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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:09 PM
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Wonder what Bush is going to say about Iraq in September?
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General’s Iraq Progress Report Has Competition

By DAVID E. SANGER and THOM SHANKER
Published: June 24, 2007

WASHINGTON, June 23 — Last month, Congress set a deadline for the American commander in Iraq, declaring that by Sept. 15 he would have to assess progress there before billions more dollars are approved to finance the military effort to stabilize the country. The commander, Gen. David H. Petraeus, said in recent days that his report would be only a snapshot of trends, strongly suggesting he will be asking for more time.

But even before he composes the first sentences of the report, to be written with the new American ambassador in Baghdad, Ryan C. Crocker, the administration is commissioning other assessments that could dilute its findings about the impact of the current troop increase. The intent appears to be to give President Bush, who publicly puts great emphasis on listening to his field commanders, a wide range of options.

The assessments are likely to conclude that the Iraqi government has failed to use the troop increase for the purpose the president intended, to strike the political accommodations that he said would stabilize the country. That and other views expected in the various reports could also provide some rationale for beginning a reduction of troops in Iraq under conditions far short of the “victory” Mr. Bush, for the past four years, has said was his ultimate goal. He has used that word with far less frequency recently.

American intelligence agencies, according to senior administration and intelligence officials, are already preparing to submit their own assessment of Iraq’s progress. That is expected to include a judgment about whether Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki is willing or capable of striking the kind of Shiite-Sunni political balance Mr. Bush said was the ultimate objective of the American strategy, and whether the passage of political compromises, none of which have yet cleared Parliament, have any hope of reducing the violence. That report will begin circulating, officials said, around the time that General Petraeus and Mr. Crocker arrive in Washington to testify about what the troop increase has accomplished.

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It is difficult to predict how the assessments will play out in the next three months. Congressional Democrats, who wrote the Sept. 15 deadline into war-financing legislation, envisioned General Petraeus’s report as the moment they would have enough solid information to decide whether to continue financing for the so-called surge. They say that it could provide the opportunity to peel away enough nervous Republicans to create a veto-proof majority in favor of a withdrawal. An earlier report, due next month, is expected to be less significant.

But with the proliferation of assessments, there may also be a proliferation of contradictory views. That is exactly what the White House sought to create last December, when it ordered other studies to offset the findings of the Iraq Study Group, led by former Secretary of State James A. Baker III and former Representative Lee H. Hamilton. Mr. Bush rejected much of the group’s advice — until recently, when he declared that it was his intention to get back to the group’s plan. He did not say which parts, but the plan includes a call, filled with caveats, for gradual withdrawal of all combat brigades by the end of March 2008.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:15 PM
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1. Wonder what Bush is going to say come September?
Hmmm?
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:34 PM
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2. It's the Democrats' fault!
They want us to lose this war!

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 10:38 PM
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3. Makin' progress, what else?
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nodular Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 08:22 PM
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12. OK, Michigan Vote, that would be following the "script."
So far however, the search is such an obvious disaster. Unless things turn around in some way before September which seems extremely unlikely to me, I think Bush will have to make some kind of admission that things are not going well.

One of the more obvious problems for image makers is that the Iraqi government is simply unable to pass any significant legislation whatsoever. This is very difficult to spin.

Another difficult thing to sell is the fact that US progress in even pass a fine Baghdad has been slower than expected. We only have 40% of Baghdad under control at this point which is sort of unbelievable.

In addition, Bush has recently made noises about going along with Iraq study group proposals, including rapprochement with Iran (while simultaneously sending a third US carrier group to the area of Iran's coast). In addition, Bush has talked about the idea of reducing troop levels in the spring of 08.

At the risk of dating myself and losing the room here, I think Bush may go for the "rope a dope" strategy. That was when Mohammad Ali leaned on the ropes for the better part of one of his fights. I think Bush may slowly give ground on Iraq. however his main objective is to make sure that we still have US forces in Iraq in January, 2009. That way, when the war is "lost," will be "someone else's fault."
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 08:51 PM
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13. * has never acknowledged a failure his entire life. And he has had plenty of opportunity.
It should be an ugly election in 2008 but it probably won't be. The Dem's won't dish out what they can't take.
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nodular Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 10:13 AM
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14. I have a feeling the Dems may surprise you this time.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 05:02 PM
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15. Shucks nod, I'm positively not holding my breath. But I'll keep watching and listening.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 12:19 AM
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4. Freedom's on the march?
:puke:
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 12:21 AM
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5. Reports are that a lot of the GOP will turn against IWR if bad news comes out. But
I wouldn't bet your horses on it yet.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 12:24 AM
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6. The troops will be home by Christmas...2012.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 12:34 AM
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7. "We need to stay in Iraq to find Osama"
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 12:34 AM
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8. We need more time (and money) for the surrrrrrrge. n/t
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 12:38 AM
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9. I'll bet Rove is working on the next 'catch phrase' as we speak...

.......



Because "Freedom's on the March", "Stay the Course", "We're mak'n progress" (etc.) have been overplayed by the Republican Talking Points...

- - - -

"Stay tuned and see what I come up with next!"




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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 12:50 AM
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10. I know what Bush is going to say, what I want to know is how are the Democrats going to respond. nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 07:30 PM
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11. Kick! n/t
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