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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 09:56 AM
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Newsweek: Clinton 43%, Obama 24%, Edwards 12% in post-debate poll
Just announced on MSNBC.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 09:59 AM
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1. Previous Newsweek poll in August had it 44-23-14, so not much change
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:05 AM
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3. OK - so it has pretty much stayed the same.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:00 AM
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2. Must be the sympathy vote.
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:08 AM
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4. Thom Hartmann Telephone Straw Poll: 41 calls for Edwards, 21 Kucinich, 7 Obama, 1 Hillary, 1 Gore...
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 10:11 AM by tiptoe
Friday, Nov 2
Thom Hartmann's Rapid Fire Telephone Call-In Straw Poll Results: "Who would you vote for?"

between 4 and 8 secs per call (rapidfire call ins)

Callers identified by Zipcode when possible

Total callers:

41 Edwards

21 Kucinich

7 Obama

1 Richardson

1 Hillary

1 Dodd

1 Gore

0 Biden & Grave
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:29 AM
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5. Edwards ALLWAYS seem to win staw poll after another but the socalled....
reliable polls that these polling companies do claim he's in the very low teens nation wide. makes you wonder if the fix is in for this election.
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 01:15 PM
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11. Makes one wonder - A co-opted media + this newsitem (maybe you've seen it) == ...
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 01:21 PM by tiptoe
"shaping public opinion"?

09.07.06 Pollster guilty of fake data conspiracy


(How can Schumer and Feinstein even consider approving "vague-on-torture" Mukasey?!
Are some senators "drinking the Kool-Aid", as if "fait accompli" ...? Or is there something more complex going on??)
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 01:26 PM
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13. What's the margin of error for straw polls?
Just wondering.
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 02:09 PM
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14. I think the sampling isn't exactly "unbiased"...since the callers would be Hartmann listeners. nt
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 02:10 PM by tiptoe
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 02:58 PM
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20. infinity - it is neither random or representative
it is not statistical sampling.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 02:56 PM
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19. The straw poll is neither:
a random sample nor representative. Here, it reflects listeners to a left/liberal show.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:40 AM
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6. Who cares about a national poll? Show me a post debate poll from Iowa or New Hampshire..
then I'll pay attention.
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:48 AM
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7. national polls tell us what people who have not thought once about the election are thinking
about the election.

"Clinton? that's a name that was president, right? Ok, Clinton"
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:53 AM
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8. Newsweek: Still, Obama and Edwards both run significantly stronger than Clinton among independents
Still, Obama and Edwards both run significantly stronger than Clinton among independents. For example, in a head-to-head matchup against Republican contender Fred Thompson (who commands just 15 percent of GOP support), Clinton attracts 47 percent of the independent vote. Both Obama (56 percent) and Edwards (57 percent) draw a majority of the independent vote against the retired senator and "Law & Order" star.

But the poll results do somewhat call into question the Democratic frontrunner's electability come next November. Clinton's support tops out at 49 percent in trial heats against Giuliani, Thompson and Romney. Her four-point margin (49 percent to 45 percent) over Thompson and Romney is significantly less than Edwards's and Obama's performance in those head-to-heads. Obama and Edwards both lead Romney by 53 to 37 percent. Edwards leads Thompson 53 to 39 percent; Obama leads him 52 to 39 percent.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/67789
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:55 AM
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9. So, basically, Democrat primary voters are stupid...
..its sooooo frustrating.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:57 AM
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10. The bottom line is if the party is stupid enough to pick Clinton shes not the strongest....
general election candidate on our side.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 01:25 PM
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12. Only a 4 point difference after only Hillary has been "vetted" by the Corporate Media?
That's nothing. Imagine Obama's and Edward's numbers if they were to undergo the special treatment reserved only for Democratic front runners (Gore, Kerry, and now Hillary). After hair and houses and Rezco and gay-bashing and god knows what else Tim Russert and pals can Drudge up, I'm guessing their numbers would be no better, and quite possibly, worse than Hillary's.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 02:16 PM
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16. Independents will determine who becomes the next president, not the GOP or Dem base.
If independents tilt even a few percentage points in the wrong direction, then it'll be, "Hello, President Giuliani!"

I have no doubt Hillary commands great numbers among the Democratic faithful, it's the swing voters I am worried about.
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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 02:12 PM
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15. The real voters ignore the crap MSNBC called debate journalism
Go Go Hillary!
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 02:18 PM
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17. Clinton is TOAST!!!
:sarcasm:

I guess the pile-on failed to work.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 02:54 PM
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18. It may have been taken too early
The impact would be the debate and the couple of days after fighting over it. If my reaction were remotely typical, undecided would have the most momentum!
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 02:59 PM
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21. polls are bogus
Al Gore stated in his book, "Earth in Balance" that the polls are bogus to boost the candidate. The system is corrupt like Edwards said. The Republicans want Hillary to further their agenda. She has always voted for war, even recently on the Iran issue. The Republicans have called Hillary the frontrunner even before the campaigning was underway.

Please people, lets not fall for this again and again!
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