingold, proposed McCain-Kennedy Immigration reform, championed the Line-Item veto act of 1996, and voted against the 1996 Telecommmunications act that Bill Clinton signed while in office.

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Both voted for the IWR, the Patriot Act, No Children left behind,

SO who wins the experience argument in the eyes of the General Electorate? And if that card cannot be played by Sen. Clinton, what does she use in its stead?




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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:31 PM
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1. I just wish someone would propose what Card Hillary plays against McCain?
The "He's so crazy" card? Will that work?
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:33 PM
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4. "I'm getting us out of Iraq, he wants to be there for 100 years"
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:34 PM
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5. "I will repair the economy. Do we trust another Republican or a Clinton to fix it"
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:33 PM
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2. Nobody thinks Clinton lacks enough experience or ability to be president
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:33 PM
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3. Doesn't matter. A Democrat will be elected this year.
The next president will be a strong woman or a strong black man.

Not a really really old white guy with a conservative base that HATES HIS GUTS!

Nice push poll.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:36 PM
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6. The conservatives hate McCain, and the liberals can't stand Hillary
I'd say it's a draw on that one. Probably a good thing that she won't be in the General Election.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:36 PM
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7. I considered it an honest poll. Hillary HAS been pushing that she is most electable
because of her experience.


And I don't know if Hillary wins against McCain.

He'll bring out the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton argument......
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:50 PM
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10. Um, have you been checking the polls?
She LOSES to McCain, because she can't attract independents.

The Democrats are not a lock to win the White House this year.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:56 PM
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12. We are on our way to blowing this thing! We even have the advantage
of knowing who their candidate will be.....and some still buy the Hillary Experience factor.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 02:23 PM
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17. Ohhh... The polls are important now. Then we should have nominated Edwards.
He beat Everybody by the most.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:41 PM
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8. The ONLY thing that will save HRC in the general against McCain
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 01:42 PM by Windy
is her "claim" that she wants to begin to bring the troops home within 6 months.

That of course depends on how much McCain moderates during the general given the fact that he wasn't as hawish in the beginning of the war and only moved that way because he was going to run for president. Once he wins the election, he MUST try and get the vote of the 60+% of the general population of the US that wants to get out of Iraq if he wants to win.

There will be moderation.

We'll see what happens.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:47 PM
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9. I don't even want to see that contest!
I'd rather force McCain to argue why War in Iraq was ever a good idea!
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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 01:56 PM
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11. usually when you do a poll
you through out the options and let the people taking the give reason why they voted a certain way. You're poll has an argument of vote a certain way first, encouraging one choice over another. You should have just thrown the two options out and saw what you got. Instead you made a Pro-Obama poll that doesn't even have Obama in the options. It's a bit slanted. Instead of choosing Clinton or McCain I'm going to have to choose "Present"
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 02:06 PM
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14. Because Obama has not been pushing "experience" as a reason that we should
vote for him. Obama's card is Good Judgement. That's why I didn't include him in this poll.

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TheDeathadder Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 02:12 PM
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15. Right - but for polls
you should just say who would win on experience: Clinton VS McCain.

Not - In my opinion Clinton doesn't really have experience McCain does *wink* "I believe Clinton can't beat Obama or McCain, but I think Obama can beat McCain" Poll

Imagine if pollsters called people up and gave their opinions before asking the question of the poll. It takes the science of out of the poll is all.
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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 02:06 PM
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13. Hillary is asking everyone to vote Mcain with this
Hillary Clinton has the second least or least amount of experience (depending how you look at it) out of everyone who is running right now. I think her use of the experience label in this instance only points out her lack of experience. Her failure to look ahead of her current battle indicates her inability to lead this country.

Besides every time I hear the words most experience from her or her supporters I can't help but think of the "stay smart" advertisements by Holiday Inn Express.

I for one don't want the son, daughter, or wive/husband of a doctor operating on me just because they stayed at a Holiday Inn or lived in the same house with a doctor for some years....
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 02:21 PM
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16. Yup.......Folks will remember that if Hillary wins the primary, it will be due to her
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 02:22 PM by FrenchieCat
perceived experience.

And if heaven's forbid that Hillary was our nominee, wait till folks find out she doesn't really have any experience! She Didn't even attend National Security meetings or hold National Security Clearance during her 8 years in the White House.

Wait till they find out that what a lot of her experience consists of is pillow talk.

That's not gonna be pretty.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 02:24 PM
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18. Again with the cards....
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