Huckabee said we need to amend the Constitution so it meets God's

[EV_Ares]

standards instead of changing it to meet our standards.

Whoa, this guy is dangerous. He was talking in SC.

No link. David Schuster was talking about it on Morning Joe & showed the clip so I am sure it will be on You Tube before long.

[hobbit709]

1. WTF!!!!

Do any of these idiots understand a SINGLE word in the Constitution?

[Tesha]

23. Clearly, *VERY FEW* of our lawmakers, R or D, take it to heart, even if they understand it. (NT)

[Triana]

2. Ladies - better go order your burkas from GodRUS.com!

And QUIT your jobs and get pregnant IMMEDIATELY - and DO NOT be seen outside your home (prison) without a man!

[Eurobabe]

3. I saw the clip. Huckster is a dangerous fool

He better watch out or he will toast himself!

[kevinbgoode]

8. Is there a link to this clip anywhere?

I think this would be a great thing to keep archived. . .

[Eurobabe]

14. Not on youtube or godtube, yet...event was yesterday

Might be on C-SPAN?

[starroute]

38. Video at Raw Story of it being shown on MSNBC

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Huckabee_Amend_Constitution_to_meet_Gods_0115.html

[izzie]

4. who's God will it be?

and which good book will we use? That will take another 2000 years to figure out.

[OneGrassRoot]

5. Scary shit. He is the MOST dangerous of their candidates...

IMHO. He sounds so personable and logical in debates, and then when he says this shit to targeted audiences, his real beliefs come out.

The good news is that any of our Dem candidates would be able to expose him for what he truly is. It's blatant and not hard to expose, but very dangerous if left unexposed.

[EV_Ares]

11. The likeable and personal can be dangerous as people fall for that. Remember how

the media made such a big fucking deal out of how GWB was someone you would like to have a beer with & look what he is like.

[OneGrassRoot]

15. Exactly. That's my point. Wolf in sheep's clothing. n/t

[tomfodw]

26. I don't know

I look at Huckabee and wonder, what state that Kerry carried in 2004 or Gore carried in 2000 can he possibly win? And I answer myself, none. Huckabee has no chance in California or New York. No chance in New Jersey or Pennsylvania. No chance in Illinois or New Jersey or Massachusetts or Connecticut or Maryland or Wisconsin or Minnesota or Washington. And with Nevada and New Mexico likely to be Democratic pick-ups this November, I really don't see how Huckabee can possibly defeat the Democratic candidate.

Is my analysis wrong? If so, how? Thanks.

[OneGrassRoot]

28. My comment that he is "scary" isn't pertaining to his electability...

it's pertaining to the fact that anyone could fall for his debate performances.

I agree that he doesn't stand much of a chance; it just disturbs me that he is more deceptive than most with how he presents himself to large audiences and then says really scary things to smaller audiences consisting of his base.

It is very much like GWB. I know most politicians pander but this is ridiculous...scary ridiculous.

:hi:

[Wednesdays]

30. Election fraud?

:shrug: In that case, all bets are off no matter who the Repugs nominate.

Plus, never underestimate the power of GOP dirty tricks.

[patrice]

6. Those who live by the sword die by the sword, Huck, and you're ready to shoot first

and ask questions later.

Repuglicans

LOVE WAR

Listen to them during their debates. The audience always cheers the suggestion of more

DEATH and DESTRUCTION

Leave OUR Constitution alone, you bloody War Mongers.

[Gman]

7. I read at FR yesterday, before they pulled the thread, about

the Christian Reconstruction movement and Mike Huckabee. Here's some exerpts from another site about CHristian Reconstructionism:

Dominionism & Dominion Theology are derived from Genesis 1:26 of the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament):

"Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth and over all the creatures that move along the ground.'" (NIV)

Most Christians interpret this verse as meaning that God gave mankind dominion over the animal kingdom. Dominion theologians believe that that this verse commands Christians to bring all societies, around the world, under the rule of the Word of God.
,
,
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Its most common form, Dominionism, represents one of the most extreme forms of Fundamentalist Christianity thought. Its followers, called Dominionists, are attempting to peacefully convert the laws of United States so that they match those of the Hebrew Scriptures. They intend to achieve this by using the freedom of religion in the US to train a generation of children in private Christian religious schools. Later, their graduates will be charged with the responsibility of creating a new Bible-based political, religious and social order. One of the first tasks of this order will be to eliminate religious choice and freedom. Their eventual goal is to achieve the "Kingdom of God" in which much of the world is converted to Christianity. They feel that the power of God's word will bring about this conversion. No armed force or insurrection will be needed; in fact, they believe that there will be little opposition to their plan. People will willingly accept it. All that needs to be done is to properly explain it to them.

All religious organizations, congregations etc. other than strictly Fundamentalist Christianity would be suppressed. Nonconforming Evangelical, main line and liberal Christian religious institutions would no longer be allowed to hold services, organize, proselytize, etc. Society would revert to the laws and punishments of the Hebrew Scriptures. Any person who advocated or practiced other religious beliefs outside of their home would be tried for idolatry and executed. Blasphemy, adultery and homosexual behavior would be criminalized; those found guilty would also be executed. At that time that this essay was originally written, this was the only religious movement in North America of which we were aware which advocates genocide for followers of minority religions and non-conforming members of their own religion. Since then, we have learned of two conservative Christian pastors in Texas who have advocated the execution of all Wiccans. Ralph Reed, the executive director of the conservative public policy group the Christian Coalition has criticized Reconstructionism as "an authoritarian ideology that threatens the most basic civil liberties of a free and democratic society."

http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm

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I haven't verified the information, but apparently some guy named Holtze (I believe) that is really big in this movement held a fundraiser for Huckabee so alarm bells are going off in the GOP against Huckabee for this along with the many other reasons.

[patrice]

10. These people are BLASPHEMERS.

and that's a conservative Christian opinion.

[arewenotdemo]

27. Uh, if Ralph Fucking Reed thinks it's dangerous, I'd tend to agree.

Even if he is a closet blasphemer...


;-)

[Gman]

29. Yeah, that's what struck me

Reed thought they were dangerous which means these people are WAY out there.

[notadmblnd]

9. And who' going to speak for god?

[saltpoint]

12. The Republicans courted and wooed people just like Huckabee for some

time now and created a monster.

He's within arguable grasp of their nomination.

The rest of their field is a pack of hapless kooks and pandering nobodies.

The GOP is unstable and diseased owing to the contagion of the fundie nutbags, and there's no easy way out except high-risk surgery. It's not clear at all that the patient can be saved.

As to Huckabee himself, there's more than a hint of serious mental illness in his public performances. He exhibits the behavior of someone who is not well.

[patrice]

13. The nuns always used to say that Blasphemy is the most Dangerous sin.

They said because of Supernatural Grace you couldn't really say definitely which sin would lead to damnation, but Blasphemy was the one that was most likely.

I know that sounds like mumbo-jumbo to some people these days, but I see all of it within an organic frame (physical facts and processes, i.e. the phenomenal universe) that makes it make sense to me. Actions have effects upon the physical world and the notion of Hell is not necessarily elsewhere elsewhen.

[saltpoint]

16. Hi, patrice. Well, those nuns may have been on to something with that

insight into blasphemy.

It seems as if you are framing the issue in its most imaginable (and therefore most humane) context, which is by all evidence over Huckabee's purposes. His is a low-down pseudo-Christian stew, brewed in a back alley during an onset of Plague. The stew broils and its foul vapors waft over the village.

The man frightens me and I really do feel there is a significant component of mental illness at play. He is assertive to a fault, and does not speak in "maybe's'" and "perhaps's." He claims to be a follower of Jesus, but to my knowledge the Galilean did not enjoin his followers to condemn and discriminate, two of Huckabee's trademark behaviors.

We'll have to see how much insight GOP primary voters have in dealing with this guy. He's a threat to their existence as a viable party, and Dubya has left them in an already-weakened state.

[patrice]

22. It's Sad he's so stupid. He's being used as "Bait and Switch" by the GOP.

It's the old shell game and GOP grassroots are going to find McCain under the shell, no matter how much they think they're getting Huckabee.

And the "Christian" voters will fall for it again!!!

[saltpoint]

32. Very possible. I've been listening to a few of the clips of John McCain lately and

wonder if he's going to live another 20 minutes, let alone through the November election.

The GOP is in dire straits right now.

Which is fine with me!

[kenfrequed]

17. Set up

Huckabee is attempting, by saying idiotic things like this, to become THE candidate for the Christian Right. He is completely aware of how much he needs them to capture South Carolina. They are the foot soldiers that show up to vote in the primaries there and they are also the insulation that Baby Bush had from questions about his military service when he ran against McCain there.

He will change his tune after he bounces out of South Carolina.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

18. ugh and people find him likeable. honestly.

[earth mom]

19. Folks, the likable meme is coming from Faux! The dude is a scary fringe lunatic!

I can't stand him!

Step away from the kool aid! :scared:

[ananda]

20. ROFL. And so who exactly knows and decides..

.. what -- God's -- standards are??

lol

[gratuitous]

34. Well, our truth bulldogs in the media

Don't worry, we are in no danger of that question being asked by our discreet and oh-so-circumspect truth bulldogs in the media. It would be unseemly to pin down the likeable Mike Huckabee on just what he's talking about when he prattles on like that.

[madmom]

21. If our country was founded on "christian values" as they like to say then

wouldn't our constitution already reflect that?:shrug:

[patrice]

24. Excellent point!! I hope you're out there on the Internet sharing your insight. nt

[havocmom]

25. oooo, can we get you up front at any Huckster rallies to ask that one?

:thumbsup:

[bdamomma]

31. oh geez, just another wackjob for the religious fanatics.

that comment makes me what to do this:puke:

[stray cat]

33. I heard him say it - and its an accurate quote.

[benld74]

35. NUTJOB, Fruitcake!

[IndianaGreen]

36. A Christian version of an Islamic Republic

Don't blame Huckabee! What he is openly discussing, and I am grateful for it, is Christian Dominionist ideology which has been a bedrock of Christian doctrine in this country for several decades. Thousands of churches preach this crap every Sunday. It includes historical revisionism, such as the baseless claim that America was founded as a Christian nation.

Huckabee is just one of many megaphones that spread this dangerous ideology. The coddling of evangelicals by Hillary and Obama is playing right into the Dominionists' hands.

[FiveGoodMen]

37. Treason!

Maybe not technically, but treason all the same. The Establishment Clause may be the single most important part of the Constitution.

[ordinaryaveragegirl]

39. Whatever happened to "Separation Of Church And State"???

What a wonderful idea he's come up with there. :sarcasm:

I'm sure the neocon fundie freaks are just eating this up. Religious freedom is one of the founding virtues of this nation. Why would he want to step all over the views of our founding fathers and, in turn, alienate thousands of non-Christian Americans from our democracy?

[saltpoint]

40. It would be great to somehow arrange for Huckabee to be successful only

to the point of splitting the GOP in half and leaving them in angry shards, but not successful enough to actually win the nomination.

Let alone the White House. This guy is a nuclear nutbag.