The role Edwards might play in winning Obama the nomination.

[calteacherguy]

First, a word to Edwards supporters. I wish you the best of luck. We have three very strong candidates. I am not writing this thread to dis your candidate, but this is after all a political forum, so allow me to engage in a bit analysis.

I hope Edwards, if he truly does believe that he and Obama are the candidates of change, helps to enact that change in whatever way is feasible for him. If he surges ahead, perhaps he will win the nomination. But if not...

If Obama does well and is beating Clinton, then Edwards can stay in until the convention and keep his voice heard. If Obama begins to falter, Edwards much choose what is most important to him: a candidate of change or his own desire to stay in until the convention even when it becomes clear he is not the nominee.

The third possibility is most intriguing: Edwards, Clinton, and Obama all arrive in Denver without enough delegates to get the nomination. Edwards has a choice. He can tell his delegates to vote for the only viable candidate of change at the convention, or he can remain silent.

What Edwards decides to do soon or ultimately may well determine our nominee.

[splat]

1. I'm starting to think the only real Change is a woman president n/t

[MH1]

2. Only by being a woman?

So, if Condi Rice were running and Clinton weren't in it, Condi would be the "change" candidate?

[splat]

7. You said "only," not me -- changed what I said and answered that

Too easy.

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[DJ13]

6. I'm starting to think the only real Change is a woman president

Thank goodness we dont have a transgender person running then.

You might explode.

[Clarkansas]

3. I hope Edwards endorses Obama soon

though I doubt he will.
If Hillary does really well on super Tuesday, which I think is very likely, it will be too late.
This is a two person race, as I don't think Edwards will win a single state in super Tuesday.

[DJ13]

8. I agree

"If Hillary does really well on super Tuesday, which I think is very likely, it will be too late."



Should Edwards stay in through super tuesday, and he hasnt won any state by that time, he should do whats right and exit the race, throwing his support to Obama, if he truly believes in bringing about real change.

Should he remain winless and stubbornly remains in the race through super tuesday, I would have to conclude his candidacy at that point is only being run to help Hillary win.

Old Clinton tactic, divide your opponents into two seperate candidates so that you can still win with less than majority support.

Think Perot in 92, and again in 96.

[splat]

11. I like Edwards; you make him sound like a pawn in the old boy network

[Yael]

12. Post after post you keep shitting on JE

so why do you not change your avatar?

Its really getting annoying.

Just sayin.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

4. I trust Edwards enough to believe that he will either be the nominee, or....

end up someone's VP. I think if he's not going to be the nominee (tho I doubt that because I'm so convinced he's going to be our next president), the person who stands most to lose, should ask him to be VP just to get him to back him. That's what I think . The other two candidates need to sit down and think deeply what they're doing. I don't really think it's up to Edwards. It's up to the other two. :-) They need to do the right thing.

GO EDWARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Justyce]

5. At this point, I believe Edwards is the ONLY canidate of change, so I hope

he sees this thing through to the end, if for no other reason than to keep his message heard -- although I haven't given up on the other 48 states yet. I personally don't see enough of a difference between Obama & HRC to justify him throwing in the towel in support of one over the other. JMO.

[sam sarrha]

10. i agree.. he is the only one with a vision. and campaigns on it, the others are Charisma based, that

is why the ReThug media wants him shut up, and 'Disappeared' him

[sam sarrha]

9. or if the top #2 dedicates their holding to edwards ..edwards will become #1, 3-1=1'