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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:08 PM
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Biden: "If that's true, he's one of the most incompetent presidents in modern American history"
Democrats incredulous over Bush's account of Iran report



http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/04/bush.iran/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Joe Biden on Tuesday said he can't believe President Bush hasn't known for months about a recent intelligence estimate that downplays the nuclear threat from Iran.

On Tuesday the president acknowledged he had given a speech warning that Iran's nuclear development risked "World War III" about two months after his intelligence chief told him a reassessment of Tehran's nuclear ambitions was under way. Bush told reporters during a White House news conference that he was not told the details of the new assessment until last week and he said the new report, which found that Iran had halted its nuclear weapons work in 2003, will not change U.S. policy toward Iran. "Iran was dangerous, Iran is dangerous and Iran will be dangerous if they have the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon," Bush said, pointing out that Tehran continues to try to enrich uranium for civilian purposes and therefore develop technology that could be used for a weapon. "They had the program. They halted the program. It's a warning signal because they could restart it," he said. Video Watch President Bush call Iran 'dangerous' Bush told reporters that he was told of "new information" about Iran in August during a briefing by Adm. Mike McConnell, the director of national intelligence.

Biden, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, called that explanation "unbelievable." "Are you telling me a president that's briefed every single morning, who's fixated on Iran, is not told back in August that the tentative conclusion of 16 intelligence agencies in the U.S. government said they had abandoned their effort for a nuclear weapon in '03?" Biden asked in a conference call with reporters.

"I refuse to believe that," he added. "If that's true, he has the most incompetent staff in modern American history, and he's one of the most incompetent presidents in modern American history."
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:15 PM
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1. kick
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:15 PM
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2. me too
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:18 PM
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4. Is that true?
Oil was $25 a barrel when Bush invaded Iraq?

You do mean GW in 2003????
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:35 PM
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29. Sad but very true!
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:17 PM
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3. See This DU Link - It has video from his Hardball appearance today
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 08:17 PM by democrat2thecore
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3793794

This thread discusses all of this and there is a link to his EXCELLENT appearance on Hardball today.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:18 PM
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5. i'm liking this guy more and more
he certainly is more interesting to listen to and can cut to the chase when the situation cries out for it.
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dieselrevolver Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:19 PM
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6. Biden tells it like it is
Kick
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:20 PM
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7. "one of"?
Quit holding back, Senator. These guys are breaking the mold... right along with the Constitution.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:22 PM
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9. "If"? "Then"?
Where's Biden been all of this time?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:32 PM
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12. He's been speaking out - you just haven't been listening.
His speeches are out there for public record if you want something to do. ;)
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:46 PM
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23. Perhaps it is less "not listening"
...and more that the media has been ignoring him when compared to the top tier.

-Paige
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:23 PM
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10. He said just what you want on Hardball, there was no "one of"
He got angrier as the day went on. :)
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:41 PM
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13. completely agree
ONE OF shoud be HE IS
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:22 PM
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8. It should be a surprise
just how awful the current White House resident is.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:25 PM
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11. And, Mr. Biden,
the most corrupt administration in history. Please, don't wait for an attack on Iran to call for impeachment. Now is the time.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:42 PM
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14. Joe is getting a huge amount of TV time today, which is good but also wrong because
he's been saying the SAME thing for months about Iran. It takes another damned revelation/crisis, etc., for people to start listening? Oh, NOW Chris Matthews wants to give him all sorts of time. Now, CNN wants to give him a headline story. Now, when it's convenient for them. Sorry, just pisses me off.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:46 PM
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18. I agree! Biden has been speaking out about Iran for almost the entire year.
Now they start listening??

But - hey - what perfect timing...1 month before the Iowa caucus.;)
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:16 PM
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27. Yep, It'll still be fresh in people's minds...
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:44 PM
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15. Yes, Biden always did trust Mr. Bush. He supposed could not believe
the president was deceiving the american people about Iraq.
dumbass fool. he knew better too. millions of americans knew better.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:46 PM
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16. Surely, Biden knew about Bush before now! nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:46 PM
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17. bushit didn't want to hear sadam had
no WMD or nuke plans, either. There have no surprises from the bushits in 7 years. World Domination and whatever it takes to get there and congress is just an impediment..but not the corporatemediawhores..they've been very helpful.
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LiberalinNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:49 PM
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19. Kick
I agree with Biden more and more!
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:08 PM
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20. Incompetent? I think not. He rules absolutely in spite of never winning one election.
He escapes miraculously from felony after felony, as do all of his people, all the while making millions, and even has almost half of the democrats in Congress working towards his goals....
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:09 PM
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21. No, Bush is one of the most deceitful and criminal presidents in history ---
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:38 PM
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22. Not incompetant...CRIMINAL. We have simply got to stop giving Bushler a free pass.
He knows what he is doing. They know what they are doing.

Committing felonies.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:50 PM
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24. I so totally, completely agree. What happened to the days when people could actually revolt?
Like, in the streets and stuff.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:02 PM
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25. Just have to do this one more time, cuz I like seeing that statement..
:kick:
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:37 PM
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28. O'Reilly is mad at Biden for calling Bush a lier.
Yep. O'reilly said tonight that his staff called Joe's office but none of their phone calls were returned.

O'Reilly said that "Joe Biden calling Bush a lier will hurt America's standing in the world".
:rofl:

But, but, but Bill. Don't you think it is actually BUSH who hurts America's standing in the world? I thought that was a no-brainer.
:rofl:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 07:54 AM
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30. Oh, this is GOOD. I can't wait to hear KO rip Bilbo apart for this tonight..
I think many, many more prominent/respected people, other than Biden, are going to find it a very popular thing to call Bush what he is: A LIAR.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:48 AM
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31. Bush lying hurts our standing in the world
NOT Biden or our other candidates pointing the lies out.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:23 AM
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32. Priceless
Being dissed by O'Reilly is a positive sign and the best endorsement a Dem can get! It is worth millions of $$$ of advertising.
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justinrr1 Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:12 PM
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26. Biden always tells it like it is
and he is always spot on! We desperately need him in the White House and to get him there he needs a little help with his finances, we should do what we can!
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murbley40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:15 AM
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33. kick
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:02 PM
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34. Well, it's NOT true...
but, he IS the most incompetent war criminal ever to have the job.
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crawfish Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:04 PM
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35. Perhaps his wife has been out of town...
and hasn't had a chance to read it to him.
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