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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:05 PM
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30% of SC Democratic voters undecided...
Yes, maybe Hillary is leading in SC polls being put out lately, but how many of those polls are revealing that 30% of the voters are still undecided? Don't believe those who are saying Hillary has SC wrapped up. Hillary will not win SC.

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/local/story/237203.html

Clinton holds lead in state
Clinton leads state with 30 percent undecided
By Aaron Gould Sheinin - McClatchy Newspapers
U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton has a double-digit lead in South Carolina heading into the state's January Democratic presidential primary, a new poll shows.

But the latest Winthrop/ETV poll shows Clinton's margin is narrower than in most other early voting states.

Clinton, of New York, leads U.S. Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois by 33 percent to 22.7 percent among registered voters who say they are likely to cast a ballot in the state's Democratic primary, according to the poll, released Thursday.

Former U.S. Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, the Seneca native who won the 2004 S.C. primary, has slid into single digits - at 9.6 percent.

While the poll shows Clinton maintaining a double-digit lead over Obama, it found nearly 30 percent of S.C. Democrats have yet to choose a candidate, meaning the race still is wide open.

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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:09 PM
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1. i don't live in SC and
i'm still undecided. right now i'm with obama, but the primaries are still 4 months away.
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Think82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:43 PM
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9. BIDEN!
If he gets out of Iowa, he predicted he would win SC. Most people make up their minds in the last 10 days.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:10 PM
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2. Wow, that Southern white male native son thing doesn't seem to be working nt
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 08:30 PM
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12. I think John will still be the winner!
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:13 PM
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3. Hillary doesn't have it in the bag
but there's no reason to think she won't win it any more than Obama would win it. Edwards is in trouble though.
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:19 PM
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4. Undecideds break for the challenger 80% of the time....
I consider Obama the challenger here. Everyone knows Hillary and her record and yet 30 percent are still undecided about her.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:25 PM
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5. 30% haven't decided on anyone yet,
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 05:31 PM by seasonedblue
and I've never heard of 80% of that group going to the challenger, although I'm sure Obama picked up some votes on his much talked about gospel tour.

On edit: It's the incumbent rule, and I'm not sure that Obama qualifies:

http://www.mysterypollster.com/main/2004/10/the_incumbent_r.html

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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:40 PM
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7. Yes, it is the incumbent rule...
..AS I SAID, I consider Obama a challenger as everyone knows Hillary and her record. I was saying that it seems the same theory applies here, to me. But if you insist on splitting hairs....
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:44 PM
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10. Honestly I'm not trying to split hairs,
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 05:46 PM by seasonedblue
the data just seems to be based on sitting presidents or incumbents in other offices where the challenger is much less well known. Maybe you're right about Obama vs Clinton, I can't really make any conclusions about that factor.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:39 PM
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6. Great news for Hillary Clinton
Clinton has 47% of those who have decided (33% of the 70% who have decided.)

Obama has 32% of those who have decided (22.7% of 70%.)

Edwards has 14% of those who have decided (9.6% of the 70%.)

Obama would have to get 15% out of the 30% undecided vote to tie with Clinton: that is 50% of the undecided voters would have to swing towards Obama. Not terribly likely un less Clinton campaign craters.
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hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:42 PM
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8. I live in SC, and from all appearances

obama has a strong following. I would expect the undecideds to
break mostly his way, and for him to run strong in SC.

I am a little surprised, actually, at the 11 point lead.

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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 05:45 PM
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11. Time for another gospel concert
since the first one didn't seem to do the trick, get Rev. Donnie on the Homophone!
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