Obama: Clinton supporters will back me; Not sure my supporters will back her

[journalist3072]

Barack Obama, in all of his arrogance (once again on display) believes that Sen. Clinton's supporters will back him, but says he doesn't really believe that his supporters will back her:

"I am confident I will get her votes if I'm the nominee," Obama stressed. "It's not clear she would get the votes I got if she were the nominee."

Source: http://0-firstread.msnbc.msn.com.millennium.unicatt.it/archive/2008/02/01/629273.aspx

Well, here is one Clinton supporter who says to Barack Obama: do not count on my vote. I will not support you, Barack Obama, if you are the nominee.

[BlackVelvet04]

1. This Clinton supporter won't back him.....n/t

[REDFISHBLUEFISH]

4. Positve? Change? I think not, Obama is nothing new,

He acts like Dubya, Im a uniter not a divider...Then proceeds to put out a divisive message!

Undermines his own campaigns theme here!

BAD MOVE!

[journalist3072]

9. Like I said before.....If Obama wins, it's "meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

I have no doubt about that.

[neutron]

11. They will when they read today's NYT SCANDEL:

Take a look at a couple of things.

First, the NYT today: He took hundreds of thousands of dollars from Nuclear interests then
worked AGAINST the interest of his contituents.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/us/politics/03exelon....

This was a bill to protect the public by forcing Nuclear Power Plants to report leaks.
The first bill wasn't bad. But he re-wrote it so that it was toothless, and protected only
the industry, not the public.

He bragged in Iowa that he had passed legislation that never went through.

For this alone, this guy is a jerk and a fraud.

Oh, and here is what Paul Krugman thinks about his economy plan:

Responding to Recession
by Paul Krugman

<snip>
Since this is an election year, the debate over how to stimulate the economy is inevitably tied up with politics. And here’s a modest suggestion for political reporters. Instead of trying to divine the candidates’ characters by scrutinizing their tone of voice and facial expressions, why not pay attention to what they say about economic policy?
In fact, recent statements by the candidates and their surrogates about the economy are quite revealing.
<snip>
On the Democratic side, John Edwards, although never the front-runner, has been driving his party’s policy agenda. He’s done it again on economic stimulus: last month, before the economic consensus turned as negative as it now has, he proposed a stimulus package including aid to unemployed workers, aid to cash-strapped state and local governments, public investment in alternative energy, and other measures.
Last week Hillary Clinton offered a broadly similar but somewhat larger proposal. (It also includes aid to families having trouble paying heating bills, which seems like a clever way to put cash in the hands of people likely to spend it.) The Edwards and Clinton proposals both contain provisions for bigger stimulus if the economy worsens.
And you have to say that Mrs. Clinton seems comfortable with and knowledgeable about economic policy. I’m sure the Hillary-haters will find some reason that’s a bad thing, but there’s something to be said for presidents who know what they’re talking about.
The Obama campaign’s initial response to the latest wave of bad economic news was, I’m sorry to say, disreputable: Mr. Obama’s top economic adviser claimed that the long-term tax-cut plan the candidate announced months ago is just what we need to keep the slump from “morphing into a drastic decline in consumer spending.” Hmm: claiming that the candidate is all-seeing, and that a tax cut originally proposed for other reasons is also a recession-fighting measure — doesn’t that sound familiar?
Anyway, on Sunday Mr. Obama came out with a real stimulus plan. As was the case with his health care plan, which fell short of universal coverage, his stimulus proposal is similar to those of the other Democratic candidates, but tilted to the right.
For example, the Obama plan appears to contain none of the alternative energy initiatives that are in both the Edwards and Clinton proposals, and emphasizes across-the-board tax cuts over both aid to the hardest-hit families and help for state and local governments. I know that Mr. Obama’s supporters hate to hear this, but he really is less progressive than his rivals on matters of domestic policy.
In short, the stimulus debate offers a pretty good portrait of the men and woman who would be president. And I haven’t said a word about their hairstyles.

[Tellurian]

34. Obama's Interesting mindset, he would NOT support Hillary if she wins the Nom ..

hmmm...verrry interesting..!

[chascarrillo]

46. Liar. He's said repeatedly that he'll back Clinton.

Stop lying. Okay?

[Tellurian]

66. He changes his mind everyday....can't TRUST him to keep his word!!!!!!

[polpilot]

18. Hillary: Working for 'healthcare for all' since 1992...

or was it 1892?...

[MzShellG]

29. journalist3072, how can you be serious?

Barack is a man who fought for equality, as a civil rights attorney on the streets of Chicago. He was a community organizer. He gave up lucrative job offers in prestigious law firms to fight for the little man. Barack is sincere, are you? How can you possibly think that he will be the same as a Washington insider? Come on. You're not very convincing.

[journalist3072]

49. Give me a break. Obama IS a Washington insider. You don't think he has the Washington

establishment behind him? Think Ted Kennedy.

Obama IS a Washington insider.

And yes, I'm serious. I will not be voting for him. I do not like the type of campaign he has run. I think it's been disgusting.

[Tellurian]

13. Time for Hillary to issue another SMACKDOWN..

Barack Hussein doesn't want to play nice!

[Justice Is Comin]

68. It's all right here.

[libbygurl]

2. But he's a 'uniter', isn't he? nt

[neutron]

14. He's a Liar and Caved to Industry Interests:

Take a look at a couple of things.

First, the NYT today: He took hundreds of thousands of dollars from Nuclear interests then
worked AGAINST the interest of his contituents.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/us/politics/03exelon....

This was a bill to protect the public by forcing Nuclear Power Plants to report leaks.
The first bill wasn't bad. But he re-wrote it so that it was toothless, and protected only
the industry, not the public.

He bragged in Iowa that he had passed legislation that never went through.

For this alone, this guy is a jerk and a fraud.

Oh, and here is what Paul Krugman thinks about his economy plan:

Responding to Recession
by Paul Krugman

<snip>
Since this is an election year, the debate over how to stimulate the economy is inevitably tied up with politics. And here’s a modest suggestion for political reporters. Instead of trying to divine the candidates’ characters by scrutinizing their tone of voice and facial expressions, why not pay attention to what they say about economic policy?
In fact, recent statements by the candidates and their surrogates about the economy are quite revealing.
<snip>
On the Democratic side, John Edwards, although never the front-runner, has been driving his party’s policy agenda. He’s done it again on economic stimulus: last month, before the economic consensus turned as negative as it now has, he proposed a stimulus package including aid to unemployed workers, aid to cash-strapped state and local governments, public investment in alternative energy, and other measures.
Last week Hillary Clinton offered a broadly similar but somewhat larger proposal. (It also includes aid to families having trouble paying heating bills, which seems like a clever way to put cash in the hands of people likely to spend it.) The Edwards and Clinton proposals both contain provisions for bigger stimulus if the economy worsens.
And you have to say that Mrs. Clinton seems comfortable with and knowledgeable about economic policy. I’m sure the Hillary-haters will find some reason that’s a bad thing, but there’s something to be said for presidents who know what they’re talking about.
The Obama campaign’s initial response to the latest wave of bad economic news was, I’m sorry to say, disreputable: Mr. Obama’s top economic adviser claimed that the long-term tax-cut plan the candidate announced months ago is just what we need to keep the slump from “morphing into a drastic decline in consumer spending.” Hmm: claiming that the candidate is all-seeing, and that a tax cut originally proposed for other reasons is also a recession-fighting measure — doesn’t that sound familiar?
Anyway, on Sunday Mr. Obama came out with a real stimulus plan. As was the case with his health care plan, which fell short of universal coverage, his stimulus proposal is similar to those of the other Democratic candidates, but tilted to the right.
For example, the Obama plan appears to contain none of the alternative energy initiatives that are in both the Edwards and Clinton proposals, and emphasizes across-the-board tax cuts over both aid to the hardest-hit families and help for state and local governments. I know that Mr. Obama’s supporters hate to hear this, but he really is less progressive than his rivals on matters of domestic policy.
In short, the stimulus debate offers a pretty good portrait of the men and woman who would be president. And I haven’t said a word about their hairstyles.

[libbygurl]

30. Yep. And only Krugman is unafraid to give solid criticism of his platform! Love the guy...

...and he's the only remaining credible opinion writer in the NY Times.

[Tellurian]

37. And Obama supporters LIKE Living a LIE!

It's their poor little petty EGOS that are going to get us killed!

[polpilot]

15. 'Uniter' not 'magician'

YES WE CAN!

[sunonmars]

3. After his cockiness, he needs to apologize for that and quick.

what a smarmy little toad

[HughMoran]

5. That was a little over the top

He needs to not use blog entries as talking points.

[intheozone]

6. This statement really shows his arrogance and overconfidence.

He could at least pretend to be asking for the Hillary supporters to back him if he is the nominee. These qualities are not good in president.

[UALRBSofL]

33. Can you say scare tactics

Good Rovian way to put it.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

7. Sowing the seeds of discord within the party.

What a good journalist you are.

[journalist3072]

12. You're damn right I'm a good journalist. I pointed out a quote from Obama. You mad?

Get over it.

I'm sorry if I drew your attention to a quote from Obama, that does not paint him in the most favorable light.

I'm sure you'll get over it.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

17. No. You're grammar, syntax and spelling is sorely lacking...

but that is not the point. You do not provoke rational discussion. You incite hatred. That is not good journalism. And, I know you are incapable of "getting over it".

[Straight Shooter]

56. "You're grammar, syntax and spelling is sorely lacking..."

LOL! Your criticism is highly ironic.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

65. That is pretty funny...

maybe I should have sat this one out! :rofl: :blush:

[polpilot]

8. Obama's just stating a well known fact....

Many, many democrats are not going to support and vote for 'more of the same.'

[intheozone]

19. It cannot be a well known fact that HC supporters will go to Obama.

The way I feel right now, I can't support him if he is the nominee. Nobody knows what the future holds and I am suspicious of anyone who tries to convince that he/she does.

[polpilot]

25. You're right.

It's not 'well known'

[NoBorders]

10. Way to misundestand

He's saying there are voters out there--independent types--who will vote for him in the GE, who won't vote for her. Just the facts, not some threat or attempt to divide the party.

[MoonRiver]

16. Arrogant bastard.

:mad:

[PDittie]

27. Is that sexist?

Because, you know, if someone were to call Hillary an "arrogant bitch" ...

:shrug:

[MoonRiver]

36. That happens about 500 times per day on DU.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

42. So, your adding more sexism is then justified?

Please. This is about as lame an excuse as one could conjure.

[loveangelc]

20. its true

[madrchsod]

21. you will not support a democratic candidate for the presidency

good bye

[kurth]

22. I thought he was a Democrat

[WillyT]

23. Jesus People...

If Obama wins the nomination, Hillary will ask for her supporters to vote for him in the GE. Some will, some will not. Some of them right here will not, apparently.

If Clinton wins the nomination, Barack will ask for his supporters to vote for her in the GE. Some will, some will not. Some of them right here will not, apparently.

Same as it ever was.

What he said may have been impolitic... but a lot of truths are considered impolitic.

:shrug:

[UALRBSofL]

43. The point is if he's going to

Use scare tactics to get votes by making these statements, what else would he do?

[awaysidetraveler]

24. It's not arrogant, just true: a vote for HRC is a pro-war vote, so people like me won't vote her in.

Whereas a vote for Obama is an anti-war vote, and that makes all the difference.

A vote for Obama isn't an immoral vote, whereas a vote for Hillary is.

[lvx35]

28. So you would rather have John "surge" McCain than somebody commited to end the war?

You want this guy who'd love to have the troops there 100 years:
http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/01/6735_mccain_in_nh_wo.html
Rather than somebody who voted to give the president the authorization for it after a major terror attack, and who represents a set of policies that were in power for 8 YEARS 92-2000 without anything LIKE this happening and who's committed to ending it? That's your politics, and you expect me to stand with YOU in the GE???

[PDittie]

26. The truth is sometimes brutal.

Evidence: the reactions of those that would deny it.

[MzShellG]

31. It's a fact...

She's polarizing and has pissed off more of his supporters then he has hers. Get over it and deal with it.

[BlackVelvet04]

38. I guess you have some facts to back that up?

Let's see the hard data on that.

[Omega3]

39. the only thing more polarizing than HC

are all you Obama cultists on DU. You are NOT doing him any good here.

[NoodleyAppendage]

32. He's just stating the truth. PEOPLE HATE HILLARY...get a clue.

Outside of DU and the circle jerk squad around here, there are vast numbers of Americans who CANNOT STAND HILLARY. Google up her most recent "likability" numbers and get back to me.

J

[Avalux]

35. He's right. He gets independents and crossover republicans. She doesn't.

Obama will beat McCain in the GE if he's our nominee.

[BlackVelvet04]

41. By the time the republicans

dig out everything there is on Obama we'll be lucky if a Democrat gets near the Whitehouse in the next 20 years.

[creeksneakers2]

47. Hillary polls about as well against McCain n/t

[Omega3]

50. how far ahead was Kerry against Bush?

I wish half of you Obamaites had passed Poli Sci 101.

[Avalux]

51. Nice, insults. All we get are personal insults. n/t

[Omega3]

52. I was told to get a clue

:cry: I can't go on like this :sarcasm:

[Avalux]

53. It's OK.

You know what's cool about the primaries? Once the nominee is decided, we'll all be friends again. ;-)

[Omega3]

55. you're right, it's the silly season

:toast:

[JorgeTheGood]

40. Here's one he won't get ...

Arrogant A$$

[BlackVelvet04]

44. Yep....

I'm with you. I refuse to vote for a fake. I refuse to compromise again like I did with Kerry.

[guruoo]

45. So you'll back McCain, by default, eh?

[LowerManhattanite]

61. Not by default...

...OP has literally said he/she would vote GOP in previous posts should it come down to Obama vs. McCain in the GE.

Take that for what it is.

[guruoo]

76. Then I wonder what they're doing on DU?

[JorgeTheGood]

67. BO will roll right if he gets the white house ...

More war -- Pakistan this time and increase troops to Afghanistan ...
He'll try to mess with Social Security (same as bush)
He;ll work for amnesty (same as bush)
etc
etc
etc

as noted up-thread.

Obama is a complete fake

[guruoo]

74. Hope for the best while preparing for...

the worst. Right now, I'm working my keyster off to
become debt-free and at a high state of personal security preparedness
by the time the GE rolls around.

[creeksneakers2]

48. That Obama statement was a compliment to Hillary supporters

and an insult to his own supporters.

One dumb statement isn't enough to throw general election votes away over though.

[Straight Shooter]

54. That's because most Clinton supporters can focus on the long-term picture.

We're more concerned with the Supreme Court than with Lord Barack's Supreme Ego.

Of course I'll vote for the Ted Kennedy/Lieberman puppet if he's the nominee.

[REDFISHBLUEFISH]

57. Hillary 08!

[Straight Shooter]

58. Ah. It's my favorite enthusiastic positive-minded Hillary supporter!

:hi:

[sidwill]

59. Why hate on Obama for making a valid observation?

Obama counts many new voters and independents as supporters, Hilary cannot say the same.

I don't think this is much of a secret.

[OzarkDem]

60. What an arrogant a$$

Its this kind of crap from Obama that really turns me off.

If we are unfortunate enough to have him as our Dem nominee, I would seriously consider not voting in the GE.

[annie1]

72. He's so fucking arrogrant it's sickening. lucky for me...

i live in a blue state so technically i don't have to vote for him as pres. I can vote party line and skip pres cuz NYS is always blue.

[ForRusty]

62. He speaks truth to power.

The bile I read on these forums from Obama supporters validates it.

[busymom]

63. That was not classy.

He really does come off as an arrogant prick.

[Citizen Kang]

64. and

Hillary comes off as a cold, uppity bitch. Whats your point?

[Justice Is Comin]

69. Another perfect example to file away

to show the pompous ass he is.

[ErnestoG]

70. "I will not support you, Barack Obama, if you are the nominee."

Have fun in your short stay on DU, then.

[annie1]

71. Spoken like a true unifer. Barack, fu.

[elixir2]

73. His brash cockiness is disturbing and may be his undoing.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

75. what a smug asshat

[Texas_Kat]

77. Many of Barry's primary voters won't vote for him in the general, either

They'll be voting for McCain.

[Andromeda]

78. I won't support Obama either.

And I may not vote at all in the GE if he is the candidate. I feel that strongly about how bad he will be for the country.

Obama is a cheap trickster and charlatan. Limosene liberals like him because it's "trendy" to support Obama.

Shove it, Oprah!