Who won this morning's debate?

[antiimperialist]

Poll question: Who won this morning's debate?

Who won today's debate?

[ms liberty]

1. You left out Biden.n/t

[Jim Sagle]

2. That happens a lot.

[antiimperialist]

3. I wonder how many of the voters watched the debate

hmmmm.

[loves_dulcinea]

4. you also left out

the bug on dodd's head.

[goodgd_yall]

17. You must have a big screen TV, or were you watching on the internet?

I didn't see it.

[Colobo]

5. Obama, without question.

[PDittie]

6. ABC News poll:

http://abcnews.go.com

Who do you think won the Democratic debate?

Barack Obama
1,801
Hillary Clinton
1,377
Joe Biden
901
John Edwards
745
Dennis Kucinich
576
Nobody won. I'm voting Republican.
224
Bill Richardson
179
Mike Gravel
160
Nobody won. I'm waiting for Al Gore to get in the race.
139
Chris Dodd
70
Total Vote: 6,172

[goodgd_yall]

15. Joe Biden?

Well maybe he did better than I think, but I have to admit I've written him off because of his gaffes in the AFL-CIO forum.

[Jillian]

25. Biden had a huge moment today -

He got Hillary and Obama to publicly agree with his plan for Iraq.

[Inuca]

26. Hillary?

I did not catch that, I could not watch non-stop. I thought you were going to refer to his ad being aired for free on national TV, not bad when you do not swim in $ :-).

[maximusveritas]

19. Looks like Obama was the winner, with Biden and Kucinich overperforming

and Richardson and Dodd underperforming. That's about how I saw it as well.

[goodgd_yall]

24. Geesh, I couldn't disagree more.

Except for agreeing that Obama did well, although I wouldn't say he was the outright winner. Interesting how differently people see things. Some of it, I'm sure comes from bias toward and against a candidate.

[sampsonblk]

46. Obama wins the debate, Clinton gets a bump in the polls

Happens every week.

[jaxx]

7. I watched the debate and Obama was good.

Put in the uncomfortable position of having his ability to be prez tossed about like confetti, he responded with humor and strength.

[Colobo]

8. He kicked ass. Simply that.

[jenmito]

9. I DVRed it and will watch it soon, but I've seen THs and focus groups say Obama clearly won...

The voters' comments were that Obama's answers sounded sincere and straight-forward while Hillary's sounded scripted. I can't wait to watch it.

[goodgd_yall]

16. I think those comments are biased.

Hillary sounded strong and confident, Obama also did. I actually thought they did equally well and I'm not invested in any candidate at the moment although I like Kucinich pretty much. I don't think "my guy" did well. Not enough input from him. I thought there were times he could have jumped in, like during the nuclear weapons debate, but he didn't. I'm not really sure what the rules were, that is, if he was "allowed" to.

[calteacherguy]

37. I didn't watch it yet, but I hope Obama doesn't lose that quality. nt

[jenmito]

38. I just watched it. He didn't.

:)

[JTFrog]

10. Debate?

Hmmm, more like a special edition of his regular show really. The only reason this guy is where he is today is because of Clinton. What's with all these biased, so-called forums? I'm not an Obama supporter, but I strongly object to the first fifteen minutes of the show which was obviously an attempt to get the rest of the candidates to attack Obama. Wonder who benefits most from that. :eyes:

[Colobo]

11. I think Obama wanted that, because he separated himself from the rest

The "I'm the candidate of change" thing seems to be working.

[goodgd_yall]

14. I think it worked out really well for Obama

I loved his "bumper car" response. In its way it deflated the "inexperience" charge.

[daninthemoon]

23. Obama obviously was waiting to use that line. Did Steph set him

up for it? Could be. At the very least he tailored the flavor of the "debate" to center on Clinton v Obama. I couldn't decide if I liked Richardson talking out of turn to get his voice in, but he, Kucinich, and of course Gravel can't get anything like equal time under this structure.

[goodgd_yall]

12. None of the above---I think it was a 3-way tie between Clinton, Edwards, and Obama

And Richardson performed his best. Seemed like he had a big cuppa joe to brighten himself up.

Very dissappointed that Kucinich did not have more questions directed at him.

Obama made some really good comebacks, e.g., bumper car joke in response to other candidates questioning his experience and there was another one I can't remember.

Edwards was the first to completely answer the prayer question, then Biden and Obama followed up with similar answers. Clinton avoided the "do you think prayer could have prevented or lessened Hurricane Katrina and Minneapolis bridge collapse" part of the question. I was hoping there would be an honest "no" to the question and Edwards was the first to say so.

[Captain Hilts]

13. They were all good. And they emphasized agreement at times. nt

[TheFarseer]

18. It certainly wasn't the American people

or Democratic voters. Instead of focusing on policies and things that matter, George Snufflupagus started out with a fun little game of "gotcha", then we played how quickly can we get out of Iraq, then we moved on to who loves God the most. There wasn't enough time to talk about education or how to prevent mortgage meltdown or energy independence. These debates that talk about 30 issues for 3 minutes each are ridiculous. We have 55,055 debates. Why can't they each be focused on a single topic or a few related topics? Then we would really see who can devise a real plan that goes along with our values and who is just alot of hot air and one-liners.

[goodgd_yall]

20. I disagree to a point

I think this one did allow more discussion on each issue and that is what I liked about this debate. But this time, the American people were short-changed, as well as Kucinich and his supporters. Just when Kucinich is on a bit of a roll, he was shut out of most of the debate. To me it just seemed so obvious what was going on. The MSM continues to control who becomes the viable candidates.

[TheFarseer]

27. Take education for instance

I've heard in every debate so far: 1) NCLB is not working 2) We need more funding and higher teacher pay. I haven't heard much more than that in any debate.

[goodgd_yall]

36. I heard universal pre school too

Well, I also become dissappointed with the lack of good follow-up questions which could allow the candidates to expand more on their positions. I think the only way we will hear more detailed responses on various issues is when the candidates speak to a focus audience, e.g., the NEA, for education, or something like that.

[Jillian]

21. Steph. really tore them down, didn't he?

By starting the debates with the poll numbers.
Making the candidates answer the questions.
Talking in depth about their weaknesses.
Putting Biden against Richardson.

Ouch.
It was a good debate, and I don't think there was a clear winner.

[goodgd_yall]

22. Kucinich got the shaft

I can't believe how he was snubbed through most of the debate, not that I'm not aware of how manipulative the MSM is. But up to now even the MSM gave him him more opportunities in forums to lay out his viewpoint and objectives.

[penguin7]

43. damn straight!

[BornagainDUer]

44. YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!! That George Stepsinshitalot about made

me fucking :puke: . Talk about snubbing DK. Shit it was so obvious. :mad:

[PDittie]

28. Dodd's Talk Clock

[Ethelk2044]

29. Obama won hands down

This was the "Attack Barack Obama Variety Show" with all the gang attempting to knock of and deflate the Iowa front runner. He was poised and did what the others did not do, inject some "common sense" into this forum while he was constantly attacked. His point of saying "all this Washington experience on this stage has gotten us into this terrible mess" shows the traits and insight that separates leaders from followers and he displayed that with vigor and experience that the others don't seems to have, the ability to look forward and not get marred down in old world think the way his competitors are forever trapped. Experience + Common Sense = Good Judgement. Go Obama!!

[jenmito]

32. I agree 100%...

I just finished watching the debate. Once again it was everyone vs. Obama. Hillary was nodding her head off when anyone other than Obama said anything. I loved his line when he said he prepared for this debate by going on the bumper cars at the fair. :D

[Dawgs]

30. Haven't you heard? Hillary wins every debate.

At least that's what some of the Hillary supporters will be claiming in a few days.

[Colobo]

31. Notice how they have stayed away today?

[antiimperialist]

33. Please give this AP post-debate story a low-rating

Instead of focusing on Obama's legitimate points against his rivals, AP paints Obama as going on the defensive. A biased headline against him.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20346455/

[hisownpetard]

54. Done. n/t

[MethuenProgressive]

34. Same poll results as "Who does DU support?"

I doubt many of the respondants even saw the debate. I'd wager they just clicked on the candidate they support.

[antiimperialist]

35. I agree

I am an Edwards supporter, yet I gave Obama the win. Some here don't know how to separate favorite candidate from the winner of a debate.

[themaguffin]

39. The opening of polls #'s & ?'s regarding Obama &Hillary benefit those two

and how much of the first opening minutes ends being a focus on those two, which enhances that it's the show starring those two with a Edawrds and then a supporting cast.

As the Dodd chart shows, it's a ridiculous concept.

And again, Biden and Dodd showed how experience plays into this, but won't get recognized.

Now others admit that Biden is right, but their supporters will not support Biden and in fact treat him like he is from the GOP and Dodd will get no respect even thought he the only that discussed our little Constitution (getting smaller by the way too).

[DutchLiberal]

40. Which debate? I haven't seen it, but I aready know who won it: Kucinich!

Of course.

[Pacifist Patriot]

41. Black mark for me. I missed that there was a debate scheduled.

[LWolf]

42. Stephanopoulos.

America lost.

What a trampling of democracy in a "democratic" debate.



When the moderator gets more talking time than 3 of the candidates, I'd hardly call that a debate.

When two of the candidates got talking time in double digits, with the rest of the pack in single digits, and a whopping 8 minutes and 17 seconds between the candidate that got the least amount of time and the candidate that got the greatest, that's not a debate.

Why pretend that such a farce is a fair, open airing of candidates' positions and differences to allow voters to compare?

That's not a "debate." It's a campaign ad. The "winners" are those that were gifted with the most time air time, regardless of what they said.

[pioneer111]

47. I like the forums better when they

take each candidate in turn and ask them questions - like the LGBT forum. Same amount of time for everyone and you can compare in the same night.

This approach just reinforces the media narrative of who is in front.

[IndianaGreen]

48. George Shitmegaphone is a shill for the Clintons

Compare his biased performance to that of Keith Olbermann.

[antiimperialist]

52. Clinton and Stephanopoulos did not talk to each other for 5 years

I don't think you are presenting evidence of
George's love for the Clintons.

Bill Clinton didn't even go to his wedding.
Here is an article from the conservative Wall Street Journal praising the hiring of Stephanopoulos as a host for ABC.
The writer says that Stephanopoulos is "a figure of loathing in Clintonite circles, not one of whose members, apparently, showed up at his wedding."

http://www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110001815

[BornagainDUer]

45. Kucinich was shitcanned by the neoliberals in this one. Fuck the whole

goddamn rotten process. A fucking debate about prayer and personal bullshit. FUCK IT!! I want to go to Venezuela.

[illinoisprogressive]

49. I seriously thought Obama and Kucinich gained the most.

[Colobo]

50. Obama performed beautifully; we all need to be proud of him.

[L84TEA]

51. no worries...

Let them squander in the artificial light for awhile... soon one will crack...and I mean CRACK! They will say something stupid... laugh and evil gigle... Their political career will fail...and DK will come out of no where and WIN the election!


Ok so I got High hopes. lol

[AtomicKitten]

53. Nobody won --

and nobody lost.

Kucinich is becoming habitually spot-on.

The top three remain static.

Dodd apologizing for voting to get rid of hapeas corpus was noteworthy.

Richardson and Biden were there.

And unfortunately Gravel is too angry to remind me of anything other than a crotchety old man yelling at the neighbor kids to get off his lawn.