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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:46 PM
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Biden calls for Special Counsel to investigate CIA
(CNN)–Sen. Joe Biden, D-Delaware, says the Justice Department needs to go further than it has, by calling for the appointment of Special Counsel to investigate the CIA's destruction of videotapes that included the interrogation of terrorism suspects.

“Under federal law, the Attorney General may appoint a Special Counsel to prosecute matters when he or she determines that an investigation by the Department itself would present a conflict of interest, or there are other extraordinary circumstances and it would be in the public interest to do so. I believe these conditions are met," the Democratic presidential hopeful said in a news release Sunday.

“This is a White House that has sanctioned and pushed for the kind of interrogation techniques captured on those video tapes," Biden said. "This is a White House that was informed of the CIA’s desire to destroy those tapes. Thus, it is possible this investigation could lead to the White House."

More at: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/09/biden-calls-for-special-counsel-to-investigate-cia/

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:53 PM
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1. And that pig Jay Rockefeller said on TV that we didn't need a special counsel
I guess Rockefeller trusts Bush's Attorney General, the man that thinks that waterboarding is not torture, more than he does an impartial investigation.

Biden is right!
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 10:58 PM
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2. I saw that
Too many Dems have been playing it "safe" for too long. It is about time someone says it like it is.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 12:37 PM
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9. Wrong. Rockefeller wants to do an investigation in his Committee.
That, of course could lead to a call for a special counsel.
Rockefeller knows better than to trust anyone in the Junta!!
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 11:12 PM
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3. As Sen. Biden is always reminding us, this president can't be trusted.
Edited on Sun Dec-09-07 11:59 PM by ginchinchili
Neither can his appointees. We already know what sort of conclusion a Bush appointee will come up with. Bush will be let off the hook, so why even bother unless we get a Special Counsel to investigate the matter?
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 11:59 PM
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4. K
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 12:07 AM
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5. Kick
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 12:20 AM
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6. But will we get one? And what will the news cycle be spinning by tomorrow..
Edited on Mon Dec-10-07 12:22 AM by K Gardner
Will it be glitz and glam, Oprabama style... or the very serious constitutional crisis the media wants to avoid at all costs. It wasn't convenient for them to demand ALL THE VOTES be counted in 2000. Why, we could have had a constitutional crisis! By 2004, there was no fight left in even our candidates that our votes be counted.. it was a given that the media would turn on them, on us. Iraq went by, without a flutter. When will it become popular, or newsworthy, not to cover up this chyte??!! Maybe when we demand it.

Edited to add: Maybe when Joe Biden, and a few others with his moral fortitude demand it. He did say there were some things worth losing an election for. Maybe saving this country is one of them.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 12:03 PM
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7. I'm guessing -- from what the response has been -- that he'll have very little
support for this. I'm concerned that his fellow Sens may be pissed that he doesn't want to keep it 'in house'.

You're absolutely right about not trusting this administration. Although NOBODY could be as bad as Gonzales, Mukasey wasn't willing to come out and admit that waterboarding was torture, indicating a willingness to toe the admin's line. As Biden said on This Week, how could we possibly trust anything that this administration's attorney general was involved with?

I'm also hoping for some sort of investigation - or whatever they have - into the NIE. The point isn't whether or not it's "valid" as the Reps are saying in trying to discredit it, but that Cheney sat on this while banging the Iran war drum, knowing that the intel didn't back him up.


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murbley40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 12:36 PM
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8. kick
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 12:38 PM
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10. The INFERENCE: Bush ordered the evidence destroyed!!
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 01:06 PM
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11. That indicated by his reference to the Nixon administration
that this administration was Nixon minus the competence.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 01:08 PM
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12. Do You Think...
it is possible that Pelosi chose Hoyer over Murtha because she sfelt that Murtha wouldn't keep his mouth shut on this issue?

-Paige
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 01:37 PM
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13. I don't know
Murtha has a LOT of baggage that I don't think the Dems wanted to come out of the closet.
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