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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:28 PM
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Nader's coming. Yes, I'm serious.
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 11:29 PM by WilliamPitt
President Nader? Maybe third time's the charm

It just wouldn't be a presidential election in the roaring '00s without Ralph Nader, would it? Nader ran in 2000 as the Green Party nominee and as an independent in 2004. He was blamed in some quarters for former Vice President Al Gore's narrow loss to George W. Bush in 2000, and so when he announced plans for 2004, he inspired howls of rage -- even outright pleading -- from liberals and Democrats. Now he's thinking of running again.

Nader and his supporters have formed an exploratory committee, are preparing to file papers with the Federal Election Committee and have launched a Web site. Nader has told various reporters that he will spend the next month gathering volunteers and staff and deciding whether or not to run. His decision will reportedly hinge on whether he feels he can raise $10 million and get enough free legal help to secure ballot access.

Via Salon's 'War Room' blog: http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/01/30/nader/index.html

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NaderExplore2008.org: http://www.naderexplore08.org/index.html

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Via ABC News today:

Ralph Nader Flirts with Presidential Bid
With Harsh Words for Current Field, Nader Says Candidacy as Urgent as Ever

By RICK KLEIN
Jan. 30, 2008

Ralph Nader has formed a presidential exploratory committee, and said in an interview Wednesday that he will launch another presidential bid if he's convinced he can raise enough money to appear on the vast majority of state ballots this fall.

Nader, who ran as an independent candidate in each of the past three presidential elections, told ABCNews.com that he will run in 2008 if he is convinced over the next month that he would be able to raise $10 million over the course of the campaign — and attract enough lawyers willing to work free of charge to get his name on state ballots.

Nader said he established an exploratory committee and launched a Web site after Dennis Kucinich, a liberal Ohio congressman, announced his decision to withdraw from the presidential race last week. He was set to announce that he had formed an exploratory committee Wednesday, even before former Sen. John Edwards made it known that he'd be ending his candidacy. But with Edwards — who has made economic populism and ending poverty cornerstones of his campaign — leaving the Democratic field, Nader said, he feels his candidacy is more urgent than ever.

"When Kucinich threw in the towel, now you have Edwards gone — who's going to carry the torch of democratic populism against the relentless domination of powerful corporations of our government?" Nader said. "You can't just brush these issues to the side because the candidates are ignoring them."

He has harsh words for the leading Democratic candidates, Sen. Hillary Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama, chastising them for failing to advance aggressive plans to tax corporations more fairly, and to fight for a vastly higher minimum wage. Obama, he said, is a particular disappointment, since his background suggests that he knows the importance of progressive issues yet hasn't fought for them in the Senate. "His record in the Senate is pretty mediocre," Nader said. "His most distinctive characteristic is the extent to which he censors himself. He hasn't performed as a really progressive first-term senator would."

More: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4215961&page=1

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:31 PM
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1. Give us a break.
Jesus H.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:32 PM
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2. *sighs*
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 11:36 PM by Trajan
Given the level of cynical mistrust here .... A Nader juggernaut would be the icing on the cake ...

I can see it now: No matter WHO wins, the discontented supporters of the also-rans will be running to Nader in mock protest ...... Screaming and yelling all the way .....

Nice to see you Will ..... Hope all is well ...
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:32 PM
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3. Ugh- How could anyone vote for that egomaniac?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:33 PM
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4. Would he stay out of the race if the Democrats nominated Karl Marx?
What a cocksucking pile of shit.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:33 PM
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5. For Nader, I only have not just one middle finger but two...
with which to salute him.
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:34 PM
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6. A million Iraqis were murdered
but at least Ralph made his point...
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:36 PM
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7. Is he still alive? What a tragic waste of oxygen....
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:36 PM
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8. Oh for
fucks sake.

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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:36 PM
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9. I'm thinkin patellae
I'm thinkin Louisville Slugger.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:47 PM
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20. Oh, dear.
A bat didn't even occur to me. When I think of Ralph, I'm suddenly transformed into the darling of the NRA.

Fortunately, it's only in my bloody mind.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:38 PM
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10. Your surprised by this, matching funds are like a light is for a moth. n/t
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:38 PM
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11. Does this sack of feces have any idea how loathsome he really is?
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:39 PM
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12. While I still hold him accountable for Gore's loss in 2000 ...
I'm not ready to dismiss him yet.

Given the line of crap we were fed in 2006 - change/accountability/new direction - none of which has materialized, maybe the ONLY way the people will ever be afforded a 'fair shake' is through a third party.

And, while Nader would not be my first choice, I will gladly support an Edwards and/or Gore third party candidacy.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:40 PM
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13. .....
:mad:
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:40 PM
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14. he'd struggle to get on the ballot in many states, I'd think
without the Green Party backing.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:42 PM
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15. So what, he's fucking irrelevant...
If you're that worried, then you must not have much faith in the Dem nominee. Nader is a one note has-been, and besides, Ron Paul sucked off a lot of his support. Traction, he gets none. For shame, Will.... *shakes head*
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:43 PM
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16. Hopefully he will backfire and sop up the old man vote from going to McCain
For that old fart that refuses to vote for a woman or minority. Becoming tangled in their own web perhaps.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:44 PM
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17. Nader voters probably wouldn't vote at all if Nader wasn't running.
Listened to any of the Green's "Struggle of the People's this & that" that Pacifica entertains on their programs? Those people have no interest any anything but anarchy.
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GaYellowDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:45 PM
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18. FUCK NADER.
Fuck him. If that son of a bitch had endorsed Gore in 2000, it wouldn't have been close enough in Florida for the Bushes to steal it. His fucking ego wouldn't allow it, though, and when you look for Bush enablers, Nader only comes in second to the media. And now that same ego can't even realize his complete and utter irrelevance. If he really cared about the populist message instead of his ego, he would have already endorsed Kucinich or Edwards, or at the least complained about their marginalization by the media.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 12:11 AM
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21. He did, he said he wouldn't run if Edwards was in n/t
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jzodda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:46 PM
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19. Usually this would get me all angry
but in all honesty Nader is a joke now, a punchline and somebody to be mocked. Let em run as he has little chance of getting the kind of support he got previous, and the media will all but ignore the guy.
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