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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:00 PM
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Edwards Unlikely to Make Endorsement Soon
Sources close to John Edwards tell CNN not to expect him to endorse either of his former presidential rivals before Super Tuesday.

Political Wire sources also say Edwards isn't ready to endorse anyone yet.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/02/02/edwards_unlikely_to_make_endorsement_soon.html
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:04 PM
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1. Good for him.
He shouldn't endorse anyone until he sees if either candidate keeps the promise to make poverty a central issue in their campaigns and administration.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:43 PM
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2. I support him in that. Endorse no one.
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 03:45 PM by saracat
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:31 PM
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34. Thank You John For Waiting. Let "Them" Prove Themselves On Their Own!
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 06:08 PM
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42. I'M WITH YOU THEIR LITTLE kITTY
Unless, you see something that leads you to think there is one that shouldn't win!
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:43 PM
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3. He will support whoever looks like they're going to win.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:55 PM
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4. delete
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 03:55 PM by robbedvoter
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publicatlarge Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:08 PM
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5. Changes...
Edwards will make changes as he can get the most leverage for his progressive movement. That could be at any time. Or not.

Remember, back when, candidates just stood up and talked about what they were for and what they would do as president - without all this media crap and behind the scenes fuckery? It's like the primaries have become the smoke-filled back rooms, and we the people are all left in the dark.

Al Gore's 'Assault on Reason' clearly spelled all this out going in, and here we are in the middle of it.


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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:36 PM
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36. Yes we are. Does anyone care?
Al Gore's 'Assault on Reason' clearly spelled all this out going in, and here we are in the middle of it

I guess so long as your candidate is being marginalized by the corprat media, who cares, right? :banghead:
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publicatlarge Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 06:03 PM
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39. Not sure what you mean here...
Blue State Native: Al Gore and John Edwards are the only leaders who inspire me. The MSM would have tried to take Gore out, and they have destroyed Edwards campaign. If there was a process which presented a slate of candidates in June 2008 (and not earlier) - and actual fair and accurate reporting of the campaigns on the MSM - and the candidates were as they were, but with the addition of Gore - who do you think would have won the nomination? Without Gore in the scenario even, who do you think would have won?

Something for us all to consider. What has happened to our democracy...?



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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 06:06 PM
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41. This wasn't directed at you publicatlarge.
It was in response to your post, which I agreed with.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:09 PM
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6. What a little schemer...even Hillary is more reliable in her beliefs than this guy
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:15 PM
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7. Who have the following candidates endorsed?
Dodd
Biden
Kucinich
Richardson

Tancredo
Hunter
Tommy Thompson
Fred Thompson
Gilmore

It is only Edwards that Obamites are saying should be forced to endorse and "rescue" Obama from Super Tuesday defeat. His dream of at least five years ended just a few days ago. He deserves time to come to terms with that.

Thanks for showing that Obamite charm!
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:39 PM
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9. His dithering is comical, his key supporters are flocking to Obama
at least they aren't letting ambition get in the way of their principles. Or maybe at least they have real principles.

Here's a partial list:

SEIU California
Peter Rousselot, Arlington County Democratic Committee, VA
California Senator Leland Yee (D-San Francisco/San Mateo)
U.S. Rep. Jim Oberstar (D-MN)
The Transport Workers Union
U.S. Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz.
Senate President Richard J. Codey, D-Essex, NJ
Patricia Madrid, former state attorney general, NM
Jenny Durkan, 2004 and 2008 Edwards co-chair in WA
Plus four Edwards delegates in NY: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/4-edwards-delegates-throw-support-to-obama/


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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:59 PM
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10. Ironic. Speaking of ambition, what do all of those states have in common?
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:01 PM
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11. Washington votes on Tuesday?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:03 PM
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14. They all have primaries coming up soon
Ambition. Maybe they want to get on the Obama bandwagon so they can reap the benefits after the primary? It would do nothing for someone in California or New York to endorse him after the California and New York primaries. These endorsements are driven by ambition. ;)
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:07 PM
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17. Whereas not endorsing is an act of high principle
I get it.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:10 PM
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22. Who's made that argument?
Speaking of endorsements, principle, Barack is a strong believer in the Democratic Party. Will he put principle ahead of ambition and drop out to allow the party to unite if he gets creamed on Super Tuesday? Reportedly even Mitt Romney is considering doing this.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:17 PM
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That's funny
Feb. 5 might go slightly more to Clinton in terms of delegates, but he will do very well the rest of February in places like WA, VA, MD, and WI. She'll still be nowhere near what she needs in terms of delegates before March 4.

What's your rush? Don't like a contest?

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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:24 PM
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30. He shouldn't quit
But if we are talking about putting principle before ambition giving up a likely losing fight (if my scenario of him getting creamed occurs. I personally think we'll see a 60/40 split with Obama winning in red states, which will give him a chance to argue electability.) sooner rather than later is better for the party. Even Mitt Romney is considering dropping out after Super Tuesday. That would allow the rethugs to begin uniting while Obama drags this out to March, perhaps April, and maybe all the way to the convention.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:30 PM
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32. Settle in, my friend
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 05:35 PM by BeyondGeography
and lose the Obama/Romney comparisons; they are completely irrelevant. Republican primaries are winner-take-all; ours are proportional. A 60/40 split for a Republican is a lot more damaging than a 60/40 split for a Democrat.

The voters will decide when they've had enough, and they're having too much fun right now.

And, oh yeah, Romney's broke and someone just raised $32 million in January.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:35 PM
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35. It will probably be 60/40 in delegates for the rethugs too
Romney will mirror Obama in that he will win most small states while McCain will win the big ones. Neither should quit if it is 60/40. Now if it somehow becomes 70/30...
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:42 PM
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38. If Romney loses California, he gets nothing
even if he loses by four points. If Obama loses California by four points he'll get 45% or so of the delegates.

That's another way of saying you're wrong. Romney and Obama inhabit different planets right now.

Now please come back to earth.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 06:05 PM
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40. Romney will win more states than McCain
I predict he will win a greater number of states than McCain, although the big states will mostly go to McCain. When it is all said and done I expect something like a 60/40 split in favor of McCain. Two big states Romney should win are Massachusetts and Georgia. New York, New Jersey, Illinois and probably California will be solidly in McCain's column.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 06:13 PM
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43. Bull Crap
We already know some who like Edwards but thought he couldn't win, went to the REpublican Party, Any one with a lick of sense would know Edwards supporters by 75% will go Clinton.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 06:46 PM
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44. I look forward to your list of prominent Edwards supporters now backing Hillary
Mr. Bullcrap.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:15 PM
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8. Hold your cards close to your chest, John.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:02 PM
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12. I hope he endorses no one...
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emmadoggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:14 PM
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26. Me too.
Like Jackson_Dem pointed out - who have the other former candidates endorsed?? Is anyone screaming for them to endorse? John JUST dropped out. Why should he have to come right out and endorse anyone?

No way - there's no need for you to endorse, John!
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:03 PM
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13. A complete and total lack of political courage
a blatantly transparent skeletal grasp at the VP. I hope the eventual winner snubs him but good.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:04 PM
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15. Will Obama endorse Hillary after losing on Super Tuesday?
If he truly believed in the Democratic Party he would give up and allow the party to unite instead of dragging this out in a losing effort? Right? ;)
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:08 PM
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20. Absolutely... she will probably make him VP (nt)
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:14 PM
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25. There is no way Obama is quitting after Super Tuesday
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:26 PM
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31. If it's impossible for him to win he will (nt)
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:06 PM
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16. Idiot.
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:09 PM
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21. My candidate didn't quit before the fight... yours did (nt)
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:12 PM
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23. Which was good for the party
Taking it all the way to the convention while the rethugs united for months would have been horrible for the party. It would have been good for Edwards but bad for the party and hence the nation. Edwards put principle over ambition with his decision. Will Barack if it becomes clear he won't be the nominee? Or will he take his $132 million and drag this out as long as possible as the party gets divided?
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:08 PM
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18. Do what you want to, John.
We are behind you.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:08 PM
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19. Just seems like he's playing games at this point...
Guess the others didn't cut him the deal he's looking for.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:13 PM
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24. Like Biden, Dodd, Kucinich, and Richardson?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:17 PM
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28. They're all playing it safe in hopes of a job...
Looks like Edwards is playing that same game.

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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:22 PM
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29. There is 0 chance Kucinich will be appointed to anything
Dodd also has a very small chance. Richardson is reportedly considering endorsing Clinton but note the timing. It would be about a month after he dropped out. He didn't do it two days afterwards. No one days, except for Giuliani and it is very transparent that he is doing it to try to get on the ticket. Biden is the only one who fits your description but perhaps Biden simply doesn't have a preference between the two? It isn't like they are completely different.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:31 PM
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33. Whatever the others are doing, Edwards obviously...
...has much more sway over his supporters ~ I find it a bit disappointing that he's playing the usual political games.

Obama said in an interview (aired last night on msnbc or cnn) that he's not working with Edwards on a deal for an administration post. Apparently Clinton isn't either.

As an Edwards supporter until SC, I couldn't care less who he thinks I should vote for.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:36 PM
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37. If they are neither would admit it publicly
It would diminish the importance of any endorsement he gave. There is also nothing to indicate Edwards is asking for a cabinet position. All we know right now is he is asking them to incorporate more of his platform (the parts they haven't already adopted...) into theirs.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:17 PM
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27. Sounds good to me
As I recall, Al Gore hasn't endorsed anyone either.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 06:47 PM
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45. I hope he never endorses either of them. nt
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