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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:16 PM
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Poll question: Hillary Clinton will not finish higher than 3rd place in Iowa
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:18 PM
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1. From your keyboard to God's ears
....and even our atheist friends said "AMEN" ! O8)
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:20 PM
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2. to soon to tell
but i`m figuring a close 2nd..
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:30 PM
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3. Even if she finishes third in Iowa which is highly unlikely
It's still a win win situation for her. Now if Edwards were to finish in 1st place which is highly probable, then your candidates campaign is essentially over.
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:47 PM
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6. I agree with ya.
The media is setting Obama up for a fall. If the hype continues he'll HAVE to finish 1-2 or the media will be all over him ala Dean.

But I think Edwards takes it, at least if the status quo remains. As much as I don't want him to be our nominee he has out-organized the other campaigns (he's had a long time here in Iowa). On top of the organization (which is key in a caucus state), he's been able to stay away from the dust ups between Obama and Clinton.

My prediction, Edwards-1, Clinton-2, Obama-3. It will take a strong campaign and an experienced campaigner to get past the media after a 3rd place finish in Iowa.

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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:39 PM
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11. What, using the current trends as evidence, would make you think that Obama could fall to third?
The caucus is only 3 weeks away.
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 01:29 AM
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12. Well, using current trends of polling, you'd be right.
But I am looking at on-the-ground campaigning and, at least in my area, the organization of the Obama campaign to secure actual caucus-goers (as opposed to supporters) is lacking. Does that mean that what I see is reflective of Obama's entire Iowa campaign? Of course not. But if it IS any indication, I stand by my prediction.. which after all, is only that - my prediction.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:31 PM
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4. don't be shocked if she doesn't make that
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:41 PM
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5. These polls..
Anything to do with Hillary is completely skewed by those that WANT her to fail. You could ask if she'll beat Kucinich and I bet it'd go in DK's favor.

Objectively, I think she'll do well - 2nd or 3rd depending upon how the coming weeks go. I'll likely caucus for her, but in my opinion Edwards' camp has done too well over the last 5 years or so as far as organization goes. Obama's got a great message, and is polling well, but I don't think he's doing enough to ensure that support translates to caucus goers. I think Clinton is doing well organizing key support, but not doing enough outreach, and her staff is making too many mistakes.

We'll see.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:10 PM
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7. My, my...look at all the wishful thinking.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:12 PM
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8. Ill admit it
I wish with every fiber of my being that this turns out to be true.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:32 PM
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9. Iowa is still Hillary's to lose
and her campaign is working hard to do just that. I would predict a big win for Obama except I fear they are counting too much on the youth vote. I predict Edwards and Obama will end up neck and neck for the win.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:38 PM
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10. I don't care where Obama and Hillary finish as long as they don't get the nomination. /nt
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 01:31 AM
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13. You Just Keep Telling Yourselves That, Dears!
:hi:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 01:33 AM
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14. I don't know.
It still depends. A lot can change. Hillary is looking for dead hookers in Obama's past. Maybe one of the campaigns will come up with a Christmas Surprise.
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