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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 12:42 PM
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Obama fine-tunes Hillary distinctions
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/04/447185.aspx


SPARTANBURG, SC, Nov. 3 -- Under the banner of “Change We Can Believe In,” Obama fine-tuned his argument on why he should be president of the United States over Senator Clinton. He stressed his respect for Clinton and commonalities, but he also also directly questioned the way she practices politics.

“She’s also a skilled politician,” Obama said, “and she’s run what Washington would call a ‘textbook’ campaign. But the problem is the textbook itself. It’s a textbook that’s all about winning elections, but says nothing about how to bring the country together to solve problems. As we saw in the debate last week, it encourages vague, calculated answers to suit the politics of the moment instead of clear, consistent principles about how you would lead America. It teaches you that you can promise progress for everyday people while striking a bargain with the very special interests who crowd them out.”

Obama’s message was largely the same as it has been over these past two months, stressing the need to change politics in Washington. The difference with this speech was that he spent far less time stressing why his opponents thought he was inexperienced and more time on sketching out a vision on what he would like to see in his own administration.

Obama’s campaign did not say whether the stronger language regarding Clinton would become part of his regular stump speech, calling Saturday’s speech a “situational stump speech” given a year before the 2008 general election. The goal of the speech, according to the campaign, was to lay out Obama’s vision for his presidency.

The crowd at Converse College in Spartanburg, S.C., where Obama spoke, responded enthusiastically to his message and gave him several standing ovations. But the question of experience still dogged Obama after it was over.

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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 12:44 PM
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1. Fired up! Ready to go!
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 02:19 PM
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8. Is he still using that fictional "event"?
Last I heard it jappened in New Hampshire, Iowa, and/or South Carolina...
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 12:50 PM
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2. Oh my!
It would be so horrible if we nominated a candidate that "knows how to win elections"!

:sarcasm:
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 12:55 PM
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4. Bush knew how to win elections. So did Reagan.
Look where they took us to.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 02:08 PM
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6. So you're saying HRC is the same as Bush?
do I have that right?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 12:51 PM
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3. Who sang at this event?
n/t
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 12:58 PM
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5. Did McClurkin croon out a little ditty and preach a little bigotry there too?
Or did they find some other homophobe to do that for them?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 02:18 PM
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7. Obama called "Saturday’s speech a “situational stump speech”"
As situations change, so does Barack "Windsock" Obama.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 02:22 PM
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9. Well, he's sure right about the "textbook" itself being a problem...
It's certainly true that the system must be changed ~ I'd like to know which candidates are for public financing of elections and term limits.
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