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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:56 PM
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If you really want to know what your candidate has been up to...
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 01:05 PM by 1corona4u
or what they are all about, go to this site, and type in their name, in the all american patriot search. I did, and was amazed as to the returns. Seems someone is doing their job, while on the trail, and others....not so much.

And, just so you have a point of reference to compare, type in Joe Biden first, and see what he has been up to all these months. It's much different than all of the others....

http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/google_search

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:58 PM
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1. C'mon people - show us what your candidate has done -
Any takers?
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:01 PM
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2. It just infuriates me....all the rhetoric of how wonderful they all are...
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 01:03 PM by 1corona4u
all they care about is "winning". If ONE or the other of them "win", we all lose.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:01 PM
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3. Kooch looks about like I expected
One little gem:

October 2, 2007 -- WASHINGTON, D.C. – Five years ago tomorrow (Wednesday, October 3), Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich stood on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives to deliver an impassioned, point-by-point refutation of the Bush Administration’s arguments seeking passage of the Iraq War Resolution.

For days leading up to that moment, Kucinich also widely circulated his own independently conducted analysis of the “intelligence” that the Administration had presented to Congress in support of the resolution..

Eight days later, despite the warnings of Kucinich and 132 other members of the House whom he had managed to persuade to oppose this prelude to war, the majority of the House and the majority of the Senate gave the President the war powers he sought.

Among those supporting the “Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002" were Senators Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Chris Dodd, and Joe Biden, all of whom spoke forcefully in favor of the President’s strategy – all four of whom are now Democratic Presidential candidates. All four subsequently approved additional measures for supplemental appropriations to fund the war, as did Democratic Senator Barack Obama after he was elected to the Senate in 2004.

Now, five years after they approved a war that should never have been authorized in the first place, those same Democrats are scrambling to explain, excuse, or defend their votes. At the same time, the foremost among them are refusing to pledge an end to the war, admitting that it may extend well beyond 2013.

Kucinich, the only Democratic candidate for President who voted against the original war authorization and every war-appropriation since, has recently raised loud warnings, in the Congress and in public statements, that House-approved and Senate-approve measures targeted towards Iran are “dangerously and frighteningly similar” to those anti-Iraq resolutions approved five years ago.

No “commemorative” events are planned for Wednesday, but Kucinich is weighing a number of requests to discuss Iraq, Iran, and the prospect of a prolonged and expanded war in the Middle East.

(October 3, 2002, Floor speech: http://www2.kucinich.us/files/pdfs/IraqFloorSpeech2002.pdf)

(October 2, 2002: Independent Intelligence Analysis: http://www2.kucinich.us/files/pdfs/Oct2002Analysis.pdf)

Thanks for providing this resource!

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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:04 PM
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4. Exactly...
and him and Joe are the ONLY ones, active in DC, that are doing their jobs.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:05 PM
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5. Biden's my second choice
...he's a damned good man.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:06 PM
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6. And, ya know...
I hope I can articulate this right...but for all of the DK supporters, if DK doesn't make it, Biden's the next best thing you have..none of the others even come close....I hope you know what I mean...I think you do.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:16 PM
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7. I hear ya
...and am voting DK in the primaries. If he doesn't get the nod, I'd be happy as can be to vote for President Biden next November.

I understand that some people think DK voters should switch to Biden during the primaries, to get someone more electable that is close to our views. OTOH, some Edwards supporters think the same of Biden backers. :-)

I say, let's all work for our choice and let the best Dem win.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:18 PM
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9. dupe post
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 01:21 PM by 1corona4u
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:19 PM
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10. I wished my vote counted...
I'm in Flori-duh..so what I want doesn't matter.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:21 PM
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12. Dude, I'm in Ohio
My vote will likely never even be COUNTED....
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:16 PM
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8. They are actually doing their jobs while campaigning.
That says alot right there.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:11 PM
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14. Right, They are.
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:19 PM
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11. What specifically are you looking at with which candidate?
Rating the candidates on what they are doing starting with the best, list from best to worst, of course, in your opinion.

Also, what are the downsides of Biden?....
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:23 PM
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13. I'm not "rating' anyone...I'm leaving it up to the observer...
I did, however, state my opinion on it. I see no downside to Biden. At all.
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 06:51 PM
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15. What about his alleged associations with CC companies/banking?
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 06:53 PM by madmunchie
I have listened to Biden for the last few years or so when he was discussing Iraq. And from all of the other Dems, he spoke the most eloquently and logically and used detail. Other candidates/Dems basically were using broad sweeping statements. Biden voted for the IWR and for that I will never forget. That decision has sealed the deal with other candidates - JE& Clinton.. but with Biden I get a sense that although he made an error with his vote (which I still for the life of me do not understand), Biden has had a consistent evolution on his verbage. I could see how he honestly vote in favor of the IWR, immediately saw that it was being badly handled, and used specifics in talking about what the problems were. Which in comparison to the other candidates now, JE still was in support of the war 2 years after it was started and 1-1/2 years after it was obviously going horribly, and well, we won't even go into the HC position.

I see Biden being unequaled on the Foreign Policy judgment and knowledge. Although I have heard from other friends that he is too hawkish overall. Domestic Policy is a very big unknown area right now.

What would you like to share, if anything?
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