Oh wow. DailyKos is NOW having 2004 election discussions we had years ago.

[kansasblue]

Smoking Gun: The Final 2004 National Exit Poll

The Final National Exit Poll (NEP) is the
smoking gun of 2004 election fraud.

The 2004 NEP had Kerry winning by a steady 51-48% from the 4pm (8649 respondents) to 12:22am (13047 respondents) timeline. But Bush won the 2pm Final NEP (13660 respondents) by 51-48%. In the Final, impossible weights and implausible vote shares were required to force a match to the recorded vote count.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/5/26/214251/354

[illinoisprogressive]

1. quit focusing on the past, diary writer, and look to the future. Right, kansasblue?

[MissWaverly]

if we don't solve this, the past is the future

we have a government that continues to effect policy in direct opposition to the wishes of the American people. From Iraq to
health care, from politicization of the civil service, to destroying the environment, from food poisoning to marketing of
dangerous drugs, it's all been the track record of a government that has liberated itself from it's base.

[blm]

16. That's what McAuliffe said after 2000 and 2002 thefts. It was his excuse to not do his job

and make sure that 2004, too, was not secured for Dem voters and candidates.

[bleever]

2. It still hurts my head, after all this time,

to read dKos, the way it's laid out.

But: the more people who hear about (and argue about) this, the better. That means waves and waves of newbies, beginners, and what sound to a hard-timer like stupid questions.

I say: be glad they're asking!

[Awsi Dooger]

3. I agree, and that's why I seldom post there

Too cluttered and unappealing, and too many posters. Seriously, what's the point of being comment number 498?

This place has grown above 100,000 users but the threads are still manageable, and the layout far more logical.

[Adelante]

4. And readable

I don't know of any discussion site easier on my eyes than DU.

[annabanana]

5. Better late than never... That blog gets eyes that our

own dear DU does not.. They also get coverage that we don't. It's fair to assume that there will be some people that find out for the very first time what happened in '04.

Every single person who understands how we were cheated is a potential warrior to fight against its happening again.

[KoKo]

6. Do I remember correctly that Kos put "election fraud" discussions in the same

category as "9/11" speculation. IOWD's he discouraged it? DU was first to jump on the Stolen Election 2000. From what I remember that's why most of us joined DU in the first year was because we wanted that Stolen election to be exposed. Early DU'ers worked with Bev Harris then later Andy Stevenson to get it all out. People still work on it even though they've branched out from DU and gone to other sites that focused solely on election fraud.

What I remember was that Dem Mainstream and Kos didn't want to touch it. :shrug:

[MissWaverly]

8. Andy Stephenson 10/14/61-7/7/05 gone but not forgotten

Andy, who spoke up loud and clear for voter verified paper ballots, sorely missed by DU, he was a champion for the right of
all to vote. By the way, I showed Andy my data from Maryland for the 2004 election that I had collected when he stayed with
me and he said that it was definitely a rigged vote.

Miss Waverly

[blm]

9. Read McAuliffe's book - all of our post 2002 efforts contacting DNC

about the machines and rampant election fraud, and he wouldn't lift a finger because he had no intention of securing the 2004 election.

[blm]

7. Unfortunately, Kos treated election fraud the way Terry McAuliffe did - ignored it

and pretended it was all just conspiracy theory.

[chimpymustgo]

10. Slowly but surely, the scales are falling off MANY eyes.

There was a time when here on DU, election theft was verboten, as well. Many non-believers shouted down those who knew THAT VERY NIGHT what had gone down.

[elizm]

11. DU cannot claim the high road on this....

Just this past fall I posted in this forum merely expressing my fears of the possibility that the 2006 election might be stolen and the attacks by many were RELENTLESS! You weren't even aloud to express CONCERN without being attacked.

[MissWaverly]

12. DU is swept by trolls prior to every major election

the attacks were vicious and the sad thing is some of them have been here for years and have a large number of posts, but they
are still trolls.

[chimpymustgo]

13. Let's just say there were many non-believers who've now seen the light.

Perhaps one day we'll expose all the lies. And the liars will be held to account.

[MissWaverly]

14. yes, and I hope Andy would be remembered for his role

Andy, who worked ceaselessly on the phones to anybody who had a question on how to get involved with the voting process.
May we remember those who believed that America was good and well worth saving and who sacrificed themselves to make this
country a better place.

Rest in Peace
Andy

Voter Verified Paper Ballots, may we one day see your dream realized.

[blm]

15. There was a concerted effort to label the problem specific to just Kerry-Edwards and

that started within minutes - the same crowd who refused for FOUR years to secure the election process HAD to deep-six election fraud talk in the party and point at Kerry-Edwards because the fraud that occurred was supposed to have been countered by THEM, the DNC and their Voting Rights experts - as they promised they would after the 2000 theft.

Instead, it was worse in 2002 and even worse in 2004.