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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:41 PM Original message |
Obama's senate record is 100%, completely and utterly similar to Hillary's on the issue of Iraq |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. Same could be said of many issues |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Yep. |
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superkia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
48. Throw another Dem. candidate like Kucinich in there, how does he stand with them? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. Forget discussing...I'm just going to watch. |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. You better share that popcorn n/t |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
4. Their Senate voting records are entirely identical, but for one vote, IIRC. n/t |
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VLC (487 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
5. What does 100% similar mean? |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. congruent? |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. Hillary gave George W. Bush authorization to wage war in Iraq |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Can you document that? |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Sure...neither did IWR co-sponsor Edwards, for that matter |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. So I guess after Hillary's vote to start the war in the first place.... |
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cd3dem (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
43. to say Obama did not vote for the war is silly... |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Uffda! |
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cd3dem (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. If I had gone to the dance, I would have asked the fat girl to dance... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
9. Accept Obama was against the war before he was for it. |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. E.X.C.E.P.T!!!!!! |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
54. he's for the war? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
55. Only he's not for it. |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
10. Hillarybots love to copy Hillary's blurring and fudging. |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. What is Hillary's record on katrina. Nothing Like Obama's as evidenced in this link |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
11. Yes. |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
15. Nope She was vocal pushing for the war. Her vote for the war is the total opposite. |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
53. Except that Obama was not a Senator at the time... |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
18. Didn't Hillary simply take the comments from assistants to vote for or against Iraq war? |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
19. except that she fucking voted to start the war!!!! |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Read the OP again...nt |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I did |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. It's not a bullshit argument...it's the truth...nt |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. um no its not |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Um no she didn't... |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I just did |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. So their Senate Records are identical...correct?...nt |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. no, |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:20 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Spin city... |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:44 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. LOL - you are the one f***ing spinning like a top |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #31 |
51. NOthing to apologize for? HUH? Then neither does Bush.... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
21. Except he opposed the invasion of Iraq and she voted 'yes' -- |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. yes how dare that obama want to make sure our troops have the proper |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. it's funny how they try to take people down the rabbit hole |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
33. Votes do not tell the entire story |
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cd3dem (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. well stated |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
60. Hillary ALSO voted NO on the Levin Amendment the same day as the IWR!!!!! |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
34. except what? You don't ACCEPT the truth of my post or are you a spelling nazi? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:20 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Yo wyldwolf. I think you replied to the wrong poster. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:30 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. you're right about the first, wrong about the second. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
37. This is from January 2007 |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Only 2 votes differed b/t Obama & Clinton in that list. |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
40. Bottom Line to it all Hillary voted for the war and over 3000 valuable lives have been lost |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. And we honestly have no idea how Obama would have voted. |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. He is saying the samething he has been always saying. It was the wrong war. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. For a second time, |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. You and I will just have to agree to disagree. IT is my belief he would have voted the same way |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:09 PM Original message |
Obama himself has admitted he doesn't know how he would have voted |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Obama himself has admitted he doesn't know how he would have voted |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
45. "100% similar" is an oxymoron, and the sentiment is bullshit. |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
47. All except way back when |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
56. We can't change history but we can plan for the future.. |
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Prince Paul (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
57. What's there to dicuss ? |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I hate hearing someone trying to smear a candidate to try to get their candidate more interest |
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Prince Paul (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. It's not smearing |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
61. The problem is not what her votes were, it's how she made them |
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