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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:06 PM
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Frank Rich: The Republicans Find Their Obama
==Could 2008 actually end up being a showdown between the author of “The Audacity of Hope” and the new Man from Hope, Ark.?

It sounds preposterous, but Washington’s shock over Mike Huckabee’s sudden rise in the polls — he “came from nowhere,” Robert Novak huffed last week — makes you wonder. Having failed to anticipate so much else, including the Barack Obama polling surge of days earlier, the press pack has proved an unreliable guide to election 2008. What the Beltway calls unthinkable today keeps turning out to be front-page news tomorrow.

...What really may be going on here is a mirror image of the phenomenon that has upended Hillary Clinton’s “inevitability” among Democrats. Like Senator Obama, Mr. Huckabee is the youngest in his party’s field. (At 52, he’s also younger than every Democratic contender except Mr. Obama, who is 46.) Both men have a history of speaking across party and racial lines. Both men possess that rarest of commodities in American public life: wit. Most important, both men aspire (not always successfully) to avoid the hyper-partisanship of the Clinton-Bush era.

Though their views on issues are often antithetical, Mr. Huckabee and Mr. Obama may be united in catching the wave of an emerging zeitgeist that is larger than either party’s ideology. An exhausted and disillusioned public may be ready for a replay of the New Frontier pitch of 1960. That pitch won’t come from Mr. Romney, a glib salesman who seems a dead ringer for Don Draper, a Madison Avenue ad man of no known core convictions who works on the Nixon campaign in the TV series, “Mad Men.” Mr. Romney’s effort to channel J.F.K. last week, in which he mentioned the word Mormon exactly once, was hardly a profile in courage.

...The real reason for Mr. Huckabee’s ascendance may be that his message is simply more uplifting — and, in the ethical rather than theological sense, more Christian — than that of rivals whose main calling cards of fear, torture and nativism have become more strident with every debate. The fresh-faced politics of joy may be trumping the five-o’clock-shadow of Nixonian gloom and paranoia favored by the entire G.O.P. field with the sometime exception of John McCain.

...To understand why he can’t be completely dismissed, consider last month’s Wall Street Journal-NBC News poll. Peter Hart, the Democratic half of the bipartisan team that conducts the survey, told me in an interview last week that an overwhelming majority of voters of both parties not only want change but also regard “reducing the partisan fighting in government” as high on their agenda. To his surprise, Mr. Hart found that there’s even a majority (59 percent) seeking a president who would help America in “regaining respect around the world.”==

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/opinion/09rich.html?ref=opinion

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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:09 PM
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1. ...
Hucksterbee = the white Obama!?!?!
:rofl:
Not. Even. Close.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:12 PM
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2. You're right.
He won't beat Obama; however, if it's Hillary vs. Huckabee, I have no idea how that will go.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:56 PM
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6. If its Obi gainst Hucky.....Hucky wins big time.....
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 02:48 AM
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12. No, no, no.
I totally disagree. Rich says that the support would come from those who don't want partisanship, and Huckabee may have a facade of that right now...

...but he's not. The man played bass at an honest-to-God Freeper event. He is a hater and a divider. If it's a contest on who's a uniter and who's more of the same old game, then it's Obama all the way.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 04:50 AM
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14. He is not all that he appears to be...he will lose to Hucky////
Obi needs 2ba3
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 06:20 AM
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15. Would you like to try that again?
Pretend I have no idea what you're talking about.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 10:35 AM
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19. Should Obi wins the nom....some of his support will switch to Hucky
BTW, I am not a Pub nor a Hucky supporter.

Huck will enjoy a surge of support which COULD bring him the Oval.

Why....because he is a Minister and Obi is not.

Is the Big O enough to sweep Obi into the Oval? Might be for now but....

If Oprah continues...I see a backlash between Black and White..... resulting in a loss for Obi.

I hope not....We need a DEMOCRAT in the WH

The Pubs are too conniving and are scammers to the Nth degree.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:20 PM
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3. Rev. Hucky being compared to Obama - somewhere Obama weeps.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:24 PM
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4. Huckabee is more of a surprise than Obama.
And I think they are doing well for different reasons. Huckabee is the only bright light in that bunch. Obama is doing well in sharp contrast with others.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 10:48 PM
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5. Must have written this before his "Quarrantine AIDS patients"
comments in 1992 came to light.

Go, Repukes, nominate Mike--there's SO much from his past to slam him with.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 11:04 PM
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7. Rich talks about Huckabee's "humane stand" and "benign style"...
Edited on Sat Dec-08-07 11:08 PM by antiimperialist
But Rich himself knows, because he wrote it in the article, that Huckabee helped release a serial rapist despite warnings from his victims that he would rape again, (not only did he rape again, but he committed murder) and pushed by Bill Clinton haters who thought Dumond had been incarcerated because one of his victims was Clinton's second cousin.
The more I read Rich and Dowd, the more I like Krugman.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-08-07 11:10 PM
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8. All this speculation about
"what if's"..now if there was just some substance instead of mostly bullshit.
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 12:56 AM
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9. Dem candidates had better wake up on illegal immigration.
Americans are sick of our immigration laws not being enforced. Illegal immigration will decide the 08 election and the Dem candidates had better be ready.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 02:27 AM
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10. Huckabee? You mean the guy who pestered the parole board in Arkansas to let a rapist free?
Who then proceeded to rape and kill, as the previous victims had warned? And all in order to "sock it" to Clinton?

Yeah, he scares me.
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Catsbrains Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 08:51 AM
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17. Yea, why doesn't the media mention this every time they talk about Huck?
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 02:30 AM
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11. This would be Obama vs Keyes Part 2
I would love to see Obama simply slice and dice Hucky to pieces with Wayne DuMont.

It will bring back very warm memories of when Obama just delivered the right jujitsu blow to Keyes and let that ass melt down during their 2004 Senate debate.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-09-07 02:49 AM
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13. Amen. n/t
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 06:34 AM
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16. Let's not "misunderestimate" Huckabee
Can we prove beyond doubt that Huckabee was responsible for releasing Wayne DuMont?

Recidivism is a problem in every state. It is not unique to Arkansas.

As a Christian, Huckabee can simply admit his mistake and ask for forgiveness.

Equally on the AIDS issue, he can say he changed his mind since 1992.

Maybe Huckabee is the "REAL DEAL" for "compassionate Conservatives"?
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Catsbrains Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 08:54 AM
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18. Then why did he sign death warrants..
as governor of Arkansas. I mean those murderers just made mistakes and deserve forgiveness.
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