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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:24 PM
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The MEDIA are PICKING our candidate and DIVIDING our party. & our country!
I'm damn sick and tired of Chris Matthews, Tim Russet and his ban of (merry men) BIAS Obama supporters or Hillary haters! EVERY guest was an Obama supporter and a BILL hater and they all took turns racking him over the coals. It was even said that Bill was so angry he was frothing at the mouth. :puke: His guests only included Obama supporters...not balanced with a single Clinton supporter! Why is that?

Folks! THE MEDIA ARE PICKING OUT OUR PRESIDENT AND DIVIDING OUR PARTY! :scared: They are resuming their hatred of Bill from the old days when they bashed him 24/7. Not ONE person in the MSM is pro-Clinton. Not one! Not one person in the media is anti-Obama. Not one person EVER criticizes him! How is that fair? :shrug Obama has absolutely NO experience dealing with criticism. How's he going to handle the Right wing attack machine? :shrug:

The only criticism he's ever had to face is that his stance on the war was questionable ie. a fairytale and that MLK AND LBJ were both responsible for Civil rights and the elephant in the room was that Obama was black (like we didn't know!) The Clintons are shameful for telling us that secret. Besides I feel Obama has always run as a black man (why a wouldn't he?) and wanted people to see him as another MLK and wanted it both ways himself. Isn't that playing the race card himself? If anyone can tell me he wasn't aiming for the black vote and constantly reminding people that he was black...then I have huge concrete bridge to sell ya.

Mind you...so save your breath...I don't feel that is a criticism of Obama. It's just a fact! How can a black man not appeal to black voters and for him to want their vote? That's politics and human nature! What BOTHERS me is that the Clintons are being blamed/bashed mercilessly for using the race card and I'm sorry but THAT JUST ISN'T FAIR OR TRUE. It was bound to happen someday...actually IMHO it had ALREADY happened and no one wanted to talk to the elephant in the room. It was easier to not feed him until the opportune moment. Now they are all jabbing the poor thing with pitchforks and running for cover.(I guess they think he reprresents the Republican party)

Remember, I haven't been critical of Obama in this post. I will HAPPILY vote for him...I'm just saying the race card was bound to be sprung like a mouse trap and now our heads are caught up in it to our necks.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:26 PM
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1. Everyone here HATES Tweety and Russert
Except this week, now that they are flaying Bill alive (or trying to).

--p!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:28 PM
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3. I don't watch TV
and the crap in the OP is exactly why. Hard to argue that the media picked Obama for me, however.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:33 PM
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8. Yup.
Bill Clinton has some nerve trying to become First Lady. That's a woman's job. Notice that they don't treat him as a man anymore? Just some crawling thing that doesn't know its place?
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:49 PM
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14. I noticed that too.
They have no respect for him as he's just another spouse sticking up for their own spouse. Oh what a crime for an x-president! He's disgraced his office! Mercy me! (Sorry Mercy me...no offense.) Isn't that what a spouse is suppose to do...fight as hard as he can. He's not defending her as a president! This is all temporary till a candidate is chosen and then he'll revert back to a senior statesman, philanthropist and world leader.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:10 PM
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45. You should have added the Rep Party picking and paying for
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:33 PM
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55. k&r
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:54 PM
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58. No, not everyone here hates Tweety and Russert. nt
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:27 PM
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2. AB, its called setting the Dems up for a fall.

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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:29 PM
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4. The corporate media are building up Obama.
If he gets the nomination, they will tear him down, big time.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:31 PM
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6. Doubt it.
I really do think they are simply enthralled. Supporting Obama makes them feel all clean and pure inside.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:39 PM
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10. I agree that the
GOP corporate media is pushing Obama for the purpose of knocking the Clintons out of the race.

HOWEVER, they may be unleashing a "monster" they cannot control when this is said and done. Perhaps the American People collectively ARE ready for change? Perhaps the American People are ready to take a step and elect someone of the younger generation; and yes, someone other than a white male.

This could get very interesting, indeed.

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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:47 PM
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12. Have we got anybody of the younger generation running on either side?
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 01:48 PM by Benhurst
All are Babyboomers or older, whether they admit it or not.

The truth is always the first to go. Bullshit rules.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:52 PM
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15. Obama is a baby boomer?
Didn't know that.... :shrug:

He's 45. That doesn't make him a baby boomer.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:21 PM
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19. Barack Obama was born on August 4, 1961. According to the U.S. Census Bureau,
Baby Boomers are the generation born between 1946 and 1964. Obama may be a somewhat youngish Baby Boomer, but a Baby Boomer nonetheless.

If "the torch is going to be passed," it won't be during this election cycle.

Such symbolism is meaningless at best; but when based on an outright lie, it becomes silly and pathetic.



http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/facts_for_features_special_editions/006105.html






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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:56 PM
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44. Gee, I'm sorry, Benhurst.
I wasn't intentionally lying and I don't think I referenced "the torch being passed."

Please forgive my "silly and pathetic" post. :eyes:

by the way, I am not an Obama supporter.

Thanks for the clarification, though.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:23 PM
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63. I sorry if you thought I was referring to you. I meant to direct my remarks to his
organization which is pushing the generational differences and the passing of the torch. Since Obama is a Baby Boomer as are other candidates, it is a pathetic attempt on their to appeal to the cult of youth, and a silly one at that.

:hi:

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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 06:37 AM
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75. Ok.
I didn't realize he was indeed a baby boomer. My bad.

:hi:
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 02:18 PM
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17. I agree with that excellent observation and interpretation.
As soon as we have Obama as our candidate...then Tweety and the rest of his like minded flunkies will support McCain and constantly degrade Obama as not having foreign policy experience, actually hardly any experience, and the Dems will be fatally fractured. I can just imagine what they will say now. I don't think Obama would have a chance to beat McCain...even if the war took a sudden turn for the worse. He's a war hero after all when Obama's mother was wiping him behind his ears. I can only see Obama beating him if he wants to invade Iran and so far I haven't seen ant evidence that he doesn't.
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:26 PM
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68. He did say other wars
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/27/mccain-warns-there-will_n_83459.html
Sen. John McCain told a crowd of supporters on Sunday, "It's a tough war we're in. It's not going to be over right away. There's going to be other wars." Offering more of his increasingly bleak "straight talk," he repeated the claim: "I'm sorry to tell you, there's going to be other wars. We will never surrender but there will be other wars."


Let the media push Obama. He has a strong base. When the media tries to pull out the rug most people will already have a positive impression.
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shimmergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 02:53 PM
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18. Exactly my worry, too.
Having marginalized John Edwards, they're now well on thir way trying to re-demonize Hillary and Bill. (I can't forget their near-unanimity during the 90's; the MSM was sure the American people 1. should and 2. would be so outraged over the Monica Lewinsky affair that they demand Bill Clinton's impeachment & conviction.)

If they succeed in this redemonization and Obama ends up the nominee, I predict they'll first try to gauge whether submerged racism will be enough to sink him in the General. If there's any doubt, they'll reverse course on the free ride, and attack him viciously. Either way, they're trying to set up things for another Democratic defeat.

I got so upset watching MSNBC that I had to switch channels and watch the figure skating show. Balm for the eyes and mind, with all those graceful young skaters doing amazing things! Actually Pat Buchanan--of all people-- was the only one in the pundit lineup to try to bring some balance into the discussion. Ackkk!
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:42 PM
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48. You can be sure they will try.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:30 PM
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5. Don't be ridiculous. The MSM wants Hillary.
Isn't that what the Obama people kept telling us so he could be the underdog? So it would be okay to say slimy filthy things about her?



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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:37 PM
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9. The gullible fall for it it seems.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:46 PM
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21. They sure had that one wrong
Hillary was never getting favorable treatment from the media in the first place. The Hillary haters claimed she was and it was all a plot to make her the nominee so she could be beaten in November. It turned out Obama gets all the good press. Does that prove anything?
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 04:29 PM
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32. Yep! Prove the corp. media think they can beat him.
However they may live to regret it. I'd rather have them live to regret Hillary. She (and Bill) will bite their asses off and feed them to their dogs. Yum, yum!
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:27 PM
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65. well THIS is pretty MSM-

You guys keep pretending this meeting and Murdoch's pledge of support ever took place.

It absolutely bankrupts any claims to the contrary.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:33 PM
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7. I agree about the media choosing people's candidates. Makes me sick.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:44 PM
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11. Don't you think the corporate media
and their comptrollers are just throwing America a bone? The script is to carry Obama through the primary. I think it has yet to be decided if they will carry him through the general. A calculation will be made in June or July.

If it looks like the natives are no longer restless then the shit storm for Obama will begin. If we are still wound up they will keep to the script through the general.


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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:47 PM
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13.  Absolutely .
Even if people don't watch TV the one who do are calling shows and talking to people repeating what the MSM has to say . This crap is brought here and on other blobs and sold as truth .

The only way to get truth is to look at voting records and their past and even then you won't get to the deep truth but you have at least some sort of idea who you are voting for .

People have to know that most people get their news from the damn TV set , these things are everywhere , in malls , in office waiting rooms , any and all waiting rooms , homes , you name it the TV is everywhere all the time 24/7 and most are tuned into FOX and the ones that are not are tuned to some other corporate owned and controlled media .
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:54 PM
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16. The media was pushing Hillary as inevitable for a year.
Now they're making up for their mistake. People are choosing Obama. He is winning votes and he has the most small donors.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:55 PM
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26. You have it exactly right, the MEDIA were pushing HRC...The
media were the ones out there shouting "inevitiable" not the clinton campaign.The media in their zeal knew as the primaries moved closer they in-turn began a negative hit job on HRC. As reported by those folks that watch the news and how they present their stories found that HRC was receiving about 70% negative wheras obama was receiving about the same in positive reporting. The media did everything in iowa in going negative against hrc....this began on Oct 30 2007 and over this period of time till the end of the year were so blantant in their negative reporting it seemed to not matter.......

After Iowa the media in their zest to report the clinton campaign was dead in the water. Going to fold up. Going to revamp their campaign and bring in new people....On and on it went after Iowa....The media were so focused on reporting the death of the hrc presidential run they left hrc to do her thing in New Hampshire and she won, and the mediawhores were embarassed and then tried their best to blame the pollsters......

After New Hampshire it was the same mediawhores that reported obama should be a big winner in nevada because of the endorsements of the 60,000 culinary union support...on and on it went as the mediawhores predicting obama, obama ....Or as the obama faithful were saying....JUST WHEN ALL HOPE WAS LOST OUR NOBLE SAVIOUR HAS ARRIVED....A funny thing happened in nevada and the press began their hit job on the clintons with the issue of race, race and race......They completely forgot about another proud race of people..uh huh the hispanics and these proud people showed their support for hrc and then these mediawhores did not know what to do with that voting block....I know what we should do the mediawhores thought....maybe we can play up the clintons anti king remarks and Bills anti obama remarks(even though there were none in both clintons case) and the mediawhores did that and showed anyone that wanted to say anything negative have the mic and blast the clintons......knowing all this was false the mediawhores did not care...Obama was their man and they would do anything to help.....

Then we come to South Carolina...The mediawhores still pounding and pounding the clinton as the campaign moved into south carolina.. The mediawhores were not going to let the clinton message get out to the folks of south carolina. They were intent to do anything, say anything and find some silly sombitch has been dem leader in s.c tht compared Bill Clinton to the racist Lee Atwater. Yes, the mediawhores ran with that story over and over and especially into the black community. Oh my my, blacks were now turning their backs on the man and woman they had admired so much, but the mediawhores and the obama campaign were feeding this big elephant and this worked. Then the mediawhores decided we must do something about the white votes. Oh lets see if we can find us a pollster that will give us the lowest white turnout for obama and then we can fudge the numbers, knowing full well that obama had not even came close to this 10% number the mediawhores were going to use....Well, the election was held and true to form, obama captured one hell of a black vote 70+ percent, but more important that 10% white vote turned out to be exactly what the mediawhores knew and that was aboe the 20% mark and now there was another that would come out of south carolina and not the big story that a huge majority of blacks gave obama the win in south carolina but rather OBAMA RECEIVES HIGHER THEN EXPECTED WHITE SUPPORT TO WIN SOUTH CAROLINA....The mediawhores were rejoicing last night as you could tell in their reporting on all the media channels...Today they still were rejoicing.......

But really, what did Obama win? I say he won south carolina and that is all....Does this provide a bounce in the 2/5 states? NO, the polling would close as the date becomes closer. Will this help obama in florida? NO. Now how will the mediawhores play florida's vote on Tuesday? I tell ya, they will do as they did michigan and play it down as much as they can.....but all I can say is this,

Obama supporters enjoy today and monday cause come tuesday you going to get a lil taste of losing again and then on 2/5 hrc will win with about 17 to 18 states.....cause you will not have the mediawhores there for you as there is no state like south carolina left for you and the medawhores to manipulate.......
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 04:36 PM
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36. Yep, Hillary has had plenty of POSITIVE air time as well
After New Hampshire, I couldn't even stand to listen to the political channels, and the hundreds of replays of "The Cry". I'm sure the pendulum will swing again, it always does....
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:12 AM
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77. You think replays of "the Cry" were positive?
Give me a break.

The fact that they kept talking about her crying at all was to make her seem weak and "feminine" (which is a bad thing to all the good ol' boys who run the media). Anyone who watched the vid knows she didn't cry at all. But that's not the way it was portrayed, was it? That's not the way YOU portray it now either.

They also used "the Cry" to minimize her NH win -- she only won because she cried, which made women feel sorry for her. She didn't really earn it.

It was pure sexist bullshit. And Auntie Bush is exactly right. They're building up Obama any way they can, but it won't last. If he wins the nomination, they'll turn on him like the pack of jackals they are.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:24 PM
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20. excellent post, I couldn't agree more!
k/r.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:48 PM
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22. That's just what they are doing
The media created a racial divide where none existed.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:49 PM
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23. The media
will continue to attempt to divide democrats up until the convention. Then the media will become far, far worse.
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:51 PM
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24. They want a close race
on February 5th for the ratings.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:54 PM
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25. Women Flee Hillary in SC!!!!
Did you see that headline?? No????

Maybe it's because the media is trying to scare voters AWAY from Obama.

Hillary hasn't won the delegates in any state yet. Seen that headline?

The media is not pushing Obama. If they pushed Hillary any more, there wouldn't be any other candidate on the teevee.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:59 PM
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27. LOL, you cite those headlines as criticism of Obama?
I tell you sandnsea, it's been very funny to be an undecided this year rather than a Deaniac as in 2004. It's much easier to see the hilarity of all the candidates' supporters.


Sorry, you know I like you and your posts. But to try to spin those headlines as anything other than an attack on Clinton is mind boggling.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 04:10 PM
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31. Those headlines DON'T EXIST
That's the entire point. If the media were pushing Obama, those headlines WOULD exist.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 04:31 PM
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33. Oh, ok, sorry
The way you wrote your post made it sound like those headlines did exist and you were asking the OP if she had seen them. Now I see what you meant. :)

Though again, as an outsider, I can't see that Clinton and Obama have been treated any differently from one another by the media. The same can be said for Edwards, when he's mentioned.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 04:40 PM
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37. No problem,
I should add sarcasm dohiggies a lot more often. :hi:
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:54 PM
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49. Are you crazy!
What channel do you watch...if any? If you can say that with a STRAIGHT face you haven't been watching TV or you're using too much starch in your makeup. Please name one single commentator or channel that has pushed Hillary or made ONE single negative comment about Obama? There is none, zilch! Even KO seems to have started drinking the kool-aid. Again, I repeat, what channel seems to be pushing Hillary? How October thinking of you. You sound like you've been under a rock for a very long time. You need to turn on TV more often...you'll be very surprised!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:16 PM
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60. So you admit KO was pushing Hillary
and that as recently as last October, the media was pushing Hillary. So they suddenly have to acknowledge Obama since Hillary hasn't won the delegates in any state. And you call that picking our candidate. Talk about crazy.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:57 PM
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71. This whole post of yours is crazy talk.
I don't think KO was pushing Hillary. He was neutral up until the last couple weeks. Now he is sort of leaning toward Obama but he hasn't drank the kool-aid yet. He's still saligable. I'll make my decision about him after he reports the Super Tuesday results. I just hope Tweety's influence hasn't rubbed off on him. Now that's scary! :scared:
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:59 PM
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28. "If they pushed Hillary any more, there wouldn't be any other candidate on the teevee"
You're kidding right?!? The coverage towards Hillary last night was so negative I had to turn off the TV. It was actually making me depressed. I don't know what you're watching. Heck, today when I was flipping through the channels the headline on CNN was "Obama Trounces Clinton."
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:18 PM
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61. So acknowledging Obama trounced Clinton
is distorted coverage that is picking our candidate? I suppose you'd have rather watched Bill trash Obama's win, right?
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 04:02 PM
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29. media has Obama so far up their ass
they'll only come down when the GOP candidate makes it front and center........its sickening the way they never question Obama about issues!
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 04:06 PM
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30. The media aren't dividing anything. The media aren't choosing anything.
We, the people, make our choices. We choose to watch/read the sources we use to make our opinions. We educate ourselves or we don't. We make all those choices. You have made choices. I have made choices. We both have the same access to information. But we haven't let the media make our choice for us.

Same with division of our party or our country. We can only do that ourselves. It is our choice to make. The "media" is doing what it does and what it has always done, from way back to the beginning of our nation. We just have a better opportunity to find out the truth for ourselves, and it is incumbent upon us to do so.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:23 PM
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40. "But we haven't let the media make our choice for us." BS
They haven't made up my mind or yours but they sure have made up the minds of the masses that don't follow the news like we do. All the media sling shit across our faces and expect us to eat it. Sadly they do...every tasty little drop right out of Tweety et al's mouth. Congratulations for listening to other sources...but seems it hasn't done you any good either.
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:23 PM
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46. I know exactly what the media is doing. Has nothing to do with the fact
that people allow the media to behave this way. People get what they ask for, and the vast majority of people out there choose to be spoonfed and their choice of food is sensationalism and crap. Anyone dumb enough to take the media at their word deserves what they get...and until the masses decide they don't want that any longer, they are going to continue to get the same crap fed to them. My eyes are wide open about that. Don't expect the media to change as long as the public continues to suck it up and ask for more.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:10 PM
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73. Trouble is...I didn't ask the media to do what they are doing.
They don't pay any attention to our emails. How do you expect us not to suck it up when that's all they give me and I'm starving for some real fair and balanced journalists who report the news...not constantly giving us their personal bias opinion... or that of their corp. owners.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:31 PM
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66. "...but they sure have made up the minds of the masses that don't follow the news like we do."
That is it...in a nutshell. That sums it up perfectly.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 04:32 PM
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34. I wish more people were knowledgeable about critical media analysis,
then maybe they would recognize the shaping and filtering that goes on in the MSM.

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Fermezlabush Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 04:33 PM
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35. or at least trying
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 04:45 PM
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38. That was NOT Obama support, guys. They are trying to paint Obama as radical, scary
divisive 100% professional ALL Black all the time with nothing on his mind except restitutions and revenge. Under Pat Buchanan, the media whores at MSNBC were trying to inflame racist fears that may well be dead (though corporate America is hoping that they are only buried) which insist that America's first Black president will dedicate himself to punishing Whites for what their ancestors did to slaves. They want America to think that Obama will represent Blacks first and then everyone else second. They want America to picture our tax dollars flowing into Kenya and Africa (instead of Israel and Iraq).

They were not doing Obama any favors last night. That was why Joe Scarborough told Pat Buchanan to stfu with the 1990s race baiting bs early in the post election coverage. And it is why Buchanan kept trying to insist that Obama was getting zero White vote. And why they all wanted to blame Hillary the witch for "ghettoizing" (Buchanan's word) Obama---because that is what the MSM is trying to do, and they do not want any of their viewers to catch them at it when they have already been caught blacklisting Edwards and making sexist slurs about Hillary. Hell, if we caught them trying to make Obama scary, we might turn their bloody station off.
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 04:54 PM
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39. correct; the media has made up its mind. nt
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:28 PM
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41. Well, when it comes from Air America and the Democratic base too

perhaps there is some truth to what they are reporting this time around. Sometimes the pulse of the people is so strong the media has to cover it honestly.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:09 PM
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53. Or maybe they are included in the far left. That's what this site has become.
It sad but most of the blogs (but I haven't looked) are far left too...so what do you expect? I don't expect much support around here. But I can tell you I NEVER in my life had and idea how much the Clintons were hated by their own party! I'm truly SHOCKED and saddened They hate the Clintons as much as the Rethugs...if not more. What a rude awakening! I can't believe my eyes and ears. :cry: It isn't Obama that divided out party...It's the hate! I had no idea that so many Democrats could be so Limballish. It's sickening! :puke:
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:34 PM
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42. Hillary sleeps in a bed of her own making
Yes, the MSM is ganging up on her, but ya know what? She brought most of this on herself. Its laughable to try making the case that the Clintons aren't the prime drivers behind the division that's happened in this primary. They are all about quashing "false hope" by any means necessary. In short, this approach generates ill-will in the short term. Perhaps it will hurt in the long term as well - we'll see.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 05:55 PM
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43. I agree, and the Democratic base has been making these charges long
before the MSM got on board. The Media is also just reporting what a lot of Democratic heavy hitters are saying about Hillary. Including Tom Dashiell, George Mitchell, John Kerry and number of others.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:35 PM
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47. The media created much of this early on.
They gave us first and second tier candidates to create the present match-up. I don't see Rudy marginalized as second tier in spite of his low poll numbers. If he were a Dem, he would be excluded from the debates already.
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Tulkas Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:55 PM
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50. Blame the Media, sure.... Just Shut Bill Up And Everything Is Fine!!!!
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 06:57 PM
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51. I agree the media are spinning...
...but let's not let them win this time.:)
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 07:45 PM
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52. Some stats of media coverage to prove your point:


Obama: 47% positive, 16% negative.
Clinton: 27% positive, 38% negative.
McCain: 12% positive, 48% negative
Giuliani: 28% positive, 37% negative
JEDNE

Net numbers

Obama +31
Giuliani -9
Clinton -11
McCain -36
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:32 PM
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54. MSNBC has been worse since Tweety got in trouble
for being soooo obnoxious regarding Hillary. I can't even barely stand to watch KO since Tweety got his ass chewed and had to apologize. MSNBC is now walking lock step in support of Tweety. They have nothing good to say about Hillary at all. Edwards they placate, because of Elizabeth, but they are pushing Obama like he is a toddler on a bike with training wheels.

To tell you the truth, when I want to hear fair reporting about our primaries and caucuses I listen to FOX. They still bash Hillary but they at least don't have their heads up Obama's butt.

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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:58 PM
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67. Good idea. I should try them more often.. I checked the out once or twice
and found them to be fairer to Hillary than MSNBC. I thought it just a fluke of the moment. Now I'm not so sure and will definately take a look. There must be someone someplace who has fair and balanced news. However, I haven't found any. :cry:
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:35 PM
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56. It looks like they are picking John (Fossil) McCain for us
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:53 PM
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57. Yep...the Media is owned by rich, ugly
white guys like Immelt, Murdoch, and Redstone who are Repugnants and they want the easiest candidate to run against...so they are pushing Obama and HRC. They know damn well that the Southern Red States will not vote for Obama...it will not be pretty.

I have a crazy Evangelical Aunt and there is NO telling her that he is NOT a Muslim. The evangelicals have been teaching HATE of the Muslims for a few months already. She gave me a book to read about hating muslims written by a woman who was raised in Lebanon and says the Muslims are soulless. Of course, I gave her the book. I said all my hate had been preoccupied for the last seven years...it's all used up. This W regime consumed all of my hate.
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hasssan1 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:59 PM
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59. Fuck both of them + all faux news ass holes
I agree with you
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:20 PM
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62. I tried to point out the MSM deciding for us who we should vote for and
all I got was hatred, anger, rage, and vitriol. :shrug:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:24 PM
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64. I hope that people will contribute time and money to Kucinich's campaign to retain his job
so that he may continue to push for impeachment. (I agree with your signature line.)
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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:30 PM
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69. It is a NBC bias against the Clinton. Must be corporate policy.
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Freida5 Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:32 PM
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70. Morning Joe is the most bias against Clinton
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Knox Harrington Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:10 PM
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72. The MSM is unfairly picking on HRC
She has run a pristine campaign and the media always twists thing to make it seem like she's the bad guy, instead of Obama or Edwards, who are the real bad people here. The Clintons get in trouble for speaking the truth whereas the media just propogates one lie after another from Edwards and Obama.
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:32 PM
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74. I agree with you.
The media constantly knocks the Clintons these days and it reminds me of what they did when Bill was President. They breathlessly repeated all the right-wing talking points, lies and innuendos non-stop for 8 years. It was a disgraceful display back then and its starting all over again.

It is very upsetting to see some of the right-wing slurs repeated here by some DUers. Its one thing to disagree with the Clintons on various issues, but to have attacks that originated from the republican slime pit posted here is very disheartening.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 06:44 AM
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76. IMO, "sour grapes" Bullshit! You were ecstatic when HRC was *inevitable* ...
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 06:47 AM by ShortnFiery
I remember all those months on DU where HRC been deemed "all but anointed" our Democratic National Candidate. Now, when things get "a little bumpy" for your heroine, you get all upset and blame *everyone else.* Welcome to OUR WORLD of uncertainty.

The HRC supporters have been living in the media limelight so long, they seemingly have veritable hissy fit when the M$M DARE focus on anyone other than their coveted "Hillary."

Grow up and face "uncertainty" like the rest of us Democratic Supporters (Edwards, Obama) cope with every day.
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