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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:25 AM
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Wall St Journal Opinion on Barack Obama
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 11:55 AM by cloudythescribbler
While HRC and Edwards supporters are busy pillorying Obama's progressive credentials, WSJ Opinion warns its readers of the dangers of Obama's "liberalism".

WSJ Opinion Journal knows where its (class) interests lie. Do you?

Obama in 08!

<b>OBAMA AND THE BURDEN OF LIBERALISM</b>
<i>by Kimberley Strassel</i>


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/12/obama_the_burden_of_liberalism.html
<snip>

If the Democratic race has been about anything, it's been about promises of "change." Mr. Obama has made it his signature issue, tapping into a national unease with the status quo, and riding it to within striking distance of Hillary Clinton. What the charismatic young Illinois senator has not yet had to do is explain what shape this change will assume, or how he intends to bring it about. And lucky for him, because it's far from clear Mr. Obama is anything but same old, same old.


But it's been Mr. Obama's more sweeping message that has captured public attention. He's seen Mrs. Clinton's bet (to change which party runs the White House) and raised her (by promising to change the entire political calculus). That goes down well not only with anti-Bush partisans, but paradoxically with voters who complain about too much "partisanship" in Washington. As a bonus, it allows Mr. Obama to hit Mrs. Clinton where it hurts, namely voter fear that she'd be a return to 1990s battles.

The message is so strong that it has, remarkably, allowed Mr. Obama to so far weather his biggest weakness: lack of experience, especially on foreign policy. Everyone likes a fresh face, but voters have a way of trusting in the old, familiar ones in times of danger.What exactly is that new era?

<snip>

Washington is gridlocked in part because congressional Democrats have attempted to govern with an agenda that is too liberal even for many in their own party.

Mr. Obama is captivating, though probably not captivating enough to convince Republican rivals to sign up for Nancy Pelosi's game plan. His only real tool for changing Washington presumably rests in convincing his own party to move toward a more innovative middle. Yet nothing in Mr. Obama's history, or current campaign, suggests he intends to forge a new Democratic direction.

As a candidate, Bill Clinton recognized Democrats' national image problems, and ran on a message of "opportunity, responsibility, community." President Bill Clinton abandoned most of that within his first 100 days, caving to liberals. But it remains the case that his signature policy achievements--welfare reform and trade--were the result of his ability to shift Democrats toward the center. When Mr. Obama was last heard talking about trade, it was to complain that Americans had lost their jobs for "a cheaper T-shirt" and to promise to "amend" Mr. Clinton's Nafta with stricter labor agreements.

This is no Joe Lieberman, who seeks to keep his party from jumping off a foreign policy cliff. Mr. Obama criticizes any Democrat who supported the Iraq war. This is no Daniel Moynihan, who favored private Social Security accounts as a means of alleviating wealth inequality. In 2005, Mr. Obama suggested private accounts were a form of "social Darwinism." This is no former Louisiana Sen. John Breaux, who wanted to transform Medicare into a system that would help seniors buy insurance on the private market. Mr. Obama has blasted Medicare Advantage, and boasts of his votes to pour more money into today's failing government-run system.

As for Mr. Obama's claim he is no slave to "rigid ideology," consider his voting record. National Journal in March released its 2006 annual rankings of Congress based on key roll call votes, and Mr. Obama was found to be more liberal than 86% of his senatorial colleagues. To the extent he's teamed up with Republicans, it has been on issues popular with the electorate, say, more government transparency. Back in 2005, when a bipartisan group of 14 senators agreed not to filibuster President Bush's judicial nominees, Mr. Obama's name was notably not on the list.

Mr. Obama has offered reforms.

<snip>

Much of his American Dream agenda--refundable tax credits for college tuition, more after-school programs, annual minimum wage hikes--is an extension of the increasingly standard Democratic play off "income inequality," and would result in a bigger federal government. Most would also be paid for by rolling back the Bush tax cuts. Tax and spend; this is pretty standard Democratic stuff.

So what is his plan? He may have let it slip in a recent interview, when he explained that a big reason he should be the Democratic nominee is that he could carry his party to a sweeping congressional victory that would provide a "mandate for change." "I mean, if we have a 50-plus-one election, we cannot get a serious health-care bill done. We can't have a serious agenda on climate change," he said.

That doesn't sound like a man who wants to work with Republicans toward a bipartisan era. It sounds like a man who wants to crush his opponents at the polls, and then bulldoze his agenda through an enfeebled opposition. There isn't anything necessarily wrong with that; it's what politicians have been trying to do for decades. But it's certainly nothing new.

<i>Ms. Strassel is a member of The Wall Street Journal's editorial board.</i>



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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:27 AM
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1. Looks like the takeover of the WSJ by Murdoch is completed
They might as well change the name to Faux News Journal.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:37 AM
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5. In all fairness ...
the WSJ Editorial page has been one of the most conservative in the nation for years. Back in the 90s, they would running editorials saying Clinton needs to be investigated for 'X', while 5 pages earlier, their news division had an article about how 'X' was false.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:11 PM
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12. Yeah, Murdoch didn't need to turn the editorial page of the WSJ to the right. . .
. . .if anything he will probably make it more liberal.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:42 PM
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18. Yes, the WSJ in RW, but then what about the clear preference for HRC over Obama?
nt
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:36 PM
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20. You would have to ask them ...
newspapers during primary season usually pick a Dem and repug.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:19 PM
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23. Whichever Democrat the WSJ will support -- it surely isn't Barack Obama! nt
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:30 AM
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2. Wow
If they keep going like this they might really sell me on Obama!
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:32 AM
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3. Congressional Democrats have been "too liberal" --- ha,ha,ha
This is a textbook example of Corporate Conserevative spin.

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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:34 AM
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4. To me, that's an endorsement!
Something like this from the WSJ should be a proud feather in Obama's cap!
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:40 AM
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6. No kidding...and pray tell what "foreign policy experience" did the current occupant of 1600 Penn Av
..bring to the table when he was installed by his old man's buddies?

How about absolutely fucking zero?

:eyes:

It seems that the WSJ is worried that their inevitable pinata won't be chosen after all...
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:18 PM
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14. Aw, it was his "service", man!
Dubya kept the Vietcong out of Houston! He's a war hero!
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:44 AM
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7. I know! I like him even more after reading this. nt
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 11:47 AM
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8. Wall Street Journal endorses Barack Obama!
:D

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:01 PM
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9. They know Obama has Repub-crossover appeal. They're trying
to warn their R readers by pointing out how progressive he is. Nice!
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:06 PM
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10. What the fucking, fucking, fuck?
"Washington is gridlocked in part because congressional Democrats have attempted to govern with an agenda that is too liberal even for many in their own party."

Dude, can I buy some pot from these guys?
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:44 PM
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22. no but maybe some OxyContin - eom
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:07 PM
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11. Pat Buchanan said it best for conservatives: We're counting on Hillary Clinton....
to bring us Republicans together for the general election.

Should Obama or to a lesser degree, Edwards, win the nomination, they would be harder to beat, simply because the country is in a pro-Democratic voting mode, and the die hard Republicans are disillusioned enough with their party not to make great efforts to vote. However, Hillary Clinton is so hated among the Republicans that her name on the ticket would be enough to galvanate a movement among the Republicans to go to the voting booth.

I sincerely hope the Democratic nominee, whoever that may be, will win the General Election. But the fact is...the Republicans are most afraid of any non-Hillary candidate, if only because the Republicans don't hate them enough to go vote to beat them.

Maybe the WSJ is trying to generate a little hatred for the other Dem. candidates, as well, so as to ensure Republican voter turnout? Hmmmm. Could be. Could be.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:33 PM
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16. Very good points
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:40 PM
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17. The Repubs have made a fine art of...
Ridiculing Hillary, and they've had years to prepare more material for such an occasion. Karl Rove would come out of the woodwork.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:33 PM
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28. The pubs cannot wait for hil to win the nom. They are going to tear her apart. :(((((
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:17 PM
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13. Common ground, not middle ground
Big difference. Obama has no intention to sell out working Americans the way too many Democrats have done in the past. He knows there are Independents and disenchanted Republicans who support economic justice and social fairness and are just victims of the right wing propaganda machine. All he intends to do is to talk to them with respect so they will listen to his views. And like he says, if you can't win them over with honest debate, then you have to use all you've got to beat them.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:29 PM
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15. Since when do the OP's of WSJ mean anything at DU?
Their editorials are always ignored by people with one ounce of democracy in them.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:44 PM
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19. The OP's of the WSJ are a good barometer ....
of what big money on Wall Street prefers. And if we see they are more afraid that Obama will be too progressive for them, maybe all these attempts (eg Krugman) to paint Obama as too far to the right for liberals is, well, overly protestated......
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:40 PM
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21. Looks like the plan might be coming apart
Hillary , the "business " candidate. According to Murdoch and CNBC, especiallyLarry Kudlow.

All their support won't work if Democratic voters don't cooperate. We're not as pliable as the republican electorate.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:34 PM
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24. "That doesn't sound like a man who wants to work with Republicans toward a bipartisan era."
"That doesn't sound like a man who wants to work with Republicans toward a bipartisan era. It sounds like a man who wants to crush his opponents at the polls, and then bulldoze his agenda through an enfeebled opposition."

I truly hope so.
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 04:14 PM
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25. I think there is an very short saying that fits him somewhat
that to lead one should use both a carrot and a stick, Obama is willing to use the carrot as well, and not jump right on the stick to beat people around

Personally i think if he can convince people to his side of the argument then thats better then browbeating them, tho I'm also of the view that if they are being stubborn he should bulldoze them in that instance(how is that similar saying again, an iron hand in a velvet glove?)
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:30 PM
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26. Exactly -- the message of harmony by Obama should not be read mechanistically
which is what the HRC camp tried to do for a while, countering even the slightest hint of ANY criticism by Obama as a betrayal of his supposedly 'positive' message. Obama is obviously opposed to the UNNECESSSARY polarization of society, and he believes that much of the polarization of society on issues is trumped up, including by politicians and others pushing wedge issues.

In my own ARROGANT opinion, the enormous fuss being made about letting McClurkin even SING for his campaign as if Obama had endorsed McClurkin's views on gay sexuality (in order to pander) is an example of such unnecessary polarization from at least a presumptively progressive direction. (For which I am cast as 'soft on bigotry')
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:31 PM
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27. Fuck Murdoch, what a fucking tool he is.
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 05:32 PM by annie1
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 06:03 PM
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29. Murdoch isn't a "tool", but a wielder of 'tools' nt
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