Will Kerry "moving to the center"

[Guaranteed]

Poll question: Will Kerry "moving to the center"

help him or hurt him?

[MurikanDemocrat]

1. Always tack to the center before the election for the swing votes,

then he'll probably go back to the left after.

[Guaranteed]

2. This election is about leadership.

He has to show strength. If he doesn't, he's going to lose.

[AntiCoup2K4]

3. Moving to the center??

And what the fuck was all his pro Bush, pro war, pro corporate votes for the last three years? For Kerry, moving to the center would be moving left

[NewYorkerfromMass]

18. compared to Bush ANYONE is center

get real.

[Deja Q]

4. We do not need another centrist

Corporate profits are now more important than people and the longevity of the world as we've created it?

Forgive me Lord, but maybe humanity doesn't deserve to survive after all. :cry:

Peak oil will prove it. Instead of coming together and work for shared survival, the countries will continue to draw lines in the sandbox known as "Earth" and throw sand into each others' eyes. Except the sand will be nuclear bombs, with every participant saying "Mine, mine, mine!!"

"Money is the root of all evil". Damn true and never truer than now. (edit: The late 60s generation and all they said. Seems they were 100% right. What happened... :-( )

And after the oil is gone, people will need to rely on each other, like we had to do at one point. What's that repuke philosophy again? "Self-reliance", "self-sufficiency", "'it takes a village' is a crock of shit", et al? Swift move, repukes and centrists... very swift. I have but one comment for the repukes in the end, but it's so horrendous I refuse to say it online. I will say the acronym, which is FYARAICB! You can probably guess most of it...

[Nimble_Idea]

6. hmm, do you even listen to john Kerry???

your too busy with blind passion, that you can't hear that Kerry is for energy independence with CLEAN energy

[Guaranteed]

8. He's not committed to it.

He has a couple of token few billion dollar ideas. NOTHING compared to what is needed.

Then, on the other hand, he has his progressive internationalism...the kinder, gentler, corporate machine-gun hand (to sustain the flow of oil, of course).

[Deja Q]

9. Excellent! And BTW,

I'm too busy with passion. I'm not blind. But sidetracked. Being sidetracked doesn't make a person blind. Unless you're driving with a coke in one hand, talking on a cell phone with the other, and manipulating the steering wheel using your knees or some other body part down there...

And it's "You're to busy..." O8) .

[tedzbear]

21. Better your passion than Mel's version...

Give me passion over cold, cynical politics any day. It's not about who wins, it's about who stands up for what they believe. That's how most of the big movements in the world began.

Think Buddha, Jesus, Mohamed, Gandhi, Lincoln, King...

:bounce:



Divine speaks from the great beyond: "Don't worry little children. The flutter of butterfly wings in San Francisco will annihilate ALL of Karl Rove's diabolical machinary..."

[AntiCoup2K4]

25. You would dare compare this corporate coward to

Buddha, Ghandi, MLK, and Jesus Christ???

What kind of drugs cause that kind of hallucination?? :crazy:

There are two historical figures Kerry does remind me of though...

Benedict Arnold and Judas Iscariot. Actually, just change the spelling in that last one.... IsKerryot. Yeah, that fits.

[cprise]

13. Oral wind energy

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[Guaranteed]

14. LOL nt

[Nimble_Idea]

5. It will help

He will be for ALL America, not like shrub who is just for the CRAZY people

[Deja Q]

7. Not crazy. Greedy, unethical, and amoral if not immoral are more apropos.

Shrub* is crazy, that much is proven.

Let's hope those unsure of Kerry are wrong in their beliefs, and that Kerry does change things around.

The ball is in his court and he's our final shot to change things around.

[lastknowngood]

10. If he moves any further to the "cneter" he'll be right next to the right

n/t

[messiah]

11. I thought he was in the "center" already?

[Guaranteed]

12. No, he was already a weak-kneed coward.

He grew some courage briefly, but now he's touting his support of the war again.

How do you feel about that?

[messiah]

16. How do you feel about that?

I feel sick and disgusted:mad: and a lot more of which I will not say.

[revcarol]

15. Moving to the center (actually 'way right)

is just a way to piss off your base, and make sure they stay home on election day.

We stupidly go after the supposed swing voters, while the right energizes their base and WINS.

We brought you to the dance. We expect you to go home with us.

[tedzbear]

17. Kerry is already too centered for my taste...

He turned into a Bush follower these last three years compared to his previous decades when he was much more liberal. Too bad.

:kick:

[David Zephyr]

19. How Can One Move to a Place One Already Is?

John Kerry is probably smack dab in the very middle of the American political mainstream. It is actually George W. Bush who is not in "the center" and is, rather, on the radical right-wing fringe.

I think one of the good things about Ralph Nader running is that it will keep Kerry and his campaign worried and anxious to protect their base from an insurgency from the Left. This will keep him from the following: 1.) needlessly pandering to so-call independent, yet conservative voters, and 2.) wasting time and money in futility to win many of the Southern states that are simply out of reach.

Here's a little factoid: With the change in demographics within the nation in the last 4 years alone, Al Gore would now have won the election by a shockingly wider margin than he did. This is a direct result of population growth within minority communities and with a dying of older, white (conservative) voters.

When nearly half of all eligible voters don't vote, the gold is to be found mining there, not pandering to religiously backward people who are stubborn in their soup of racism, sexism, xenophobia, faux-patriotism, homophobia, militarism and superstition.

John Kerry can remain John Kerry and win. Here's how:

1.) By choosing Wes Clark as his running mate, Kerry would then have both Clark and Bill Clinton together helping deliver Arkansas whose electoral votes would make winning Florida not even necessary should the rest of the states fall in the same pattern as they did in 2000 (which they are likely to do). And lest the John Edwards crowd complain, check out how close the Gore/Bush vote was in Arkansas compared to that in North Carolina (Bush beat Gore 51% to 45% in Arkansas with a 50,000 vote margin as compared to Bush beating Gore in North Carolina 56% to 43% with nearly a 600,000 vote margin). Cherry-pick Arkansas and forget trying to win North Carolina.

2.) Then concentrate away from the South, besides Arkansas, Louisiana and Florida. Work Missouri, West Virginia, Arizona and Nevada.

Pandering to the right will not help John Kerry one bit. It will make him look opportunistic at best and silly at worst. Pandering to the right-wing will also only further the cause of Nader and alienate those on the Left who would still like to vote for him.

--DZ

[Nazgul35]

20. blurring the distinction....

between the two candidates would only help Bush and hurt Kerry....

Bush already has the job....Kerry has to show the nation that he has a better vision for America...

He can not coast to victory...that would be death for the Dems chances in the general....

Bush's polls are coming down because we...the Dems...are making them come down!!!!

ATTACK....ATTACK...ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!

If he fails to understand what happened in the primaries (what got all those independents and republicans to come out and vote)...start practicing saying Pres. Bush for four more years...

[Guaranteed]

22. That's exactly right.

Exactly right. He has to make a clear distinction, and concede NOTHING to Bush.

[DrFunkenstein]

23. "They're Extreme, We're Mainstream"

Kerry learned in Iowa that speaking from the gut is much more important than specific positions.

Especially when they include health coverage, strong education, energy independence, balancing the budget, closing tax loopholes, and creating a strong economic environment.

[Guaranteed]

24. Isn't it commonly accepted that the war was

a bad idea now?

[GreenArrow]

26. apparently it doesn't matter

if you look at the vote totals of the candidates who were right about the war, you'll find that you can usually count them on one hand.