Ed Schultz said that no one will be able to touch Obama because it will look like racism

[boston bean]

and no one is going to go there.

He said this when talking about strategy McCain will be able to use and not use in the GE.

I was flabbergasted!

[xultar]

1. He is right.

[LostinVA]

4. Yup

[boston bean]

5. This coming from the man that went on MSNBC and flat out called Bill Clinton a liar

for perceived racist comments.

[Cooley Hurd]

19. To be fair, Schultz said President Clinton lied about Senator Obama's...

...stance on the Iraq war. Schultz has consistently said that he thought the charges of racism that were leveled at President Clinton were unfair and grossly overblown by the media.

[Blue_In_AK]

9. Yes.

It gives him a certain untouchability that Hillary is not blessed with. She seems to be fair game. (And before anybody jumps all over me, I'm fence-sitting, not supporting Hillary.)

[Mags]

33. seems as though her daughter is now fair game.

[Blue_In_AK]

36. I know...

I was quite disappointed in David Shuster for that comment, which thankfully I didn't personally hear. Poor Chelsea has really taken a lot of abuse from certain corners over the years, and for no good reason that I can see.

[HughMoran]

2. There is some truth to that - the backlash associated with the slightest misuse of language

Could cost McCain the election in a heartbeat.

I have thought this myself, so it's not just Shultz that has this feeling.

Look at what trouble Bill got into for even implying that MLK wasn't solely responsible for the Civil Rights Amendment.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. It will be hard to do so overtly

but I'm sure that covertly there will be a lot of propaganda using the race card--and also the religion one as well. Many Americans equate Islam with brown skinned peoples, and the "Obama is a Muslim" email is one that not only feeds on Islamic prejudice but color prejudice as well.

[joshcryer]

6. I agree 100%. Sexism is ignored, racism not so much.

[incapsulated]

7. Newsflash: Republicans don't get the black vote

And don't care.

They will work under the radar and rather subtly to insinuate race into the campaign, I would bet my next 6 paycheck on it.

[Mz Pip]

24. That's my take on it.

It's pretty naive to think that the GOP won't play the race card. Look at what they did to Harold Ford in his run for Senate in TN. The 527s will do the dirty work. McCain feign outrage for 30 seconds but not much longer.

He could speak out against the Swiftboaters against Kerry because it was easy. He wasn't the candidate.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[incapsulated]

29. Harold Ford, thank you

Case closed.

[DURHAM D]

8. And Ed Shultz perfectly illustrates that sexist attacks are ok.

He does it all day every day and no one comes back at him.

[Quixote1818]

14. Could you give us an example? nt

[Cooley Hurd]

22. He does?

I listen every day and, frankly, I've never heard such a thing.:shrug:

[DURHAM D]

30. If you can't already hear or see it - you will never hear or see it. n/t

[Cooley Hurd]

39. Are you calling ME sexist, without even knowing a THING about me?

THAT says MUCH more about YOU, than anything.:eyes:

On edit: Quixote asked for examples. Can you provide any?:shrug:

[Snotcicles]

10. That pic, who'd a thunk it. nt

[scheming daemons]

11. He's right...

McCain and the GOP would have a tough time "swift-boating" Obama because the backlash they would face.

They would be impotent, and forced to go after Obama on the issues.

...and we all know what happens to Republicans in campaigns that are about the issues.... BLOW OUT.


Rovian strategies won't work against Obama.... as Bill and Hillary are finding out.



So.... another data point showing that Obama is our best bet in the GE.

[indimuse]

12. yep!

heard it with my own 2 ears...

[Cleita]

13. Anyone talking about race is missing the big picture.

Young people who are voting for the first time are turning out in droves to vote and they aren't going to vote for Grandpa McCain for obvious reasons. Look at what happened in Idaho and Utah. It was a miracle. Mostly, the new voters seem to be color blind too.

[Zookeeper]

15. Bingo. n/t

[kstewart33]

16. Are you kidding? What sheer idiocy.

In that way of thinking, no one can criticize Hillary because she's a woman and that would be sexist, or Bloomberg because that would be anti-semetic, or Sen. Shumer because that would be so anti-New York, or Bill Richardson because that would be anti-Hispanic.

If he gets the nomination, Barack will be torn limb to limb like the Repubs do to every Dem candidate and he will have to deal with it, like all white folks before him. And I think he'll do just fine.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

17. As a matter of image that is true.

Republicans don't want to take the broad image hit for the anti-Obama campaign they would certainly run.

As a matter of practical vote-getting, however, the Republicans will get as racist as they feel necessary.

Presidential general election voters do not vote out of pity, and in a zero-sum game suppressing votes is almost as useful as winning votes. The pugs can easily create situations where people don't want to vote for the Racist Republican or the "Muslim drug-dealing" Democrat.

I don't know where they will draw the line but I am guessing it would depend on polling... they will do the bare minimum racist bullshit as they can get away with.

[incapsulated]

18. Honestly, are you people this naive?

Do you honestly think Obama will waltz into the White House past the rethugs who make war heroes into commie-loving traitors and not have race be a factor?

Are we living in the same country or do I need to drink some koolaide?

[pampango]

44. Not willing to live in fear of racists and let them control what we do. n/t

[loveangelc]

20. There is some truth to it. If you look at right wing forums, they all say the same thing

thats part of the reason they are afraid...

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. They will use their 527s to do it and claim they had nothing to do with it. JUST LIKE

THE SWIFTBOATERS. Bush claimed he had NOTHING to do with that ad, yet never renounced it. The same scenario will play out against Obama and the 527's racist slime ads. Trust me. Obama is not immune from their attacks.

[loveangelc]

28. it will backfire though. if they use 527's to put up racist ads, I don't think most people

would be ok with that, and their poll numbers would go down even more...

[in_cog_ni_to]

31. Are you kidding me? Repukes will LOVE it. Harold Ford???, TN..."Harold, call me."

Puhleeeze. The racist party loves racist shit and McCain and his 527s will be working overtime on their slimey ads.

[loveangelc]

40. it worked in TN, barely (Ford didn't lose by that much)

I think it may work in the South which I don't think Obama would win anyway, but I think it would backfire in more states than not...

[incapsulated]

41. You really underestimate the quiet racism in this country

So subconscious a lot of people aren't even aware of it in themselves.

And Tennessee was nothing, wait for the the entire RNC machine to get rolling.

[rinsd]

37. Ask Harold Ford.

[loveangelc]

23. also, rove has said that mccain should rather go against hillary than obama on fox news.

if that means anything..

[gasperc]

25. uh, they'll figure out a way

and Obama will have to sharply counter

[mtnester]

26. The first thing each candidate, if they are the nominee, will be handed like a steaming pile

will be:

If it is Hillary - "Do we really want Bill Clinton "or the Clinton's) back in the White House? Or 7 long months of Monica, cigar gate and Ken Starr running his mouth. (NOT my meme, but certainly enough to get the Repubs base worked into a damn frenzy). PAC's probably already have the first commercial made.

If it is Obama - "Do we want an admitted drug addict running this country?" (NOT my meme...and never mind that we have had a REAL drug addict running this country, or that this meme will most likely come out of the MOUTH of a REAL drug addict)...it is one of the first pieces of poo that will be thrown by the PAC's. PAC's probably already have the first commercial made.


No need to attack on bigoted subjects like race or gender......that will be for the real asshats to deliver at the ballot box on 11/4/08...and unfortunately, there are plenty of bigoted asshats, public and secret, in this country to make a difference. Unless, the Repubs are so stupid...well..that certainly could happen.

Turnout will be the key for whomever the candidate is.

[BuyingThyme]

27. This is true because

the Pukes always use racism. The difference with Obama is that the racism will stand out to where everybody will be able to see it.

I don't know if that's the point made by Schultz, but if so, I'm all for that.

[bullwinkle428]

32. That's why they'll use the "Muslim" smear, like those viral e-mails -

in the eyes of many, Muslim-bashing is one of the last "acceptable prejudices", as sick as that sounds.

[Lucinda]

34. Obama is a sitting duck. We just don't know if the gun is loaded.

If the media wants him coronated, he'll be fine. He's smart and tough enough to handle McCain.
If they don't, there are boatloads of things they can hit him with that won't be remotely racist.
ES has his own agenda with this comment.

[Mr.Fitzgibbons]

35. He is wrong -- in the GE all bets will be off and they will use every evil tactic imaginable to win

This is a complete fantasy on his part.

[rinsd]

38. Then Ed Schultz is a fool. Kerry was supposed to be a bullet proof war hero.

Republicans don't care about the racism charge and the MSM will not be as quick to call them on it as they were with Hillary.

[HughMoran]

42. Kerry was susceptible because they knew he wouldn't fight back

I am still annoyed that he let them smear him, assuming the 'Swift Boating' wouldn't stick.

Well it did, and it's now part of our vernacular. :mad:

[rinsd]

45. No its was the overconfidence in decency and journalism

I think the Kerry campaign could not believe the press was giving voice to such trash.

You see this same overconfidence that attacks on Obama can be diffused by backlash against racism.

[HughMoran]

46. One thing is for sure

Hillary will NOT leave things to chance. She's screwed up a couple of times this primary season, but her screw-ups only make her stronger. She is a LEADER.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

43. since when are republicans afraid of seeming racist?

[NoPasaran]

47. Same reason no one ever jokes about OJ. Or Michael Jackson.

[daleks not included]

48. He is right, take a look at this board

Immigration control= racism

MLK comments = racism

Getting black and lation gang members off the street = racusn


Bill Clitnon = racism


If you don't like Obama = racist


White person complains about being called a racist because they vote for Clinton ( a white woman ) = he or she must be racist




I don't know what is worse, actual racists or those that are quick to say that they are not racist because they like Obama. OR Those that say Mr. Schultz is a racist for saying that.