Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Why Did Hillary Clinton Throw Transgender People Under the Bus?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 07:59 PM
Original message
Why Did Hillary Clinton Throw Transgender People Under the Bus?
I was pretty surprised to see that Hillary and her allies were so quick to sacrifice transgender people for political gain.

http://transadvocate.com/hrc/hrc-hillary-rodham-clinton-and-the-human-rights-campaign.htm

Clinton demonstrated her knowledge of transgender issues with her own wording back in 2001 (during an HRC published interview) was “I have not been told that (transgender issues) is a concern by my gay and lesbian friends.”

How would that statement have been taken if she said “I’m unaware of African American issues as no one from the Anti-Defamation League has approached me on this”? Or “I don’t know Latino issues as no one from the NAACP were concerned about it”? I’d venture it would cause a stir. Why would it never occur to the Senator to go to the community directly on what our issues were, or the difficulties on housing, employment, health care, etc?

We in the transgender community would easily be painted with the “screaming tranny, always complaining” stereotype should we decide to voice opinion on this. Instead, we held our tongue trying to contradict the stereotype.

Later Clinton was posed a question from New York trans activist Melissa Sklarz on transgender inclusion in ENDA (Employment Non Discrimination Act). Sen. Clinton replied by saying that she supported gender identity inclusion in principle, but that she misgivings about supporting a bill that would place transitioned transgenders in “positions of responsibility”. Improvement? Sure. But is she a solid supporter of transgender employment? No.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:05 PM
Response to Original message
1. Also said in the article
"Sen. Hillary Clinton will be the greatest candidate ever elected to the White House for the gay and lesbian community. Clinton will be HRC’s dream President."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Yeah, too bad about the "T" part of "GLBT", huh.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Notice she didn't bother to lobby Obama. Guess she knew about McClurkin
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. True dat.
:thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. So let me get this straight, it's McLurkin's fault that Hillary shit all over transgender people?
Is their no limit to your bending of reality?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #1
7. Sounds like what they said about Bill in 1992
How did that work out? Can we say "Indefensible Marriage Act", anyone?

What if that fundie domionionazi prayer group that Hillary has breakfast with decides that "sodomites" shouldn't be protected from discrimination in any capacity? Will Hillary cave to the 'phobes like Bill did? Or should I say like THEY did, since Hillary is always claiming Bill's 8 years in the White House as her experience.

Hillary Clinton - 8 more years of right wing pandering bullshit. No progress for LGBT Americans, or anybody else for that matter.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:28 PM
Response to Original message
6. I'm frankly shocked by the hypocrisy here!
You mean to say that all the GLBT people that screamed about McLurkin have nothing to say about this one?

Wow.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:30 PM
Response to Original message
8. Yep..Obama just supports folks who want to "cure " them..
yep..i'd run on that one...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:35 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Hillary CODIFIED her discrimnation and she's running for POTUS.
Donnie McLurkin is not running for public office.

Just where are your priorities?

You reek of hypocrisy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. Hah..a chimp telling me I reek..thats precious...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. I'm here for your amusement, no problemo!
The least I can do for all these kicks!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. keep up the good work..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:47 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. Well, I guess the transgenders will just have to bite the bullet and...
vote for Ron Paul who will do whatever they are screaming for.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. I'll try. Here's a nice joke for you.
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 08:51 PM by Bonobo
How many Hillary Clintons does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Answer: One to organize the focus group, one to determine, through triangulation, the precise position to place the light bulb, one to do the screwing, and one to tear up when the light is too bright.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:52 PM
Response to Original message
15. Deafening silence from the defenders of all things Hillary here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:03 PM
Response to Original message
17. Edwards said he believes universal healthcare coverage should cover hormones for transfolk.
Called it a matter of equality.

Obama would probably vote present on the issue, then "pray over" whether he should meet with transfolk or not--or counterbalance the meeting with some Young Republicans to show he can be "open" and "bipartisan" on the issues. GO UNITY!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. Isn't it amazing how Hillary supporters only support equal rights for the GLB community?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. Hillary only supports rights for corporations, not for people
Gay, straight, bi, transgender, or otherwise.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #17
22. That's really good for Edwards
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:27 PM
Response to Original message
20. Thank you mods. My thread was hijacked when I wanted to discuss this point.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:21 PM
Response to Original message
21. I am so glad I've found this article.
As a transsexual, my view of HRC has changed radically from seeing this article. I 've never supported HRC but I've always defended her, and now I am sure as ever to say I won't be supporting Senator Clinton.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #21
23. I think it says something about her as a politician that this is the kind of deal she makes.
I'm glad it helped you make a decision that is important for you.

Thanks for posting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 08:50 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC