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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:52 PM
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Clinton Hispanic Pollster Bendixen said Hispanic Voters Don' Like To Vote for Black Candidates!!
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 06:53 PM by Dems Will Win

CLINTON CAMPAIGN POLLSTER SAID HISPANICS WON'T VOTE FOR BLACKS!

God, she is really using her surrogates to employ race in this campaign. It's disgusting.

Obama has an interest in downplaying his race in both states. There are lingering tensions between the Hispanic and black communities which he doesn’t want to inflame, and some residual skepticism among black voters concerning Obama’s electability among whites. Interestingly, in the final days of the New Hampshire campaign, when defeat looked certain for Clinton, it was Hillary’s aides who started talking privately about racial politics. They argued that on February 5th, when twenty-two states vote, Hillary’s fire wall would be Hispanic voters in the largest states, such as California and New York.

On the morning after Clinton’s victory, I talked to Sergio Bendixen, one of her pollsters, who specializes in the Hispanic vote. “In all honesty, the Hispanic vote is extremely important to the Clinton campaign, and the polls have shown—and today is not a great day to cite polls—that even though she was slipping with women in Iowa and blacks in South Carolina, she was not slipping with Hispanics,” he said. “The fire wall doesn’t apply now, because she is in good shape, but before last night the Hispanic vote was going to be the most important part of her fire wall on February 5th.” The implications of that strategy are not necessarily uplifting.

When I asked Bendixen about the source of Clinton’s strength in the Hispanic community, he mentioned her support for health care, and Hispanic voters’ affinity for the Clinton era. “It’s one group where going back to the past really works,” he said. “All you need to say in focus groups is ‘Let’s go back to the nineties.’ ” But he was also frank about the fact that the Clintons, long beloved in the black community, are now dependent on a less edifying political dynamic: “The Hispanic voter—and I want to say this very carefully—has not shown a lot of willingness or affinity to support black candidates.”


http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/01/21/080121fa_fact_lizza?printable=true


PLEASE RECOMMEND IF THIS PISSES YOU OFF TOO
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:54 PM
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1. LOL.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:56 PM
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2. It's not like he WORKS FOR HILLARY or anything n/t...
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:56 PM
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3. We are going to lose this election
if this stuff does not stop. It is more important to me to have a Dem win no matter who it is. I can't believe how dirty this is getting. I expect this from the other party.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:23 PM
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13. Funny, I expected from the clinton's
lust for power at everyone else's expense.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:59 PM
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4. Here's the link to the evidence provided by Hillary's pollster
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 07:02 PM by antiimperialist
There:


Did you see it? Let me post it again:


If you can't find the link to the evidence try this alternative one:


For those using Mozilla Firefox, perhaps the webpage only works on IE. Try this one:


Now, if you are using a mac, click here:


Got it? Let me know if you are having problems accessing the evidence.


Thanks.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:14 PM
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9. Are you stating that it is false? nt
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:17 PM
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10. We can't know if it's false or true without reading the evidence I just gave you
The links are breakdowns of past elections that included an African-American vs. a White candidate.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 06:59 PM
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5. Is it true or not? Does it matter if it's true or not? nt
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:01 PM
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6. He provided evidence based on past elections. See post above yours n/t
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 07:01 PM by antiimperialist
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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:01 PM
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7. Bendixen is right. He's also right about downplaying race.
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 07:03 PM by Anouka
Again, racism trumps sexism.

And the world is not black versus white and should not be drawn as if it were black versus white... with all non-whites voting for all non-whites as if a cohesive unit/group/one mind.

There's a lot of old ways of thinking and old assumptions (that were faulty in the first place) that need to be swept aside.


Meanwhile, the Clintons toss out racial charges, and can sit back and watch Obama try to beat out the flames because the scorching won't touch them as much as it will hurt Obama either way.

Genius.

Don't put these two back in the White House.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:04 PM
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8. Im sure glad Hillary wants to win so bad
........that she allows her people to be assholes.

Win at any cost.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:21 PM
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11. Sergio "has earned the undisputed title of being the leading pollster of Hispanics in the country."
Sergio Bendixen
Sergio is recognized as one of the preeminent experts in Hispanic public opinion research in the United States. The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported that Sergio "has earned the undisputed title of being the leading pollster of Hispanics in the country." Sergio has also vast experience in multilingual polling with surveys conducted in as many as 12 different languages. In addition to his research background, Sergio worked extensively in Spanish language media with Télemundo, Univisíon and CNN en Español and served on Capitol Hill for many years. Sergio’s unique abilities and experiences make him a key addition to NPI and understanding the coming political battleground of the 21st century.
http://www.newpolitics.net/node/37

Survey Finds Friction Among Minority Groups
Despite Stereotypes and Distrust, Poll Shows Shared Values and Hope for Closing Rifts
By Pamela Constable
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, December 13, 2007; Page A10
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/12/AR2007121201543.html

Relations among African Americans, Hispanics and Asian Americans are fraught with tension and negative stereotypes, but the three groups share core values and a desire to get along better, according to a poll released yesterday by the nonprofit group New America Media.

The survey found that many members of the three groups feel more comfortable doing business with whites than with members of the other groups and that an overwhelming majority of each group views racial tension as a "very important problem." ...
...Among the survey's more revealing findings was the high degree of social segregation that persists among immigrant groups as well as African Americans. A large proportion of all three groups said most of their friends are in their ethnic or racial group. Even larger percentages of Hispanics and African Americans said people in their church or school are from their group.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:24 PM
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14. That survey says nothing about elections
Or voting trends.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:33 PM
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20. Is what he said racist? nt
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:25 PM
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15. And all "prestigious" pollsters were wrong NH. A nice biography is not evidence n/t
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:28 PM
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17. ..and did I mention that Bendixen works for the website that you linked with the flattering bio? n/t
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 07:28 PM by antiimperialist
I'm sure you would use the same kind words if you were trying to hype the new addition to your team.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:22 PM
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12. I'll bet that Bendixen doesn't like people of mixed race, like Hugo Chavez!
which may explain why Hillary has sided so strongly with the lilly white elites of Venezuela.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:31 PM
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19. Now you're just having fun. nt
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:35 PM
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21. I saw the video of Hillary's "Take that, Venezuela!" speech
in which she told a group of wealthy supporters last year that "we" didn't share the values of the Bolivarian revolution.

I got the message.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:12 PM
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32. WOW! Obama came out for Chavez?????
I'm impressed.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:28 PM
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16. Here we go again.........A Clinton surrogate
Unreal. How they want to play
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:30 PM
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18. New Poll Reveals Dissension, Hope Among Ethnic Groups
Poll: Cultural Tensions Causing Deep Divisions in the U.S.
audio link 12/12/06 NPR- http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17162312


The nation's first multilingual poll shows tensions among Blacks, Hispanics and Asian Americans. However, the groups agreed to work together to put aside any differences. The poll was sponsored by New America Media and nine ethnic media outlets who are founding members of the organization. Read the PDF press release. - http://media.newamericamedia.org/images/polls/race/press_rel.pdf

http://www.aaja.org/headliners/2007_12_14_01/



Sergio Bendixen is the CEO of Bendixen & Associates, and is recognized as the preeminent expert in Hispanic public opinion research in the United States and Latin America. Bendixen graduated from the University of Notre Dame in 1970 with a degree in chemical engineering. Following his studies at Notre Dame, he was employed by the Atlantic Richfield Corporation in Corpus Christi, Texas. However, a fascination with politics and a desire to understand how to shape public policy drew Bendixen into the political arena, opinion research, and the media. Bendixen has provided primary research and advice for clients both on a national and international level and has directed hundreds of demographic and attitudinal survey projects for statewide and congressional political races, major corporations, and not-for-profit organizations. Bendixen specializes in gathering information about Latino public opinion. The Columbia Journalism Review identifies Bendixen as the pioneer of multilingual polling, with surveys conducted in as many as 12 different languages. He spent 14 years working as a national television political analyst for four chief Spanish-language television networks: S.I.N. (1985-86), Univision (1987-92), CNN en Español (1993) and Telemundo (1994-98). He has also provided commentary for countless radio shows and print stories. Bendixen's polls and writings have been featured in Newsweek, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post and The Miami Herald. Bendixen also spent eight years in Washington, D.C., as Chief of Staff and Press Secretary to U.S. Representative William Lehman allowing him to develop a broad understanding of political and public policy issues. A native of Peru, Sergio Bendixen is the first and only Hispanic to have ever run a national campaign for U.S. President and has served as a senior consultant to two other presidential campaigns in both Costa Rica and Venezuela.
http://www.americanprogressaction.org/pressroom/cap/advisories/2007/02/Latino_Voters.html

July 15, 2005
Sergio Bendixen speaks at the Council of the Americas in New York City on the topic of remittances with the president of the Inter-American Development Bank, Enrique Iglesias.


July 14, 2005
Sergio Bendixen speaks at JP Morgan and the Chicagoland Chamber of Commerce in Chicago on the topic of remittances with the president of the Inter-American Development Bank, Enrique Iglesias.


June 29-30, 2005
New California Media releases a survey on the reach of ethnic media in the United States. Sergio Bendixen presented the findings of the study to the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights and the Center for American Progress.


June 9, 2005
New California Media holds their first national expo of ethnic media in New York City with Mayor Michael Bloomberg
as a special guest. http://www.pgconsult.net/clients/bendixenandassociates/index_old.html
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:36 PM
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:53 PM
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25. Which ones, dear?
The ones who don't agree with you? Did you think there was only one kind of racism? One kind of bigot?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:20 PM
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33. exploiting these prejudices
is the standard operating procedure for those who do not want racial and economic minorities to find common ground.

it is interesting,no it`s sad, to see the creation of a divide and to what lengths some in this party are willing to exploit them.

pigs? no... pigs have value
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:39 PM
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23. Don't give yourself a stroke now. That would be soo sad
:rofl:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 07:40 PM
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24. JEDNE nt
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:12 PM
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30. Nobody wants to play with wittle johnny?
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ZinZen Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:06 PM
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26. He is a Clinton toadie
I live in Hispanic rich CA and will be very surprised if all the Hispanic base votes lockstep for Clinton. It will nice to see the breakdown on Feb 5th. But I will predict that the Hispanic base will either split the vote between the top three Dems or at minimum vote a little more proportionally for one candidate.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:07 PM
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27.  i just thought of this---
.."The Hispanic voter—and I want to say this very carefully—has not shown a lot of willingness or affinity to support black candidates.”

where would a latin community have a chance to vote for a black candidate?

the whole article is nauseating


to use an old phrase ---pornography of politics


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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:11 PM
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29. In a city, congressional, or statewide election?
My what a segregated vision you have of this country.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:07 PM
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28. We're not allowed to poll or discuss voting blocs?
Because Obama's too delicate for political reality?

Or because his supporters (and I say this because someone brought it up last week and I laughed) have this fantasy that all "people of color" will vote as one to sweep their hero into the presidency? The "people of color" designation is a whole world of bigotry all its own. It says there are white people, and then there are all these OTHERS.

My next door neighbors growing up were a Cuban family. They had many cousins far darker than they were. None of the darker cousins were at my neighbor's wedding. Maybe they were just busy.

There are MANY racial and ethnic divides in America and a POLITICIAN knows how to negotiate that shark tank. One way, would be to discuss the implications of it, which appears to be what Clinton staffers are now being condemned for doing. DO YOU REALLY THINK OBAMA'S PEOPLE AREN'T HAVING MEETINGS ABOUT THIS? Why do you think the Culinary Union was so important?
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:12 PM
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31. My problem with the Clinton camp is they are actually
trying to ignite the already existing racism in many Latinos to get votes.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:21 PM
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34. And they will do even more outrageous things
if they can gain an advantage, as the LGBT community found out the hard way.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:21 PM
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35. How exactly does that work? And your saying "many" Latinos are racist?
What is this, an alternate universe?
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:23 PM
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36. I am saying what I am saying.
Yes, many Latinos are racists, just like many Americans are.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:29 PM
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39. From what I understand , they may be bigots but they do not have the power to be called racists. nt
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:26 PM
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38. just as "many" as any other race
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:24 PM
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37. did`t that guy just say they were throwing the black voters
under the bus? but then again i know not what i have seen nor read in my life
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