Clinton Sending 100 more to Iowa is a sign of concern not strength

[Perky]

Not for nothing but this comes right on the heels of Iowa finalizing the Caucus date. An early date while the college students are still at home on their break could be a boomlet for a other candidates more cuccinct on Iraq and Iran then she has been.

Note that I say concern...not desperation.

[cali]

1. nah, I doubt it.

she just wants to win there, and she can afford to pull out all the stops. She's been rising in the Iowa polls- not falling.

[journalist3072]

2. Exactly! eom

[emilyg]

39. Yep.

[ElizabethDC]

3. Well, all the candidates should be concerned about Iowa

Hillary's been leading in virtually every poll there for the past few weeks, but not by a truly comfortable margin. The other candidates should be busting their butts to try to catch up to her, and she should be busting her butt to try to sustain and extend her lead.

[Basileus Basileon]

4. I'm sure she's very concerned about her rising lead. nt

[DemFemme]

5. But, but, but, she's ahead in every single poll posted at DU. Resistance is futile!

Of course you're right.

Billary's Iowa job applications are all over the place in Washington, D.C. I'm sure the locals
will love them. Orange hats, anyone?

[aquart]

17. Cute names make you feel better?

What do people call YOUR candidate?

[Name removed]

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[DemFemme]

41. Considering their current "two-for-one" approach to campaigning, it's apt.

I've heard Barack Obama called the nastiest names under the sun and I have never scolded them or tried
to censor them because I believe in free speech, even from paid astroturf.

[MonkeyFunk]

57. Oh dear,

it seems our friend is no longer with us.

[ronnykmarshall]

58. Good riddance

[MonkeyFunk]

23. Again with the "Billary"

it's a right-wing slur. You should stop using it. It makes you look petty and stupid.

[Inspired]

25. I kind of like Billary. It's better than Hillbilly.

But of course you don't like it!

[MonkeyFunk]

28. What's wrong with calling her

Hillary or Sen. Clinton? Why use childish nicknames that are in vogue with the right-wing?

[Inspired]

29. Actually, I don't call her anything other than Hillary.

I just think the name Billary is rather tame. I've seen worse. Hillbilly is worse.

[DemFemme]

30. Bwahahaha!! I like HillBilly better!

You are well-named, Inspired. ;-)

[DemFemme]

32. Not at all. I think it's rather apt, given their two-for-one approach to campaigning.

It's similar to saying Brangelina and Bennifer, if you follow the entertainment world.

[MonkeyFunk]

36. but those names are used when referring to the couple

you're referring to Hillary as "Billary". It's stupid, and perpetuates a right-wing talking point.

[Inspired]

38. But aren't we referring to them as a couple?

You don't really think this is all about Hillary do you?

[DemFemme]

40. The couple are running a "two-for-one" campaign so if the name fits, wear it.

Billary, Brangelina, Bennifer, they are/were all celebrity power couples joined at the hip and loving it
for all the PR, power, and money it's worth.

As for right-wing talking points, Billary doesn't seem to have a problem creating them about her opponents
when they're feeding stories to Drudge or accepting full donations from Rupert Murdoch, so who are we
kidding here?

Tell you what, when you start scolding Billarybots for their much nastier names for Obama, then I'll
give you some credit. But I won't hold my breath. :eyes:

[MonkeyFunk]

44. Well

if you want to continue childish, right-wing name-calling, that's your perogative. But don't expect to have an adult conversation when you do so.

[DemFemme]

49. Like I said, I won't be holding my breath.

:nopity:

[MonkeyFunk]

52. It just doesn't make any sense to me

why someone would come to a political discussion board with the express purpose of avoiding substantive political discussion.

[Name removed]

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[MonkeyFunk]

56. I don't know what an SBV thread is...

and I'm not responsible for what other people post.

I dont use childish names for our candidates. If you think it enhances your argument, there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise. Rock on with your bad self.

[Nedsdag]

46. Don't get your panties all in a bunch.

I always thought it was a term of endearment like Bennifer or Brangelina.

My, you Hillbots are touchy.

[DemFemme]

50. Aren't they now?

:toast:

[Inspired]

26. God, we HATED those orange hats in Iowa.

We are not amused with loads of young obnoxious kids, from out of state, telling us who to vote for. Like they would ever attend a caucus even if they did live in Iowa. Hardly.

[DemFemme]

33. LOL! I'll bet.

Just wait until Billary's paid young DC politicos/minions come a-knocking on your doors. :hide:

Billary has only put up her job applications in the Washington, D.C. and NoVa (northern Virginia) area. I've
seen one and it's very basic, minimum wage level stuff. It begs the question: why can't she get Iowans to
help her out for no pay, like Obama and Edwards? Why is she advertising in Washington, D.C., where
political ambitions tend to hitch themselves to the highest bidder? You can't buy grassroots activists'
passion, I suppose.

[rodeodance]

6. why does everything have to be an either or?

[Stop Cornyn]

7. ABSOLUTELY! Hillary runs a smart enough campaign to know that she could place 3rd in Iowa, which

would seriously jeopardize her standing in New Hampshire, and if she comes in third in Iowa and hen doesn't win New Hampshire, South Carolina is not the state where she is likely to turn it around.

If Hillary goes through Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina without a win, she'll probably tank on Super-duper Tuesday and the myth of inevitably is put on the shelf with Dean's and Bradley's unsuccessful primary campaigns in 2000 and 2004.

[cobalt1999]

8. No, I think she smells blood in the water and is going for the kill.

An Iowa win would go a long way towards locking up the primary for her.

[IndianaGreen]

9. The only blood I smell is that of the soldiers that will die during Hillary's Presidency

She has said that there will be combat troops still in Iraq at the end of her first term. Four more years of war!

And if Bush comes through his bombing of Iran next year, what mess will we have?

[cobalt1999]

10. umm, what does your personal speculation on Hillary's continuation of the war

have to do with her rising in the Iowa polls and sending in staffers to try and take out her competitors quickly?

[IndianaGreen]

14. Barbara Boxer said that elections have consequences

Putting Hillary in the White House will have 4 more years of war as a consequence.

Iowans need to think carefully as to the consequences of their caucus.

[cobalt1999]

18. Okay....I still don't understand how your speculation on Hilliary and Iraq

Which I personally don't buy has anything to do with the topic of her rising poll numbers in Iowa and her sending in staff in order to win quickly.

Obviously, most people aren't making the same Hillary = More War connection you are making. I know I don't. What I do see is a person smart enough to realize that it is a complicated mess and there is no "soundbite easy answer" or published "timeline" to getting out. However, and this is an important point, that does not mean more and more of the same, nor does it mean war with Iran. You are just stating your own personal conclusion, that obviously isn't widely accepted.

Regardless, how does that have anything to do with her trying to wrap up the nomination quickly?

[gaiilonfong]

19. aaaaah and campaigning for LIEberman was????

without consequenses...BOXER is a hypocrite.

[CoffeeCat]

35. Believe me, this Iowan understands...

I take the caucuses very seriously. I understand very well that Hillary
has gone to the dark side. I don't care how the paid-blogger-marketeers
spin it.

She made Saddam/Al Qaida connections in her Senate-floor speech in the
run-up to the Iraq war. She also spoke of the same mushroom clouds that
Condi touted. Hillary knew DAMN WELL that the Iraq war was a lie steamrolled
by the neocons--the same group of thugs who ASKED HER HUSBAND TO GO TO WAR WITH
IRAQ! Hillary knew, better than anyone--that 9/11 and Saddams' WMD were
bogus.

...and STILL she refuses to denounce her vote. And now she echoes Bush's
talking points on Iran, declaring that "War with Iran is not off the table".
If that's not enough, she recently voted in favor of declaring Iran's military
a "terrorist organization". In effect, that allows Bush to do whatever the hell he
wants to Iran and its people. He no longer needs to ask Congressional approval for
war, because of their "terrorist" status.

Does Hillary think that we're not paying attention?

This Iowan is.

Hillary is panicking, because the Iowa caucuses cannot be STOLEN. They are
won by having loyal, fierce, passionate supporters who are willing to go to the
mat for their candidate.

At the Iowa caucuses, registered voters meet in school libraries, community
centers, living rooms and gymnasiums. We divide into candidate groups and
we argue, defend, and beg. We try to pull people over to our candidate and
we do it with tons of emotion and loads of truth and information.

Guess what? I think Hillary's scared. Her support is based on two things: Her
name recognition and the perception that she's leading in the polls. That's
soft support. It's not going to generate a ton of people "going to the mat" for
her.

However, the Edwards and Obama supporters will speak passionately. They'll lobby
for their candidate, because their support is based on MORE than how well their
candidate is doing in the polls--or what they believe the Jonses are doing.

Just look at the pro-Mrs-Clinton posts at DU. It's never about her views or
the wonderful way in which she's saving our democracy or our Constitution. It's
always, "Yippeee! She's leading in another poll!"

Furthermore, does anyone actually believe that the Kucinich, Richardson, Biden,
Dodd and Gravel supporters would actually go to Hillary??? In the Iowa caucuses
you must have 7 supporters per candidate to be "viable" (7 supporting voters = 1 vote). If
your candidate is not viable, you have a choice. You can stand alone and your
vote does not count, or you can join another candidate group and count. I've
seen this process in action and 99 percent join another group. The Biden/Dodd/Gravel/etc
supporters, who are overwhelmingly progressive, will probably go to Obama and Edwards.

Hillary isn't spending money and scrambling for a widened Iowa presence because she's
"secure". She's going it because she knows that the Iowa caucuses are about democracy
in action and people who are passionate for their candidates.

The most passionate Hillary supporter that I've heard to date--is none other than
Newt Gingrich as he espoused deep admiration and adoration for her on "Meet The Press".

[IndianaGreen]

42. Thank you for your insight into the Iowa caucus process

I hope that Iowans come through for the rest of us.

[gorekerrydreamticket]

45. Very interesting post, thanks.....n/m

[Nedsdag]

48. Bravo!

:applause:

[DemFemme]

51. Thank you for speaking truth to power. I surmised much the same...

but it's so good to hear it confirmed by an Iowa caucus goer. You can't buy an Iowan's vote. That's
why Hillary had to go all the way to Washington, DC to find people willing to work for her -- for a price.

[Nostradammit]

54. Right Frickin' On

You made some excellent points and gave me some hope.

Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou.

[Tejanocrat]

12. Amen! There is nothing "speculative" about extreme (for a Democrat) Hillary's war-hawkishness

[DrFunkenstein]

22. I'm Not a Clinton Hater - I Just Think She Is Militaristic For Political Reasons

She has proven repeatedly that she is willing to use American lives as props in her political theater to make her look "tough" and "credible."

In the 90's, I used to look forward to her future run, but I have been so thoroughly disappointed since that time. Actually, I don't think "disappointed" really seems like the right word when thousands and thousands of lives have been sacrificed needlessly.

[alteredstate]

31. If I could recommend your post, I would.

[surfermaw]

11. She knows Edwards will Blitz the air ways in the last days

He has held back spending money on Media Blitzes, and will Blitz the last or lasts days before the Iowa C. remember they had him at 5% in Iowa , and he came in just 2% points behind John KErry, with out Clark's jump into the campaign at the same time Edwards went in , he would have won not only S.C. but Iowa and Oklahoma, he only missed Oklahoma by a couple of votes to Clark,

[Inspired]

27. The ads will be starting soon. The first one is awesome. n/t

[itsrobert]

13. Yup, DESPERATION is settling in.

I'm sure her internal polling shows she is in trouble and that why her handler is trying for damage control. If she finishes third in Iowa, she's toast.

[Vincardog]

15. From your lips to God's ears.

[DemFemme]

34. That's my conclusion, too.

Why else would she put up a public want ad in Washington, D.C. and Virginia all of a sudden?

Why not ask Iowans for help? Hmmm....

[surfermaw]

16. Could this be the reason she is sending in to Iowa

Edwards Calls on Iowans to Pledge to Not Caucus for Anyone Who Takes Lobbyist Money
At a campaign stop at the Iowa Veterans Home in Marshalltown on Saturday afternoon, John Edwards drew strong distinctions between him and Hillary Clinton by calling on Iowans to pledge to not caucus for anyone who takes money from lobbyists.

Edwards said trading corporate Republicans for corporate Democrats won't fix the situation in Washington. Edwards announced that he has never taken money from Washington lobbyists, which drew loud applause from the crowd of over 200. Edwards told the audience that they can do something about this by pledging to not caucus for anyone who takes money from lobbyists. Edwards used a Rural American Forum that Hillary Clinton recently held at Monsanto's Lobbying Headquarters in Washington DC as an example of what is wrong...


I'm not sure where they got the people from, but if I want to talk to rural Americans I come to Iowa.


Earlier in the day, Sen. Edwards campaigned in his 99th county this year, making him the first candidate to campaign in every county in the state this election cycle.

The overriding theme of Edwards stop was that our nation is better than this. He began his speech talking about the recent documentary about World War II by Ken Burns and cited the incredible accomplishments and sacrifices Americans made. He said Americans today have responded in amazing ways to Katrina and to 9/11. However, little progress has been made with over half the schools in New Orleans still closed and a hole in the ground still at ground zero. Edwards cited two factors for this. First, corruption in Government that is demonstrated by no bid contracts. The second reason is trade policies that favor corporations over worker's rights and environmental standards.

Edwards took a half dozen questions from the audience. The first question was about health care. Edwards outlined the basics of his health care plan and then started talking about the need to care for our Veterans, which drew very loud applause from the crowd at the Iowa Veterans Home. Edwards said we need to have guaranteed funding for the Veterans Administration. Another line concerning health care from Edwards that garnered loud applause was when he said he would tell Congress, members of his administration, including the Cabinet, that if they don't pass a health care bill, so every American would be covered, by July of 2009 then he will use his power as President and take their health care coverage away.

An interesting question came from a man who is the son of a UAW worker about a quote from Sen. Edwards book, Home, about the dignity of hard worker Sen. Edwards learned working in the mill in the summers when he was growing up. Sen. Edwards responded by saying...


Today we glorify those who make millions and those aren't the ones who have made American great, it is those who work hard everyday that have made American great. It is time to show respect and dignity to those that work for a living.


Edwards closed by saying all the candidates have their policy statements, but what really matters is who the voters can trust. He said President Bush has squandered the trust of the American people and the world and it is vital that our next President can be trusted.
It's time to stand up - not to cheer, but to fight back. - Russ Feingold http://commoniowan.blogspot.com

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=====This was taken from a post just below your post on D.U.

[DemFemme]

37. It makes me proud to be a Democrat that Edwards and Obama are not taking lobbyist money.

That means all that money is pouring into Billary's coffers.

"Lobbyists are people, too." ~ Hillary Clinton

[William769]

60. Love your profile!

[MrSlayer]

20. I agree. She certainly isn't running away with it there.

I've been predicting that Edwards would win Iowa for months now.

[Lucinda]

24. It's nothing more than smart strategy.

If I were running, I would have planned to do exactly what she is doing now... I hope all the candidates are smart enough to do so.

[sampsonblk]

43. Yeah she's desperate. Huge leads in the polls always do that-nt

[mark414]

47. Hillary doesn't have a huge lead in Iowa

she's only up by about 5 points and that's been steady since august

[DemFemme]

53. Iowans aren't stupid. They deserve to be first in the nation. n/t

[William769]

59. posted wrong place.