well, the 3 creeps are in Canada today, signing away america

[donsu]

signing papers making the 3 countries one re: trade, money, laws to protect and prosper neo cons, etc., etc.

I feel sick just thinking about it.

[BlackHawk706867]

1. I really fail to see how they will get away with this... First of all..

Harper does not even have a majority Gov't. in Canada.... This in my mind is all going to back fire on them once the Canadian people get wind of what is going on....

For those that are wondering what this is all about, please look at the attached URL.

http://www.canadians.org/index.html

ww

[acmavm]

2. Where the hell are out elected reps during all this??????????

<snip>

From August 20-21, Stephen Harper will welcome his American idol George W. Bush and Mexico’s President Felipe Calderon to Montebello, Quebec.

What will be on the agenda? We can only guess at this point, because all of the meetings to review the progress of the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) have taken place in secret so far.

But the Council of Canadians is determined to break the silence and ensure that citizens’ voices are heard.

The SPP – which is being implemented without any public or parliamentary scrutiny – is about eliminating Canada’s ability to set its own independent regulatory standards, environmental protection measures, energy security, foreign, military, immigration and a frighteningly wide range of other policies.

The decisions that Harper, Bush and Calderon make from Aug. 20-21 will affect the food we eat, the air we breathe, and the human rights and civil liberties we enjoy.

[BlackHawk706867]

3. Well the sad reality is that Paul Martin was the one that started all of this...

When he was invited to Bush's ranch several years ago this was discussed and Martin went along with it.

ww

[donsu]

4. they have gotten away with everything else, what makes this any different?

show me where we have stopped them from doing anything they want.

[truedelphi]

14. Actually the near riotous conditions

That occurred during the Seattle WTO meetings in the 1990's prevented many of the meetings that would have placed Europe under the thumb of planned WTO decisions.

The protesters there freed the European part of the globe.

they may have been knocked black and blue but they did keep Europe free.

[BlackHawk706867]

5. Well first of all I don't believe that Harper has the legal right to sign away..

Canadian rights, anymore than Bush has that right... We will see I guess...

ww

[donsu]

6. believe it - they have/can/will do this

nt

[alfredo]

7. Will this amount to a treaty? If it does, it needs to be ratified.

[donsu]

9. NO - they are taking the 'just doing business' route so they won't

have to go to congress

[alfredo]

11. That's right, congress is irrelevant.

[rjones2818]

8. Another reason to support Dennis!

He'll opt out of NAFTA and the WTO in the first week of his administration by sending withdrawl notices to Canada and Mexico!

Go Dennis!
http://dennis4president.com
Choose Peace!

:kick:

[knight_of_the_star]

10. I thought Bush couldn't shove that through

Didn't Congress at least a month ago refuse to reauthorize his fast-track authority and now treaties and whatnot have to go through the Senate like they are supposed to?

[formercia]

13. Legislation coming out of Congress is just advisory now.

Lord pissypants can do whatever he pleases.

[Stinky The Clown]

12. I favor this. I assume we now get ........

..... Canadian health care and Canadian marriage rights.

We get that? Right?

We don't???

Never mind.

(This post was entirely sarcasm, in case it had to be said.)

[LibertyorDeath]

15. Word is getting out

BlackHawk706867 Donating Member (573 posts) Mon Aug-20-07 12:04 PM
Original message
Regarding SPP secret meetings.... Following is an interview on CTV...

with Maude Barlow, The Council of Canadians... An interesting listen...

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/HTMLTemplate?tf=/ctv/mar/vide...

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3462492&mesg_id=3462492

[Robson]

16. Neocons seem to have a role here, just as they did in Europe

How much have you seen from the US MSM media on this subject? It is usually buried back on page 6. They even snicker when someone brings it up as on Washington Journal of CSPAN

Hillary will be right there cheerleading for it too as her husband gave us NAFTA. BTW has anyone ever questioned her or the other candidates about the SPP / NAU in the debates? It is more likely Wolf and his MSM compatriots let it slide with a snicker as just another frivolous tin hat conspiracy theory. I rest my case.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6456

Control of the people has become much easier with consolidated governments and consolidated media.

[Progressive Friend]

17. Note that right-wing parties rule in all three countries

And in two of them (US and Mexico) they came to power illegitimately, by rigging the elections.

[earth mom]

18. This is TREASON!!! No doubt about it!!! People need to wake the HELL up!!!

:grr:

[eridani]

19. Please add relevant info to the following thread--

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x4845