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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:22 PM
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New media study of Jan election coverage: Dean Gored, Kerry/Edwards adored
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:25 PM
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1. You Forgot To Mention Clark's Assasination
how convenient.

Or the MONTHS of postivie coverage Dean got before Iowa.

These studies that keep trying to make excuses for Dean are laughable.

What is also not mentioned is the way the media did everything in its power to resurrect Dean's campaign after his outside-the-norm and inappropriate concession speech in Iowa.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:27 PM
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3. ?! How is this ?!
They tried to "resurrect" Dean - by running The Scream 49 times a day per channel and calling him mad?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:27 PM
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4. I was thinkin the same thing...
:crazy:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:52 PM
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12. The Scream Happened & Was Inappropriate Behavior
for a concession speech. It was totally outside the norm AS I STATED.

The media had pretty well kissed Dean's ass up to then.

How many DU'ers claimed Dean had TEFLON??? How soon you forget.

And yes, after the media had their way with the Scream... they did their best to resurrect him.

How was it that Dean got an interview with whoever that lady interviewer was and so much sympathetic press?


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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 04:47 PM
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20. Bullshit. Every candidate in the field has made a rally the troops speech.
It was perfectly appropriate given the audience and noise level.

What wasn't appropriate was the way the media Wellstoned Dean with their distorted hot miked excerpt.
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 05:09 PM
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29. "They did their best to resurrect him" ??
Edited on Mon Feb-16-04 05:10 PM by Anwen
Not true.

As for the Diane Sawyer interview, it was the least they could do for blowing the speech out of proportion over 700 times. Even that interview reeked with insincerity. Sawyer tried 5 times to get Dean to admit he has some sort of anger problem.

I also did not see any other "sympathetic press." As far as I know, Sawyer finally did a 3 minute segment at the end of World News on how the speech was over played. And that was the only sign of sympathy I ever heard from the press.

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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:26 PM
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2. thanks, this is really interesting, esp. the table on p. 4
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:33 PM
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5. What's REALLY telling about that graph
is how LITTLE media coverage Dennis Kucinich got AT ALL!

He's second from the bottom, after Colin Powell and ahead of John McCain. Hell, even Bill Clinton (who's not even RUNNING) got more mentions by the press.

It's one thing to get negative press, but it's quite another to be completely ignored by it.

:wtf:
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:40 PM
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6. I agree, but I also notice that
Edwards has gotten far less coverage than have the other leaders (Dean, Kerry, Clark) and that the majority of everyone's coverage including his has been neutral rather than positive or negative.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 04:57 PM
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25. Who other than Kerry got better media coverage than Edwards?
Nobody.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 05:05 PM
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27. Also look at the graph (p20) about kinds of coverage --
The measure campaign, personality and policy discussion. Dean got a ton of good and neutral personality and campaigning coverage, and got policy coverage and political discussion coverage. The top two topics are Dean personality and campaign coverage (of which negative stories were a tiny percentage).

Edwards got very low campaigning coverage and if he got perosnality and policy coverage, it was too low to mention.

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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 04:52 PM
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23. Agreed
The Kucinich campaign did a lousy job getting coverage for their man. I wonder if that will change now that Will Pitt is Press Secretary.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:45 PM
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7. It shows Dean got proportionally more positive coverage than Bush
Edited on Mon Feb-16-04 03:45 PM by NewYorkerfromMass
and more positive press than anyone but Kerry. It does show he got 4 to 5 times the negative press of Kerry. But keep in mind that the media didn't make things up out of whole cloth. There were certain givens they had to work with. It wasn't fiction.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:49 PM
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9. Really? What did Dean do in the week before the Iowa primary to
deserve the sharp rise in negative reporting he endured?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:52 PM
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13. Iowa caucus statement from TV tapes is one
I am sure there are others.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 04:44 PM
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19. So you agree that he did nothing to deserve the sharp rise in negative
coverage other than to tell the truth about the caucus system four years earlier?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 05:15 PM
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30. We don't even know how that was presented in the "media" here
we're jumping to conclusions. Some people might see calling the caucus dominated by special interests a positive. :shrug:
I think it is naive to pretend that Dean was a positive if not blank slate for voters to digest and form their own opinions on.
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BruinAlum Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:54 PM
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14. He got into a pissing match with Gephardt that he started
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:56 PM
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17. that was dumb too. Dean was very good at being shortsighted
He lost sight of the bigger picture there.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 04:48 PM
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21. DEAN started it? Sorry, but I remember Gephardt call Dean Gingrich
and telling everybody that Dean would take away their Medicare.
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:47 PM
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8. Wow, It's really unfair
Look at the graph on page 19.

CMB got one mention on policy issues. What, were they were going to just let her skate to the nomination, no questions asked?

But keep it up. I think the voters are really sympathetic to wealthy white men who saturate the airwaves with complaints about the media stealing their democracy.
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:51 PM
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10. apparently
the voters are more sympathetic to the wealthy white men who take money from the corporate media, thereby ensuring their rule of the airwaves.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:51 PM
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11. Americans are STRONGLY against media consolidation. So is Dean.
Kerry & Edwards think media consolidation is just fine.

Put 2 & 2 together.
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:59 PM
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18. I'm just saying....
www.npr.org/rundowns/rundown.php?prgDate=14-Feb-2004&prgId=7

scroll down to Wisconsin Voters Weigh Political Ads.



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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 05:06 PM
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28. do you have a link re: JE? Here's one that says the exact opposite.
Edited on Mon Feb-16-04 05:06 PM by spooky3
In a speech to North Carolina broadcasters, in July 2003, Edwards said:

"Let me say this as bluntly as I can: I believe that Michael Powell and the FCC have betrayed the public's trust. He and his FCC must be stopped.

The good news is that we have a chance to do that. Together with many of my colleagues in both parties, I've cosponsored legislation to undo the FCC's action and reestablish the 35 percent cap. And I support measures to use the Congressional Review Act, a rarely applied procedure, to turn back the FCC's action. The issue is uniting Republicans and Democrats, liberals and conservatives. We have a chance to win. I welcome your thoughts about how to do it."

http://edwards.senate.gov/speeches/2003/Broadcasters_0715.html
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:55 PM
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15. ...and Kucinich ignored
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 04:49 PM
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22. Yes. Completely. (nt)
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demolition angel Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 03:56 PM
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16. 1/1/03 to 12/09/03 results
Here are selections the complete 03 version (or at least until 12/9/03):





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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 04:55 PM
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24. Yep. They really set Dean up for the big fall.
That way, no matter how well he does, the BIG (media coverage induced) STORY is how poorly he's doing compared to when the media kept telling us that he was riding high.

There's nothing attractive about an insurgent who makes the mistake of running a front-runner's campaign. Dean fell into that trap of his own accord, but the media certainly set it.
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 04:59 PM
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26. Makes sense to me
Dean got Gored big time right before Iowa. However, that wasn't the only factor in his self-destruction. His "suicide pact" with Gephardt, where they attacked each other over and over, and led to the rise of Kerry and Edwards. CLark was also gettin shafted by the media, especially by the way they treated him and Michael Moore over AWOL.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-04 05:15 PM
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31. Raise your hands if this surprises you.
*looks around* :eyes:
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