Obama campagined equating FUNDING with IRAQ WAR SUPPORT. Once elected, FUNDED WAR.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/739563,CST-NWS-sweet14.article

PAHRUMP, Nev. -- When Barack Obama was running for a U.S. Senate seat from Illinois in 2004, he filled out a questionnaire for the Chicago Sun-Times answering "no" to this question: Would you have voted for the $87 billion supplemental appropriation for Iraq and Afghanistan?

Once elected to the Senate, Obama voted for a series of war funding measures, as did chief rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.).

aid Rubin, "There is nothing unique about his Iraq war position except a speech he made that he never followed through on."

Later, Obama was asked why he cast those war funding votes.

"Once we had our troops two years into a war, it was important that we try to do the best possible job on it," Obama said.

[tekisui]

1. Is this the same Proud?

[agdlp]

2. Obama March 2, 2007: My plan allows for a limted number of troops to remain in Iraq

That is why I advocate a phased redeployment of U.S. troops out of Iraq to begin no later than May first with the goal of removing all combat forces from Iraq by March 2008.

In a civil war where no military solution exists, this redeployment remains our best leverage to pressure the Iraqi government to achieve the political settlement between its warring factions that can slow the bloodshed and promote stability.

My plan also allows for a limited number of U.S. troops to remain and prevent Iraq from becoming a haven for international terrorism and reduce the risk of all-out chaos.
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http://usliberals.about.com/od/extraordinaryspeeches/a/ObamaIsrael_2.htm

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But what is a limited number ?
What kind of forces ?
What kind of situations should US forces engage ?
How long should they be there ?

[agdlp]

4. Obama On Iraq War Vote, 2006

"So it’s not clear to me what differences we’ve had since I’ve been in the Senate. I think what people might point to is our different assessments of the war in Iraq, although I’m always careful to say that I was not in the Senate, so perhaps the reason I thought it was such a bad idea was that I didn’t have the benefit of U.S. intelligence. And, for those who did, it might have led to a different set of choices. So that might be something that sort of is obvious. But, again, we were in different circumstances at that time: I was running for the U.S. Senate, she had to take a vote, and casting votes is always a difficult test." -The New Yorker, 10/30/06-

[Windy]

3. As a former military member, I could not vote to cut off funding and leave our troops without what

they need. We have a NUT in the whitehouse who has no problem using them as political pawns.

These men and women have suffered enough for this mistake.

We need a new president with the resolve to get them out quickly and safely and the ability to negotiate with other nations to get the assistance needed to stablize Iraq without a US presence.

We need to get bush the hell out of the whitehouse and get diplomacy working again.

I'm more concerned about voting for someone who has shown that she has no problem authorizing a "preemptive" (although there was nothing to pre-empt) war of choice than I am voting for someone who votes to keep the troops in body armour and decent equipment until we can get them out!

[ErnestoG]

6. No person with a heart would.

But clearly many Hillarites lack that and a brain too. Half the Wizard of Oz team nixed on that one....

[Proud2BAmurkin]

9. THen we have two heartless candidates here

[Proud2BAmurkin]

8. He's done that too now, so has Clinton

[ErnestoG]

5. night shift, huh P2BA?

how many repetetive and moronic threads can we look forward to tonight?

[tekisui]

14. Sometimes they write differently at different times, I've noticed.

[moondust]

7. Everything changes when the boots hit the ground.

Even people like Joe Biden argued that without the funding the troops would not get the better armored vehicles they needed, etc. Without the political will to redeploy there wasn't much choice but to support the troops as necessary.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

10. Agree but Obama campaigned on the idea that Funding = pro war

[jasmine621]

12. You mean the same Biden that voted "yes" on the IWR? nt

[moondust]

13. So much for experience, eh?

[Joe the Revelator]

11. Voting to fund the troops that Hillary put in harms way?

Thats some excuse their Proud. :eyes: