OBAMA: Well, the only point I would make is that in a year's time, it'll be me who's enforcing them

[Egnever]

My favorite line of the night :)


EDWARDS: And the problem with Peru, Barack, is you are leaving the enforcement of environmental and labor regulations in the hands of George Bush.

I wouldn't trust George Bush to enforce anything, certainly no trade obligations

OBAMA: Well, the only point I would make is that in a year's time, it'll be me who's enforcing them.

:applause:

[Cha]

1. Good confidence in himself..this

is probably one of the times..hilarys called Obama "arrogant".

[saracat]

2. Problem is, Bush can do what he wants till then, and damage

is hard to undo once started and barack gave his okay to Bush.

[FrenchieCat]

3. So you think that Bush will be listening to John Edwards?

That was Obama's point. Bush ain't listening to none of 'em.....so it doesn't help to say what you will do right now. That's why they are running! Cause until Bush is replaced we will stay fucked.

[saracat]

5. The point is , once again Obama voted to give him authority.

Obama voted for the Peru trade deal. He didn't have to.Barack and the Dems shouldn't have supported that trade deal.That was the point.Doesn't have anything to do with whether Bush would listen to anyone.If it didn't exist it wouldn't matter!

[FrenchieCat]

8. So you know what provisions are in the Peru Trade deals......hey,

do you? :shrug:

You should look it up. Not all trade deals are equal...which is why Obama made it a point to state that Peru is the size of New Hampshire, China.......quite a giant bit bigger. :eyes:

But looking at the vote record, neither Clinton or Obama...and neither did any of the senators who were running vote on this bill.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00413

[saracat]

11. But he "supports it. And if he didn't vote, that is just another example of his not being there

for an important vote.Maybe it is the Senate equivelant of voting "present".You sure twist like a pretzel defending this.The fact is, for however long, he is trusting Bush , and he supports this trade deal.He doesn't deny it. And neither he , nor you , have a problem with trusting Bush for over a year. Lovely.

[BringBigDogBack]

12. someone with a picture of Hillary

lecturing someone else on trusting bush. Now this is rich.


I thought I'd seen it all. Now, I have.

Thanks for the chuckle. Back to it. :hi:

[saracat]

13. Take another look at the picture.It isn't Hillary. So much for your powers

of observation.

[Egnever]

4. how much damage can he do in a year by not enforcing trade agreements?

with peru are you fucking kiding me?

[saracat]

6. I don't even want to think about the amount of damage Bush could do.This is Bushco , remember?

Like John said, he wouldn't trust them to cross the street.Sheesh.

[jpgray]

7. I voted to give him the power, because I didn't think he would do anything bad with it

Where have we heard that before? Best to err on the side of caution with such offerings of executive power, no?

[sunonmars]

9. I think that come over very bad, very very cocky

He did this a couple of times in the debate, like it was his right, that didnt sit well with a lot of people.

[Apollo11]

10. Obama did a good job on the trade issue

EDWARDS: There is one other issue that was mentioned in passing by the two of them, which is the issue of jobs. And there is a difference between myself and my colleagues on this issue of jobs, because they both supported the Peru trade deal.

My view is the Peru trade deal was similar to NAFTA. And this is crucial to the state of South Carolina and jobs in South Carolina. South Carolina has been devastated by NAFTA and trade deals like NAFTA.

(...)

OBAMA: Let me just respond to a couple of things. (...) Point number two, on trade, John is exactly right that you travel around South Carolina and you see the textile mills that John's father worked in closed, all over the region. And it is absolutely true that NAFTA was a mistake.

I know that Hillary on occasion has said -- just last year said this was a boon to the economy. I think it has been devastating, because our trade agreements did not have labor standards and environmental standards that would assure that workers in the U.S. were getting a square deal.

But the only thing I want to differ on John is this whole notion of Peru. The Peru trade deal had labor and environmental agreements in it. Peru is an economy the size of New Hampshire. Over 90 percent of the goods coming from Peru already come in under various free trade agreements.

And, John, you voted for permanent trade relations with China, which I think anybody who looks at how we structure trade in this country would tell you has been the biggest beneficiary and the biggest problem that we have with respect to trade, particularly because they're still manipulating the currency.

(...)

EDWARDS: No one has to explain to me what these trade deals have done to South Carolina, to North Carolina. My father, who's sitting right out there in the audience, worked in the mills for 36 years and we have seen what these trade deals have done to people who have worked hard all their lives.

And the problem with Peru, Barack, is you are leaving the enforcement of environmental and labor regulations in the hands of George Bush. I wouldn't trust George Bush to enforce anything, certainly no trade obligations.

OBAMA: Well, the only point I would make is that in a year's time, it'll be me who's enforcing them. And so we're going to make sure that the right thing is being done.


http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/21/debate.transcript/index.html