A word about South Carolina that none of you may have considered.

[calteacherguy]

I was working on my phone lists for the California primary when something occured to me that I want to post here for the record. This will probably be the last thing I post here until after the California primary, because time is precious.

Obama's support in SC is being dismissed because it's heavily dependent on the support of African Americans. The theory goes, according to the Clintons and the media, that this will make him the "black candidate." Some say it already has. What if they are wrong?

What if, next Sunday morning, folks of all races and genders in the Feb. 5th states don't go along with the script? What if, in an historical moment like the one that occurred in Iowa, everyone, regardless of the color of their skin does buy the story the media and the Clinton's are assuming they will buy?

What if they buy quite a different story? A 21st century story that goes beyond our divisions of the past? What if next Sunday morning, there is not only a new dawn on this political race, but a new dawn across America? What if people see not, as the Clinton's and the media are assuming they will, a bunch of black folks voting for a black man, but rather a bunch of Americans, like themselves, voting for change. Americans. What if the spirit of Iowa reignites, and not just in Iowa?

When climbing the mountain of hope, one must always overcome doubt. One starts of with great hopes, that was Iowa. Now the doubt has set in, but the mountain top is still there. What if this Saturday, the people of South Carolina show America once and for all how to overcome our doubts and our fears, and believe in our own power as a people once more?

Has anyone considered that?

See ya all later....

[HowHasItComeToThis]

1. HOPE YOUR IDEA IS REALITY

[trueblue2007]

17. I hope all people in South Carolina ... VOTE FOR JOHN EDWARDS!!

[Jim Sagle]

2. Well, then we'll have nominated a Republican.

[Colobo]

3. No, dear Jim.

Barack Obama, a real Democrat, will be nominated. :)

[Jim Sagle]

Wrong - every word.

He's not real, he's not a Democrat, and he won't be nominated. ;)

[dionysus]

32. that post's nuthin but a bag o' shit

[Jim Sagle]

34. Just like yer candidate.

[Cursive]

36. Wow...

I know there's a lot of negativity being thrown at both Senators, but really now...Obama is a bag of feces? I guess I'll just look on the bright side and be glad he isn't flaming...and on my doorstep. Here's to hoping people can calm down and remember what side we're all on.

[Alexander]

42. And you. Fucking fascist.

[Jim Sagle]

46. Eat my shit.

[chimpymustgo]

43. Now, Jim. As a fellow Edwards supporter, I must ask you, "Play nice, okay?"

Let's keep OUR campaign on the high road. :evilgrin:

:hi:

[Jim Sagle]

23. Dupe

[Justice Is Comin]

4. Or a Pelosi in wingtips.

[smalll]

5. What if I were six inches taller,

had better hair, and a high six figure income? Aha! None of you ladies may have considered that, but what if, what if? You'd so want to do me. That's something to consider! I'm just sayin'. :rofl:

To Obamacize the old saying: Look, if hopes were horses, beggars might ride change.

[FrenchieCat]

7. Yes, we wouldn't want to "Hope" that Americans are not just a bunch

of bigots. That would be a stretch, certainly....and I guess Hill and Bill knew that. :(

Thanks for that.

[OzarkDem]

33. False dichotomy

This is the part of Obama's campaign that I really don't care for - trying to make people feel that if they don't vote for him, they're racist.

People vote based on a candidates stand on issues and whether they're qualified for office. To brand everyone a racist if they don't support Obama is wrong.

I'm really getting tired of the negativity and divisiveness of Obama's campaign. It shows poor leadership.

[NoSheep]

40. You're funny!

:D

[usregimechange]

6. Rassmiffin has him winning the male vote.

[LulaMay]

12. What a surprise!

[Tweed]

8. They have in Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada

So I don't see why they wouldn't anywhere else.

http://www.iowacaucusresults.com/ & http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/county/#IADEM

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/county/#NHDEM

http://www.nvdems08.com/ & http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/county/#NVDEM

Kind of hard to put up the numbers Obama has with just heavy support from African-Americans when we are talking about states like New Hampshire, Iowa and Nevada. I expect his message to continue to reach all Americans and be received favorable by the majority.

[Triana]

9. If they wanted to vote for real change they wouldn't vote Obama...

...I'm just sayin...follow the money

[FrenchieCat]

10. When my father gave to Obama, he was listed under Pharma.....

cause he works for Baxter Health as a salesman.

I don't consider him a "special interest group"....so this same shit your'e selling just like Edwards tried to at the debate doesn't fly......

The Lobbyist one might....but it is the only one.

John Edwards took money from lobbyist? What happened? He said he didn't. :wow:

[rox63]

27. I guess my contribution to Obama would be listed under technology companies

Because I work for a software company. But I'm not a special interest either. :shrug:

[Turn CO Blue]

30. Prove it. Provide a link that shows that small donators are being

grouped with large corporate donations and "special interests". I simply do not believe your statement, so prove it.

[SoxFan]

35. And I'd be listed in the "Lawyers & Lobbyists" category

I'm a solo practitioner who helps low-income clients with child support and custody cases, but my $20 donation gets lumped in with the boys at Akin Gump and Patton Boggs.

[emilyg]

11. Eye-opening. Thanks.

[aquart]

13. Great chart. Easy to read. Link?

Kinda tickled that so much money comes from lawyers.

Is there one for contributions from guns and ammo people?

[Triana]

16. they're all at opensecrets.org (n /t)

[Tweed]

15. If this is Presidential campaign money

These are the overall percentages of the campaign totals:
Obama: $80.25M
Edwards: $30.30M

Commerical banking:
Obama 1%
Edwards .5%

Health:
Obama 1.6%
Edwards 1.3%

Hedge Funds:
Obama 1.1%
Edwards .8%

Insurance:
Obama .4%
Edwards .4%

Lawyers:
Obama 10%
Edwards 27%

Lobbyists:
Obama .09%
Edwards .06%

Pharm/Health Products:
Obama .3%
Edwards .04%

Securities & Investment
Obama 5.6%
Edwards 2.5%

Your graph is a joke.

[thoughtcrime1984]

21. Yep, based on that logic...

Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo are the bomb.

[mahina]

18. What?? People are taking MONEY?

To run their presidential races?

No way...I'm sure you can run a pure race, without any money, since we live in a country with publicly financed elections.

Oh wait...

[Triana]

26. Yes. From the corporations and lobbyists who will expect something in return for it...

..once the candidate is in office.

It's called quid-pro-quo. Obama has been BOUGHT - just like Clinton has.

Deal with it. YOU didn't give him all that money. SO GUESS who he WON'T be listening to if he's elected?

Dur. Obama supporters are very skilled at overlooking the blazingly obvious, I see.

Carry on...

[mahina]

28. No, just on calling bullshit what it is. I worked for publicly financed

elections and will continue to, but until we have them, this trick is a lie.

The logical fallacy is translated into English as "If this, then because of this."

I am not a special interest. My lobbying group didn't donate, I donated. And millions of others did too.

I like John Edwards a lot, but your misleading attack is obnoxious and destructive. Adios.

[avaistheone1]

44. This is not misleading. It is factually correct and non-partisan.

Deal with it. Is your conscious bothering you now?

[Tweed]

37. I think it's funny

That you didn't respond to my percentages, but feel free to respond to everyone else. Face it, you know this is BS.

[avaistheone1]

39. This is irrefutable proof the corporations have Obama in their back pocket

[mahina]

47. "This" is proof?

Twice you referred to "this".

Do tell. I'm looking forward to it. Seeing you all over the board tonight...

[NoSheep]

41. I don't want it to be so...but it is so.

[LulaMay]

14. Or maybe they'll reject sexism and the media/Obama trying to take her down as "The Clinton's".

Saying that it's "The Clinton's", "Billary", "Mrs. Clinton", putting the focus on him, saying he's running for co-president and whatever other garbage they can toss.

It was very low of Obama to say he didn't know who he was running against. His campaign is pushing this sexist story line that he's running against them both.

Is it any surprise that the media loves it too, or the prominent Dem men who have come running to Obama's side?

Not to this woman. Seen it all my life.

Whoop-tee-do.

I've been shocked that she's gotten this far, because I know most men in this country still will do everything they can to stop a woman from becoming president, and that inlcudes the media. I've been proud of the large numbers of women and enlightened men not taking it and coming out to vote for a woman they know is brilliant and a leader.

[FrenchieCat]

20. I also don't always knows who Obama is running against......

But I know that Bill is campaigning in South Carolina as we speak. Hillary is not. :shrug:

[SIMPLYB1980]

25. LoL!

[Adelante]

24. You are spamming thread to thread

Please cut it out.

[BringBigDogBack]

19. k/r

[Cleita]

22. Even though our primary here in California is on Feb. 5th, many

of us have already voted by mail including me and I haven't been influenced by the other primaries or the media coverage. My vote didn't go for either Clinton or Obama.

[ClericJohnPreston]

29. I lost you

after the sixth "what if". That then placed your well-thought out scenario in the realm of "what if" pigs sprouted wings and started flying.

Nice try though.....

[chimpymustgo]

45. Funny! and nice pic of Edwards!

:hi:

[Medusa]

31. I see quite a few non-blacks in the crowd shots of SC

it says to me his appeal in SC is beyond the usual black base there.

[indimuse]

38. "What If"...a song I wrote a few years ago...

What if, next Sunday morning, Hillary took SC...?