ANOTHER Hillary surrogate just compared Obama to Jesse Jackson

[Joe the Revelator]

Willie Brown just did it again on MSNBC. These people have NO shame

[Joe the Revelator]

1. I'm going to kick this, because it was so fucking brazen

[Tellurian]

19. Is anyone in the Obama camp capable of stating a complete thought in the form of a summary?

in their OP. A good example of what I'm talking about is when you are looking for a movie on the NetFlix site...They provide a summary of what the movie is about within a paragraph of 30 words or less.

[Tellurian]

2. I don't get it. What is the comparison?

They both WON South Carolina?

[EffieBlack]

39. There have been 5 primaries since Rev. Jackson won

Why not mention the winner of one of those (especially since Jackson didn't win a SC primary - it was a caucus then).

If someone wants to point out that a win in SC doesn't guarantee the nomination, why not use John Edwards as the example? Using Jesse Jackson as the comparison is a somewhat suspect.

[bellasgrams]

3. What's wrong with Jesse Jackson?

[cali]

6. It's an attempt to marginalize him

by making him the black candidate instead of a candidate who happens to be black. And it's disgusting. The Clintons have been called on it repeatedly.

[billbuckhead]

17. So Jesse Jackson wasn't a candidate that just happened to be black?

The Rainbow coalition was just a lie?

[cali]

43. Jackson never had a chance because he was perceived by

white America as "too black" He was NEVER seen as a candidate who transcended race. He got single digit white support in SC even though he won the state. I'm happy to say I voted for him here in Vermont and that he won my state. Hell, he even won the Northeast Kingdom where I live. But that's Vermont and we're a little bit different than you flatlanders.

[rodeodance]

58. JJ said he was NOT offended by Bill C. comments in SC--!!!

[Joe the Revelator]

7. It fits Hillary's startegy of casting Obama as...

"the black candidate".

[LiberalHeart]

16. You mean like she's being cast as the female candidate?

[bellasgrams]

22. wait a minute Hillary didn't call him JJ, wasn't the guy that did,a

black man? I just don't get what you people are so upset with. The only thing I've heard about JJ is that he had a love child. It's to bad for his wife but it's not unusual. It certainly is something that Dems. should be able to get over.

[rodeodance]

53. the Poster has lots of problems with who said what many times

[rodeodance]

52. gee, is he? And what RW'er put the silly notion in your brain that its her strategy?

[Colobo]

9. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton- Blacks that White America will never trust.

[billbuckhead]

15. This Rezko scandal makes me want to compare Obama to Bill Campbell

[EffieBlack]

40. Which is why people keep trying to link Obama with them in the minds of white voters. nt

Very transparent.

[jasmine621]

21. Mayor Brown actually was giving Obama credit for raising excitement

about the campaign and bringing new voters into the fold JUST AS JESSE JACKSON DID IN 1984. He gave Jesse Jackson credit for helping the Dems win back the congress in 1986.

You folks are just sick. I knew this was going to happen.

there was absolutely nothing wrong with what Mayor Brown said. You Obama supporters who raise this as a racial slur are the one who are marginalizing Jesse Jackson and black voters.

[Catherine Vincent]

37. Read Post #21 Wolsh.

You really should.

[TeamJordan23]

4. Will they apologize tomorrow, like they usually do. nm

[bellasgrams]

11. I thought Jackson was well liked that it was his son that had

issues.

[usregimechange]

5. Say anything to get elected...

[rodeodance]

55. yes, Obama will do anything to win.

[BlueStateGirl]

8. Has Willie Brown endorsed Sen. Clinton? Is he working for her?

I thought he was going to be working as a commentator for MSNBC?

[Joe the Revelator]

14. He was on as her surrogate on MSNBC

[BlueStateGirl]

30. Weird. He is not working for her campaign, and according to an

article I read on here earlier today, he has not endorsed, because it would be damaging to his credibility as an analyst.

[Joe the Revelator]

32. Well it was him against an Obama supporter

Either he's already endorsed or is doing everything but.

[GoldieAZ49]

60. He did say he like the Clintons but

was voting for Obama in an interview before SC

[BlueStateGirl]

61. So, I guess he not a Clinton surrogate.

[billbuckhead]

10. Jesse Jackson was a strong candidate. Got something against the Rainbow Coalition??

Why are :tinfoilhat:bama Nation upset about being compared to the Reverend Jackson?

[FrenchieCat]

12. That's cause Willie Brown is a giant asshole......

and that's talking from the fact that I know him personally. :eyes:

He's jealous of Obama's success. that is all.

[JI7]

28. i can't stand him

he is just the type that is part of the Clinton circle with the big egos like Carville.

[jenmito]

13. I saw that. I couldn't believe it. But Keith and Chris let it slide.

[DURHAM D]

18. What no faux outrage at the racism.

Oh wait - its a black guy talking.

Maybe he knows more about what is racist and what isn't than those two stupid white guys

[Bluebear]

20. What's wrong with Jesse Jackson?

[debatepro]

25. He didn't win!!!

... that is why they are making the comparison... to minimize the momentum out of SC... also there is some implicate intricacy tied up with Jessie Jackson... the name the person... some people don't like him... hoping some of that might rub off on obama... probably not going to work.... keep on spinning though!

[Bluebear]

31. I'm not spinning shit, I asked what was wrong with Jesse Jackson as the OP claims

[EffieBlack]

42. Why not compare him to John Edwards?

A much more apt comparison - just four years ago, both won the SC primary (as opposed to a caucus, which is what Rev. Jackson won) and Edwards didn't get the nomination afterward.

Let me guess . . .

[okasha]

26. Nothing.

He was a strong candidate who won several states and was able to influence the Dem platform significantly even though he didn't get the nomination. I voted for him, and despite his personal failings, I still admire his work.

[UALRBSofL]

46. That's a good question

I like him and admire him for starting the rainbow coalition. In my opinion I think it's the OP's insecurity that brings out the worst in him.

[BenDavid]

23. I wrote earlier concerning this non issue, but here it is again

for all you obama folks.When did it become racist to mention political history when talking political history? I saw the exact clip, but not the comments before and after. If some reporters ran up to Clinton and said, "Ha ha, your wife couldn't even win Carolina, what do you have to say about that, Mr. Politics?" and his reply was, "Jesse won Carolina TWICE and he's not president, so maybe winning Carolina isn't the great springboard you guys claim it is." NOW HOW IS THAT RACIAL? And who in Carolina doesn't know Jesse Jackson is black?

What nobody is mentioning is the undeniable slap at Jackson. "Don't you DARE compare Obama to Jesse," as tho Jesse was another Willie Horton. Makes one wonder how ashamed is the Black community of Jesse Jackson?

So is this the same Willie Brown that was mayor of San Francisco? What? Now blacks are racists in the eyes of obama folks?

[rodeodance]

56. thanks for you post.

[sjdnb]

24. Obama is NO Jesse ...

In 1965, Jesse Jackson participated in the Selma to Montgomery marches organized by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and other civil rights leaders in Alabama.

Obama was four years old and, I believe, in Hawaii.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

27. So? Jesse Jackson is a cool dude.

[Barack_America]

29. I've already offered the Clinton campaign the biggest shovel I have...

I don't know what else I can do for them.

[sfam]

33. This is a non-story. Brown's connection made sense. Clinton's did not.

Brown mentioned that both candidates brought people to the party who had never voted before. Clinton said that Obama won SC as the black candidate just like Jesse won as the black candidate. These are very different statements.

[Big Blue Marble]

34. I saw it .

After the Bill Jesse Jackson comment, why would Wille even go there?

It was a dicy moment.

[sfam]

38. I'm an Obama supporter..Brown's comments made perfect sense...lets not go insane here...

Truly, there is no reason to go insane with this stuff...the comment made perfect sense. Very few people have brought in vast numbers of new people to the process. Jackson was one of the last ones to do this. Barrack is clearly doing this now.

[Big Blue Marble]

45. I am not going insane.

I think it would have been better to have use an example than Jesse due to the sensitive nature

[sfam]

48. Common...Jesse is just not that sensitive...To Clinton maybe, but this is too far

If Obama tries to make something of this, OR the MSM, they will look foolish. Its a nonstory. Brown's comments made perfect sense in the context he used them.

I think Obama is the BOMB and dream of him winning, but I cannot for the life of me see anything wrong with what Brown said. I saw CLEARLY what was wrong with Clinton's comments.

[Joe the Revelator]

35. Its a clear pattern in their rhetoric.

[Joe the Revelator]

36. Why not compare him to Kennedy, or if you want to be backhanded, Goldwater

there is an agenda here. Keep pretending not to see it

[sfam]

41. Lets not make up an agenda...truly the comment made "sense"...like, it MADE SENSE

So any time Jackson is mentioned, all of us Obama supporters are supposed to jump up and down and scream our lungs out?

Puleeze. I watched it twice. It made perfect sense.

[EffieBlack]

44. Actually, that's not what Clinton said.

He said BEFORE the primary, "Jesse Jackson won South Carolina twice, in '84 and '88. And he ran a good campaign. Senator Obama's run a good campaign here, he’s run a good campaign everywhere."

This was a rather bizarre comparison since this wasn't a discussion about black candidates. It was odd that he linked the two together.

[sfam]

47. He said this on Saturday, when it was clear who had won. It was more than odd, it was...

an attempt to downplay the loss as a loss to a black candidate in a black state. He said similar things a few days earlier when he indicated that black folk were just gonna vote for their own regardless.

[EFerrari]

51. They are different. However, Obama did not run in SC

as the black candidate except in Clinton talking points.

[rodeodance]

59. JJ said Bills comments were not offensive

[UALRBSofL]

49. Has Willie Brown

Endorsed Hillary?

[jackson_dem]

50. Brown should apologize to Jackson

[sfam]

54. Brown should ignore you. n/t

[rodeodance]

57. Jessie Jackson is on record --said he did not find Bill Clintons comment offensive=

in SC.

Now--the IP is having a fit for a similar comment.