Clark supporters: ABB?

[JNelson6563]

In light of all the loyalty oaths demanded of Dean supporters, and in light of all the extreme disdain shown by Clark supporters toward Dean it seemed appropriate to offer you this opportunity to state your ABB (or other) intentions.

Are you ABB? If not what will you do if Clark does not win the nomination?

Julie

[wyldwolf]

1. Every Clark supporter I know on DU and off DU are ABB...

In fact, I've never seen a Clark supporter indicate otherwise.

[unfrigginreal]

15. You haven't looked too hard then.

There are several that have posted that they would not vote for Dean in the GE. It was usually argued in a way that was supposed to support their claim that Dean couldn't win the GE. Supposedly not enough "crossover" appeal.

[wyldwolf]

21. Actually, I haven't LOOKED for them at all...

... but would love to know who they are.

[Democrats unite]

28. Would you happen to have a link?

or is this...

[mikehiggins]

49. There is a difference between supporting your candidate

because you think he is the only one who has a chance, as opposed to saying you will NOT support the eventual Democratic candidate.

Of course I think Dean cannot get elected. Why the hell else would I be backing someone else? I'm not backing any of the others for the same reason. I'm not going to jump from candidate to candidate in some sort of lunatic "anti-Dean" thing, either. If Clark doesn't get the nomination it is all the same for me after that.

I'll work for the Democratic candidate the same as I would for Clark. I'd just be hoping to be pleasantly surprised.

ABB RULES!

[Kathleen04]

2. ABB!

If Clark doesn't win the nomination, I'll start volunteering for the person who does.

[Justice]

3. ABB

Although it would have been really much nicer if you could have posted your question without the highly inflammatory remark --

There is lots of extreme disdain being shown on DU by lots of different supporters.

[TrueAmerican]

4. Has Clark said his supporters were "non-transferrable"?

No, that was Dean. So no problem here. Clark supporters will back the eventual Democratic candidate.

[Padraig18]

5. Don't be too sure, TA

I've seen several here at DU who have said they won't back Gov. Dean--- several.

[meow mix]

9. but those were just people

not the Candidate Himself! cmon stop pretending

[Padraig18]

17. Not pretending.

All Gov. Dean did was speak a simple truth--- he can and will support the nominee AND urge his supporters to do the same. No candidate in the race has 100% 'automatic transferrability' on their supporters--- not one.

[meow mix]

20. so what motivates him..

to send such a message to his supporters?
obviously he knows they are listening...

smells really bad.

[Padraig18]

23. Ummm...

"Some times a cigar is just a cigar."

---Sigmund Freud.

[meow mix]

26. well maybe

but the cigar seems to have a subtle threat attached. no way around it from my perspective. =)

[Padraig18]

30. Key words: "My perspective"

:hi:

[meow mix]

45. thats why i put em there..

just being honest =)

[Justice]

10. Care To Share?

I've not seen any.

just curious.

[Padraig18]

13. It'd be against the rules.

:)

[JNelson6563]

18. I've seen it too

Even got a couple in my In-box. ;-)

Julie

[jmaier]

24. sadly, this happens

and it goes both ways -- there's a rather vocal Dean supporter on another active thread right now saying it's "Dean's way or the highway."

There is going to be some small percentage of disaffected folks given any outcome who will do more harm than good with their anger. It's unfortunate but to be expected given human nature.

[Padraig18]

27. I agree.

You seem a very reasonable sort, jmaier. Do you understand why we Dean supporters are getting rather prickly on this subject, after the 119th time it's been raised? :)

[jmaier]

32. Yes

I do. While I get tired of seeing derivations of the same old Clark attacks (Shelton smear, fundraising video, etc.) over and over again, I shudder to think how many more times I would see these attacks if Clark were the frontrunner. Though I would trade places :-)

It's unfortunate, but most Dean smear threads appear to come from the same 4-5 "Clark" supporters and a Kerry supporter or 2. Most Clark smears come from the same 4-5 Dean supporters or a handful of Greens.

It's sad to think that both of these fine men must be torn down by a few misguided souls who would be firmly disavowed by the very candidates they claim to so ardently support. Either candidate would make a fine President and an evolutionary leap beyond Bush. I really don't understand what they are trying to achieve. There are a few hundred people a day who seem to post on the GD Primary thread; do they actually think they are positively influencing a substantive number of voters?

I notice that you always appear as a voice of reason. I try to do the same because ... well, it's the right thing to do.

:toast:

[Padraig18]

34. "Either candidate would make a fine President "

Amen! I do try to be reasonable, but it would try the patience of a saint, some days.

It is the same hardcore group of people who start these ridiculous falme wars, time and time again. Sad, isn't it, that they don't understand that they're hellping the candidate they allegedly support not at all.. *sigh*

[Democrats unite]

29. Can you please show us a link where this has happened on du?

eom

[Crunchy Frog]

33. I've seen a few

Dean supporters say that they would not vote for Clark. These things cut both ways.

[vdeputy]

6. I'm hugely supportive of Clark

but, of course, I will back the Democratic nominee against Bush, no matter who he (or she) turns out to be

[jmaier]

7. Ardently ABB

I'd even donate and canvass for Joe Lieberman, if necessary.

Though, please, let's not make that necessary. :-)

[JNelson6563]

12. haha Fortuantely I'm pretty sure

It won't be Joe. For that alone we can ALL be thankful!

:toast:

Julie

[Toucano]

8. ABB! n/t

[Mz Pip]

11. ABB

Anything else is just plain foolish and reckless.

MzPip
:dem:

[rucky]

14. Screw that! I'm voting for *.

that's my new pat answer to ABB daily affirmations.

:evilgrin:

[Scott Lee]

43. I like the way you think.

[Tom Rinaldo]

16. ABB all the way

And this question has been asked of Clark supporters several times before. I have personally gone through this public exercise in loyalty reassurance on more than one occasion.

However, feelings are a bit raw, so if I can help by offering this reassurance again, glad to do it.

[BootinUp]

19. ABB

but Go Clark!

[meti57b]

22. ABB, here!!

[Dookus]

25. can we stop this nonsense?

It's just tiresome to see everybody pretend that they're the only aggrieved people here. Dean supporters notice every attack on Dean and think it's disproportionate. Clark supporters notice every attack on Clark and think they're disproportionate.

The fact is, the silly smears are generally posted by a very small handful of people who keep digging up the same old complaints over and over.

FYI, there's another thread on the front page of this forum right now wherein a Dean supporter vows that if Dean is not the nominee, he will not vote for a Democrat EVER AGAIN.

Do I take that to be representative of Dean supporters? Of course not - it would be silly to.

yes, I'll vote for the Democratic nominee. I expect approx. 99% of people here will vote for the Democratic nominee.

Can we please stop these silly attacks? There really ARE issues of substance we disagree on and can discuss. This isn't one of them.

[Crunchy Frog]

31. The repeated loyalty oaths

go both ways, but, as I have said in the previous ones, I will support the Democratic nominee, unless it turns out to be Lieberman, in which case, I can't guarantee anything.

[laruemtt]

35. ABB

no question! it CANNOT be worse than what we've got...

[Ilsa]

36. ABB!

At this point I'd swear to campaign for Satan to get his top dark demon (and his brother Cheney) out of the WH.

[Scott Lee]

37. I am ABBS

Anybody but bad Stageplay :)

[neverforget]

38. This Clark supporter is strictly ABB. I can't stand the thought of

another 4 years of Bush/War.

[SahaleArm]

39. ABB: Don't worry about us - We're transferable n/t

[Rowdyboy]

40. I'm transferrable to any Democrat running

no question

[QC]

41. Yes, for the 500th !@*%#$$ time.

Julie, you're not the only one here who is tired of the ten or fifteen demands for loyalty oaths every day.

[TacticalPeek]

42. A-fn-men! ABB.

Now!

[Nashyra]

44. ABB

That's what got me involved. I just so happened to like Clark the best but will work for ABB

[LiberalBushFan]

46. possibly ABB

I will definitely vote for Dean under one condition:
he must vow not to include you, slinkerwink, Scott Lee, BrianExpat, Closer, Hep, and a few others who I can't think of right now in his cabinet!

[JNelson6563]

50. Not a problem

I have sworn to my family not to take a political postion until my kids are grown and gone. I've got at least 6 years to go.

You're safe. ;-)

Julie

[gulliver]

47. ABB

Obviously.

[SW FL Dem]

48. ABB

I am a life-long liberal Dem. I have never missed a vote. I think any one of our 9 candidates is better than what we have now.

[TexasSissy]

51. ABB and ABD.

Not out of meanness toward either one. I just don't trust or believe either of them.

[Donna Zen]

52. Two choices

I will either vote for an honorable Democrat with whom I agree;

OR I will vote for a Democrat that makes me puke on my shoes.

There is no third choice.

[abburdlen]

53. ABB

If Clark get the nom I will vote for Clark. If he does not I will vote against Bush.

It's not the folks on this board you ought to worry about. I have relatives that listen to Rush and watch Faux (They're in-laws so luckily it isn't genetic). They would consider voting for Clark. They would not vote for Dean.