Edwards supporters, did Obama saying in a Debate that he was as lobbyist free as Edwards offend you?

[REDFISHBLUEFISH]

Obama's dealings with Rezko raise a parcel of questions: Chicago Sun-Times 11-2-06
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/121104,CST-NWS-br...

Obama regrets financial arrangements with accused fundraiser: ABC 7 Chicago 11-4-06
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/184952,CST-...

Internship also links Obama, Rezko: Chicago Sun-Times 12-24-06
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/184952,CST-...

Obama's ex-boss a Rezko partner: Chicago Sun-Times 4-23-07
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353797,CST-NWS-rezda...

Obama's Rezko ties: Chicago Sun-Times 4-23-07
http://www.suntimes.com/news/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.artic...

Obama's letter's for Rezko: Chicago Sun-Times 6-13-07
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/425305,CST-...

8 things you need to know about Obama-Rezko: Chicago Sun-Times 1-24-08
http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/757340,CST-NWS-w...

Time for Obama to come clean: Chicago Sun-Times 1-24-08
http://www.suntimes.com/news/brown/757286,CST-NWS-brown...

Indicted Obama fundraiser arrested: Associated Press 1-28-08
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gWEn19RovunDF8NAXPH8...


I'd say Obama is way dirtier.

[Kittycat]

1. Give it a rest. Sockpuppet.

Do you really want to bring up Rezco with HRC's past, and also her ties to him? Not to mention - when is she going to open up her tax return, and bill his donor list? I'm sure there's plenty of secrets there to keep the republicans going for another 8 years.

[REDFISHBLUEFISH]

4. Hey you guys are free to talk about Hillarys loan, Rezko is OPENED up!

Cannot wait for the trial!

[Kittycat]

6. Yes. let's discuss her loan... Where is she getting her money?

Full disclosure.

[REDFISHBLUEFISH]

7. Her money is Bill's money, Husbands and wives share! Kennedy's were bootleggers? He endorsed Obama?

Dirty pool!

[rpannier]

Bootleggers??? Sounds almost like an episode of the Simpsons

Joe Kennedy made his bucks in a variety of unsavory ways.

Give it a rest. Bootlegging was 70+ years ago. Joe's dead.

[REDFISHBLUEFISH]

18. Bootleggers were the drug dealers of their day.

[karynnj]

25. So, in 2004, THK should have been able to get Senator Kerry millions?

He has actually had to list how often he used her plane and to pay the cost of a first class ticket. As to the comment on the Kennedys, Ted Kennedy has spent his life in public service as did his JFK and RFK - and their older brother died in service. That family has given far more to this country and to real Democratic causes than any other I could name - including the Clintons. (In fact HRC claimed as her top accomplishment a Kennedy achievement - SCHIP.)

You may find more friends at FR with that nonsense.

[sandnsea]

14. Hsu, Trie, Chung, Huang

David Rosen, her finance director indicted in connection with Peter Paul. It's astonishing that Hillary's supporters think it's legitimate to scare people with this nothing Rezko nonsense.

[juajen]

13. While I'm not too fond of your politics,

I loved your baby stuff and website. Great things. I will recommend.

P.S. From her autobiography which she got an advance of 10 million dollars for and which was a best seller all over the world. Her first book did very well, also, you know, "It Takes a Village." She does not need Bill's money. She has always been the major breadwinner in that family, with the exception of when she was First Lady. They don't pay them, ya know?

[rpannier]

2. I'm not offended because I'm used to these things

I voted Edwards and will still support the Democratic nominee -- like Edwards is doing.

[nonconformist]

3. Yes, as an Edwards supporter I was furious. nt

[REDFISHBLUEFISH]

5. Edwards was the cleanest Candidate we had. No one should have pointed at him.

[bellasgrams]

10. Did you Edwards folks hear that BO made fun of him during a

speech?

[jackson_dem]

12. No. That was taken out of context

He did make a racist joke about Edwards in a debate though. Remember "When you have a woman running, an African-American running...and John..."?

[REDFISHBLUEFISH]

23. Yeah He did play race card in a joke.

[juajen]

17. I totally agree. I really miss all of them so much.

I know how much his wonderful supporters are missing him, if I, a Hillary supporter, am missing him too. It's simple, I love him, as many, many Americans do. That love extends to the wonderful Elizabeth and his three beautiful and adorable children. I am so sorry for this blank spot in so many of our hearts. I know, it's not like it's permanent, but I miss seeing him all the time.

[Tennessee Gal]

8. Yep, it sure did offend me.

It angered me.

[REDFISHBLUEFISH]

9. I hope Edwards gets his due! The guy is incredible.

[AndyA]

11. I find so much about Obama offensive.

But I'll just wait til all the dirt on him starts getting tossed by the GOP, and he'll cave because he can't handle it.

Really, he's not done a good job of clearing up issues at all. And if you don't tend to them, they just grow...and grow...and grow.

Barack should ask his bud John Kerry about it...Kerry can tell him all about it.

[saracat]

15. Yup. I was offended.

[REDFISHBLUEFISH]

16. I would think Edwards supporters would realize Obama calculatingly lied and took Edwards mantle.

Edwards was the only unbought guy running.

[karynnj]

26. His buddy John Kerry had NOTHING to clean up

Johnn Kerry was a highly decorated war hero and he had his entire record on his web site (except the medial stuff) that was open to the media for around a week. Unlike Bush's record, everything was there - the date ranges on the fitness reports spanned the entire 3 plus years he was in service. That record was and is spotless and filled with praise. If that weren't enough, Doug Brinkley, and academic historian, who was reputable enough to be asked to edit Reagan's diaries, interviewed over 100 people and looked through records of the entire operation. He backed Kerry. Not, to be overlooked, the Nixon administration investigated him to get any dirt they could on him. They found he was a war hero and extremely clean cut. That's why they got John O'Neil and others - their goal was to destroy him.

ALL OF THAT WAS COMMON KNOWLEDGE IN THE MEDIA before August.

This was not like the Clinton stories where they just got a response out - this was something that Senator Kerry was proud of and so much that was much in those years that showed that Kerry was a very compassionate, thoughtful leader who had the respect and even love of the people reporting to him. This was a media assassination. You should think twice before you join the SBVT in saying that Kerry had anything to explain. Did it ever hit you that the media NEVER asked the SBVT for one piece of proof for stories that were the opposite of the official record - a record some of them wrote or signed off on. Senator Warner stated on the Senate floor that when he was Secretary of the Navy, he was the one who reviewed Kerry's silver star and he signed off on it - and it was well deserved.

As to Obama - this story was vetted in the Chicago papers some time ago. He was unwise to have associated with him, but there is just 1 of him - look at the Clinton list here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4473288

[Garbo 2004]

19. In this cycle both Edwards and Obama said they accept no donations from federal lobbyists.

At times they both have said they do not accept money from lobbyists, but both have clarified that they mean they do not accept money from federal/DC lobbyists. Both have accepted money from state/local lobbyists.

[REDFISHBLUEFISH]

20. Obama took Edwards idea and then acted as if it was his.

[Garbo 2004]

21. Regardless, it is the same practice this cycle. Both accepted lobbyist $, but not fed lobbyist $ n/t

[REDFISHBLUEFISH]

22. It just seems odd that Obama's campaign is based on stolen ideas.

That and he took lobbyist money at first, only switched after exploratory committee.

[earth mom]

24. Sounds like Obama will do anything to win.

:yoiks:

[REDFISHBLUEFISH]

27. Yep!