Dennis needs to answer about whether or not he's following the UFO instructions, and what they are.

[LoZoccolo]

We have no idea what he was told by the UFO. They could be some instructions which sound good, but are designed to destroy our planet for the aliens' purposes, and we have no idea whether or not Dennis Kucinich is putting these instructions into policy either. Sun Tzu was written that all warfare is based on deception, and the aliens could be deceiving us right now using Dennis Kucinich's influence. They are obviously of superior intelligence because they went straight to the guy whose opinions match those of most of America, as shown by an online survey where you could vote more than once.

[flvegan]

1. Speaking of "superior intelligence"

[rucky]

2. He never confirmed or denied the "instructions" part of it.

He should've denied it at the debate to prevent speculation like this.

[LoZoccolo]

6. He should have, but he could answer the question right now too if he wanted.

I wanna know: is he under orders from another galaxy?

[rucky]

20. Apparently he did deny the rest of the account. n/t

[Eric J in MN]

15. Kucinich: "the rest of the account -- I didn't "

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/10/31/ufos.html

Tim Russert: The godmother of your daughter, Shirley MacLaine, writes in her new book that you sighted a UFO over her home in Washington state, that you found the encounter extremely moving, that it was a "triangular craft, silent and hovering," that you "felt a connection to your heart and heard directions in your mind." Now, did you see a UFO?

Kucinich: I did. And the rest of the account -- I didn't -- it was an unidentified flying object, OK? It's, like, it's unidentified. I saw something.

[rucky]

18. Thanks! I didn't catch that.

I assumed that was the case, but all the sudden hear people talking about it on the radio as if the whole McClaine account were categorically true.

[2rth2pwr]

29. That's a denial? wtf?

He needs to come out and just say that McClaine is lying and be done with it, because that is certainly not a clear denial.

[Eric J in MN]

32. I also want Kucinich to give a clearer answer. NT

NT

[LoZoccolo]

43. I think most people will not accept that interpretation when they see the actual video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G980aLrAwoM

[LeftyMom]

3. You're so transparent.

:eyes:

[LoZoccolo]

5. Are you saying then, that Dennis Kucinich might have lied to Shirley MacLaine?

I would think that if this story was true, the question of whether or not Kucinich is serving the interests of another planet by proxy is relevant to our own interests. Because he told the truth to Shirley MacLaine, right?

[LeftyMom]

7. I'm not sure YOU are serving the interests of this forum, let alone this planet. nt

[LoZoccolo]

9. If promoting Dennis Kucinich for president in this forum is in the interest of this forum...

...then I would think determining where his loyalties lie is in the interest of this forum as well.

[LeftyMom]

11. Yep, you've figured it out. He's the Manchurian Canidate from Vega Five.

:eyes:

How bored are you? Starting stupid threads like this all the time seems like an odd sort of amusement. I'd advise a hobby, like saving stamps or playing frisbee.

[LoZoccolo]

12. The other candidates do not deserve to be discredited...

...when compared to Mr. Honest Guy who seems to have told a tall tale to impress someone. How do you know he's not telling you something you want to hear, just to make you feel good, and just like he probably did to Shirley MacLaine?

Yes my threads are often satirical, but there are points to them.

[LeftyMom]

16. She's a nut. Seems nice enough, but I wouldn't base my opinion of anyone on what she says. nt

[flvegan]

13. Score one for Oasis!

Schtick may change, people don't.

[LeftyMom]

22. Yep.

'morning. :hug:

[flvegan]

24. Articles of Impeachment must be high on the agenda for aliens.

We should thank them, I suppose.

Aliens must also be pretty anti-war.

Hell, if Dennis is under alien control, I want to go live on their planet.

[LeftyMom]

25. Alien mind control would explain how he scored such a hottie.

:shrug:

[flvegan]

26. Can we just start calling him Yoda and be done with it?

It would be a positive spin to the UFO/appearance/short thing. EVERYbody loves Yoda.

[LeftyMom]

27. Yoda's taller. nt

[flvegan]

28. Nobody's ever seen them in the same place at the same time.

And we don't really know that Yoda is taller.

[LeftyMom]

30. Are you suggesting they might be the same person?

Good point.

Maybe Dennis can do that force lightning thing to Bush at the next SOTU.

[Tumbulu]

49. Great idea!

Thanks for the good turn around.

In watching the little clip on youtube I thought that he was delightful.

[Prophet 451]

46. ROFLMAO, can I steal that line? n/t

[truedelphi]

50. Whoa. Ya know, maybe it all started with someone playing frisbee.

One of those extra large, neon colored, glowing lights when ya spin it.

And be sure not to play with it on a night that has a full moon.

In any case, I think it is less of a problem to see an unidentified flying object than to see Weapons of Mass Destruction lying around the desert sands of Iraq.

[Bonobo]

4. Go back to the Nader rap. This is just making you look like a teenage with a "tude".

Actually, on edit. I kind of like it. I think I will feed you for a while until you grow strong enough to be released.

[LakeSamish706]

8. Whats really sad is that none of the other Presidential candidates...

have the same balls that Kucinich has. If they did they would be openly standing beside him when attempts to Impeach Cheney. See video if you have not.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x67067

[LoZoccolo]

10. Dennis Kucinich has zero risk in saying what he says.

What does he have to lose? He is not going to win, so he will not have to do anything that he has promised. I would say that his "no" vote on the S-CHIP bill might have even been a little bit of self-sabotage: it was an action that only his current support base understood, that could alienate anyone outside of that base.

[LakeSamish706]

14. Whether he does or doesn't have anything to loose doesn't mean...

that the others shouldn't be saying it as well. I personally don't want a president that just wants to win an election. This country is going to need a whole lot more than that in order to climb back up out of the dumpster. Of course all of this election stuff will depend on whether or not the Bush Cabal does not pull a Musharraf move.

[riqster]

23. If you'll bother to notice, he voted FOR the override

...the first vote was assured of passage, so he could vote no safely and make a point. When his 'aye' was needed, he did the right thing.

DK is a hard-nosed SOB. Clevelanders know it, or he wouldn't have been re-elected all those times.

[rjones2818]

38. At least we know that you are willing

to throw legal immigrant kids to the curb. Y'see, he voted for the House version which included the legal immigrant kids, but when they were thrown to the curb in the 'compromise' bill he voted against it. He voted for the override, which actually wasn't needed because the leadership, which did the thowing of the legal immigrant kids to the curb, didn't make sure they had the votes for a override before they did it.

[denem]

17. YES He Did! - No driver's licenses for ET.

[riqster]

19. You're saying he should encourage this kind of horseshit distraction from substance?

The question was designed to keep him from gaining traction, to put him 'in his place'. He didn't handle it well at the debate, but has done better since, by ignoring it like the cheap shot it was.

Frankly, I liked the fact that people are scared enough of him to attack him. DK shows us that there is more than one way to be a democrat, which is a reality we all need to work with: but one which the newsies and DLC types would rather we forgot.

If they wanted to hammer him on substance, there's plenty of material to work with; his flip-flop on Roe, his attitude, his lack of 'presidential' demeanor, etc. All relevant to the conduct of the office he is trying to win. Quoting a nutbag like Shirley as a reliable source that Kooch must answer to in order to be credible, that's just ludicrous. Anybody who serioiusly thinks space aliens beam instructions into peoples' heads need to have his own examined.

And...dude...Kucinich isn't Nader. DK works within the party to enlarge the tent, while Nader worked on the part of the Reeps to rip that tent down. I am right behind you with your Nader attacks, but you're comparing apples to oranges.

[LakeSamish706]

21. One thing that you failed to mention in your OP is that many past Presidents ...

have been involved with ESP, psychics, etc.... So its nothing new to the office... Dennis said that he saw a UFO, big deal cause many have made that claim...

[Forkboy]

31. Don't take the bait people.

Here's this...er...poster's approach to "helping" DU in a nutshell, and his own words.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x7059973

[LoZoccolo]

33. Uh, no.

If that's what you think about that post, you didn't get it.

[Forkboy]

34. Well maybe someday you should say what you mean.

Then you wont have to worry about it.Or you could keep thinking you're as clever as a stick in bucket of pig swill and deal with the results.

[LoZoccolo]

35. I think I did so right in that thread.

Go look at my other replies.

[CyberPieHole]

40. Thanks, Forkboy...

I was getting ready to reply to the OP. I checked out the link...that was the last piece of the puzzle...:hi:

[LoZoccolo]

41. Don't forget this one, then.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x7059973#7059977

[LoZoccolo]

42. I find it interesting, too, that he chose to take the post out of context...

...when he already understood it. The response I pointed to was addressed to him. Clearly it is Forkboy who is toying with people.

[Forkboy]

54. Nice try, Sparky.

Nothing out of context.I posted the whole post from you.You might want to think about your approach if you're upset by people taking your own words the wrong way.The "context", as it were, was added after your initial OP.

As for toying with people, that's pure projection on your part.That's all you've ever done here.You've certainly done nothing on DU to help Democrats.Fuck Nader and mocking DK may give you a chubby but that's all it's doing.Your "satire" is a fucking joke, but not in a good way, and your posts just go out of their way to divide DUers.

You made your bed, you sleep in it.

[LoZoccolo]

55. Why would I out of the blue post a serious message that says it is fun to bother people?

And why would I make reference to everyone else's posts if I were not making fun of them?

I can't stop you from believing what you want, but if you want other people to believe it too, then you have a lot of loose ends to tie up.

Your "satire" is a fucking joke, but not in a good way, and your posts just go out of their way to divide DUers.

Voting for a third-party candidate to try to make the government more progressive is not already a joke? And not divisive?

[LoZoccolo]

56. Also...

The "context", as it were, was added after your initial OP.

I had to do that because you didn't get it. I don't like to have to explain my joke; something gets lost. Maybe I should provide a link at the bottom of my posts that people can click if they have trouble with it, so I can simultaneously avoid spoiling the humor and having other people get confused.

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[FredScuttle]

36. Swiftboat Martians for Truth

"Congressman Kucinich claimed he saw our ship and received instructions, but there is ample evidence that he exaggerated his claims and may have even engineered a fake UFO to claim credit."

[Name removed]

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[gateley]

39. People need to quit expending energy on this non-issue. Including me. nt

[ladjf]

44. UFO is not synonymous with space aliens. Many flying objects

are unidentified. Dennis didn't say that he saw space people or talked with them.

[IndianaJones]

45. he's an idiot.nt.

[Gregorian]

47. "Impeach you leader."

Maybe they'll probe Cheney.

[eridani]

48. What is it about "unidentified" = "we don't know what it is" --

--is it that you don't understand? Do we need to know whether aliens in the UFO that Jimmy Carter saw instructed him to start Habitat for Humanity?

[2rth2pwr]

51. Only if he said they gave him directions in his mind

and they smelled really good, like a bouquet.

[nosmokes]

52. Aren't you a bit weary from sucking up to the *electable* DLC moderates

all the time?

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[Bonobo]

58. I just wanted to shed some more light on this moldy thread.

Dennis Kucinich stood up for the people of America today and for the voice of what is right.

Anti-torture, rule of law, anti-preemptive war, etc.

I think this OP tells us all we need to know and I would love to see everyone wake up to who our neighbors are.

[Bonobo]

59. Kicking this great post one more time!

[Bonobo]

60. People who marginalize our best spokesmen need to be able to answer why.

Why did you post this LoZoccolo?

[ileus]

61. That' would be great indeed...I'd love to know the answers.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

63. If aliens told him to introduce H.R. 333, then I hope he hears from them again

since the other candidates who don't get instructions from UFOs don't seem to have enough guts to stand up to this administration. And furthermore, I hope he asks the UFOs to land in D.C. and conduct some of their anal probing on the members of the Bush Administration who like torture, plus a whole lot of Democrats who don't mind being complicit in it.

But thank you for your concern, anyway.

[Maven]

64. Kick.

For old times' sake.