Today the Repugs did the impossible: they made congressional Dems look even weaker

[jgraz]

Could anyone who watched that shameful spectacle of the vote on H.R. 333 come to any other conclusion? The Democratic leadership trying desperately to NOT have to spend a day or two in front of the cameras saying mean things about the least popular person in the country while the Repugs forced their hand, knowing that the Dems would do ANYTHING do avoid this confrontation. Pathetic.

I keep thinking that it's not possible to be any more ashamed of the leaders of my party, and they keep exceeding my expectations.

[Mojambo]

1. Today was not a good day.

And it wasn't because we lost. It was because, AGAIN, we refused to even compete.

[cuke]

2. So why help the repukes?

[jgraz]

5. Your point?

[cuke]

8. It's a question

not a statement

Your answer?

[jgraz]

9. So no point then

I thought so.

[cuke]

12. So, no answer then

I guess there is no reason to help the repukes

[jgraz]

21. Right. No point in answering pointless questions

Nice to see you're finally catching on. :hi:

[Faryn Balyncd]

28. Who exactly is helping the Republicans, other than the Democratic leadership?

[cuke]

30. If the OP is to believed

the repukes are making the dems look weak. Ergo, anyone making the dems look weak is helping the repukes

You can argue that the dems deserve it. You can argue that it's true, the dems are weak.

But you can't argue against the facts that the repukes are making the dems look weak. Ergo, anyone making the dems look weak is helping the repukes

[Faryn Balyncd]

32. So you're saying that Hoyer & Pelosi making the Dems look weak helps the Republicans?

(linearly speaking, of course)

[cuke]

34. literally speaking

anyone who makes the dems look weak is helping the repukes, no?

[Faryn Balyncd]

35. yep.

(& I like that golden retriever)

[jgraz]

45. See? Pointless.

:P

[Harper_is_Bush]

3. Or they made themselves look like petty time-wasters.

guess it depends on your personal take.

[babylonsister]

4. Nah, it brought impeachment to the forefront! Finally! It's a start. nt

[ben_meyers]

6. Oh, but they stopped Mukasey, didn't they? n/t

[IndianaGreen]

22. When it comes to enabling torture and the imperial Presidency, our Dem leaders are second to none

When it comes to defending our freedoms and our Constitution, they are all AWOL.

[derby378]

7. The good news, however...

...is that impeachment has just been forced back onto the table. And for that, I rejoice.

And it's a privileged resolution, so Kucinich is free to bring it back over and over again until further notice.

[MuseRider]

17. And you just know he will

over and over and over. I LOVE it.

[mtnester]

10. Lately, it seems a wet noodle can accomplish that task

IMO, not impossible at all

My disgust level is reaching an all time high lately

[riqster]

11. I notice that the DK haters got real quiet this afternoon

..when the leadership tried to shut him up, he kept on going.

Yo, Steny-Dennis told the Mafia to fuck off when they put a contract on him. A pantywaist like you will not intimidate him.

[stimbox]

33. I wish I could Rec a post!

"Yo, Steny-Dennis told the Mafia to fuck off when they put a contract on him. A pantywaist like you will not intimidate him."

Freakin' brilliant post!

[AtomicKitten]

13. It was a disgusting spectacle.

The fault lines are forming. Those who believe in the Constitution are with DK on this.

[Zhade]

37. And I know that includes you.

We've fought in the past, but if there's one thing I know, you care about holding criminals accountable.

[surfermaw]

14. What do you want Jeb Bush as VP for a year

that is what you would have gotten if Dennis K, gets his way, why do you think Pelosi , held off with impeachment of Bush, the people in the know, don't want to chance putting a man in position to run for President in 2008 for instance Mitt Romney.

[sampsonblk]

18. Jeb Bush isn't going to be VP for a year

If that's the reason to avoid doing what's right, then that's a pretty ridiculous reason.

Notwithstanding that, Pelosi said impeachment was off the table last year during the election cycle. That pretty much clears up her reasoning. She thinks impeachment will not benefit the party leadership politically. Simple.

[MuseRider]

19. That is no reason

to let these criminals continue. So fucking what? Jeb? None of them would be able to even get their feet wet. I would actually take anyone, even old Jeb who I detest more than I even care to admit over Cheney.

Why on earth would being second in command to the worst president in history give anyone a boost for president when the people are screaming for change. It seems the Dems could have given them that change today but instead they sat on their hands and let the Republicans have their way with them once again. I will be surprised if 20% of the country even bothers to vote anymore.

[jgraz]

20. Which VP would be palatable enough for us to defend the Constitution?

:shrug:

[rufus dog]

31. shut the fuck up!

Like someone named Bush is going to be elected in 08!

Fucking pathetic!

[Zhade]

39. THANK you. I am so tired of the cowards here.

NT!

[cali]

15. spot on. it was shameful and pathetic

they got so punked.

[polichick]

16. I'm with you...it's a nightmare that just goes on and on...

...getting more and more surreal.

[Gloria]

23. Pathetic. No leadership, nowhere. They suck.

I'm becoming totally indifferent to it all now. To think, the Democrats have made me almost ready to not bother to listen anymore....or be an active citizen in the process.

[ShortnFiery]

24. True, just when I think that our Democratic Leadership in Congress

could not become any more CHICKEN-SHIT, they go and essentially "slobber all over" our criminal Executive Branch attempting to defend THEIR personal and political careers aspirations.

DAMN SHAMEFUL AND BORDERLINE TREASONOUS! :puke: :grr:

[rhett o rick]

25. Please, the repukes don't get credit for making the Democrats look bad. The Democrats get all the

credit. Hoyer and Pelosi, please tell us what is more important than reestablishing the rule of law?

[jgraz]

29. Too true. But, damn, did they get punked today

:banghead:

[senseandsensibility]

26. No the Dems made themselves look weaker

as is their wont.

[LWolf]

42. That's the real point. They do it to themselves. n/t

[onenote]

27. I'm truly amazed at the level of outrage about a result that has been predicted here for months

For months, some of us have been saying that the House will not take on the issue of impeachment because the Democratic caucus, in large part, doesn't support the effort. So today, DK takes a step, which I have no problem with him doing because the result was preordained, and it got some publicity for the effort, but the leadership, correctly in my view, made sure that DK's resolution didn't go down to inglorious defeat at the hands of a unanimous repub caucus plus enough red-state Democrats to leave it short of a majority.

My only complaint with DK's strategy is that I think it would've been better if his resolution had called for the Judiciary Committee to conduct an impeachment inquiry and report back to the full house (the approch taken in commencing the Nixon and Clinton impeachments) rather than attempting to go straight to impeachment by the full House without any inquiry by the Committee.

In the end, it probably wouldn't have made any difference in the way things worked out. Even the resolution I have described would probably have been referred to committee, leaving the committee free to do nothing. But it could've made it a bit more interesing imo.

[Zhade]

36. I'd argue that it was the Democrats' cowardice that did that more than anything.

NT!

[WCGreen]

38. Its a good thing, then, that no one was watching...

No one outside of a a small circle of freinds really cares about what is going on in the House...

MSNBC gave it a lot of play but really, when you are competing with the meltdown of an Islamic Nuclear Power, a pissing match in the House of Representatives really doesn't mean all that much...

[depakid]

40. My thoughts exactly

[Perry Logan]

41. Good morning, DUers. Here's your daily snit.

[jgraz]

43. Oh don't be so hard on yourself Perry

Most of your posts are too boring to rise to the level of snit.

[jmp]

44. lol

:)