I am going with John Edwards For President! Who else?

[babsbunny]

Dear Friend,

Like you, we're all very troubled that Congress is backing down to the president and getting ready to give him another blank check to keep the war going.

How could this happen?

Unfortunately, it's simple. The president and his allies—the whole right-wing buzz machine—are doing what they do every time someone opposes them. They attack their patriotism, call them weak, castigate them for not supporting the troops and don't let up until they get their way. That's the whole point of the political doctrine they call the "global war on terror"—it's a sledgehammer they use to crush opposition by twisting the meaning of patriotism, and it's given us the worst abuses and biggest mistakes of the Bush Administration, from Guantanamo to the war in Iraq.

The only way to beat them is to stand our ground and not give an inch. That's what John Edwards did today.

Today, he went to the heart of America's foreign policy establishment and called out the Bush crowd for their misuse of patriotism. He had the guts to say what all of us know—that the Bush Terror Doctrine has failed our troops and failed America by straining our military to the breaking point and sowing chaos around the world.

John Edwards offered a clear plan to rebuild our forces and cure the damage inflicted on our military by Bush's policies. He offered a vision of an America where moral leadership is once again the rule, and where we are stronger and more secure because of it.

So guess what happened?

The sledgehammer of the global war on terror came right out again—this time aimed squarely at John Edwards. Today, the national Republican party launched a vicious attack at John for asking Americans to speak out to support the troops and end the war.

They actually accused him of profiteering from the war because he's asked for your support and even had the nerve to ask you to pay the cost of a tee shirt. Of course, if the RNC really wants to attack someone for profiteering, they should call Dick Cheney's friends at Halliburton and ask them to return the billions of dollars they've made on a war that Dick Cheney promoted from day one.

Enough is enough. We need to reclaim patriotism from this crowd that has abused it over and over again.

We have a right to speak out. We have a right to stand up for our beliefs. And we have a responsibility to support the campaign that is leading the way and working to end this war.

So join us. Visit the website. Make your voice heard. Contribute to the campaign—whatever you can do. I just donated $100—even $10 will help. But make no mistake—the only thing more powerful than their sledgehammer is your voice, so we need your help right now.

http://johnedwards.com/r/14823/250587/

Tell the White House, tell the country, tell the world—John Edwards, you, all of us—we are patriots, and we will not be silenced by their terror rhetoric.

It ends today. It ends now. It ends right here.

Thank you.

--Jonathan Prince
Deputy Campaign Manager
John Edwards for President

P.S. Another critical way to make your voice heard is to join the thousands of us who are taking local action this weekend to directly support the troops end the war. To find and join an action near you, or to sign up to organize your own action, go to:
www. SupportTheTroopsEndTheWar.com


Paid for by John Edwards for President
Contributions to John Edwards for President are not deductible for federal income tax purposes.

410 Market Street, Suite 400, Chapel Hill, NC 27516 [phone]. johnedwards.com.

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. First choice

Kucinich is second (I KNOW HE WILL VOTE AGAINST THIS)

Gravel is third

And I cannot believe I am even considering Gravel that high

[Brundle_Fly]

62. Kucinich

Kucinich Kucinich Kucinich

[iconocrastic]

85. I contributed $800 for two haircuts. I want my money's worth.

I'll even spring for the inauguration day coiff.

[mth44sc]

2. me me

but then I've been in from the start...

[Hailtothechimp]

3. I'm still hoping Feingold gets in.

Gore would be nice, too, but Russ is the one who will get this done.

Of course, we'll be stuck with Hillary instead.

[ChiciB1]

26. I Would Pick Feingold Any Day... But He CAN'T Get Elected In The

America we have today. I would love some Paul Wellstone, Bernie Sanders and these types... but it's a DREAM I won't live to see! And it does make me sad! Obviously Wellstone will never be there, but how I miss him. This October will be 5 years since his death! He died on my birthday and I'll never forget it.

And just to date myself a little more... it was ALWAYS BOBBY from the get go! Maybe THIS time around I might have picked a winner! I don't HOPE anymore, but I can WISH!

[elocs]

28. Reality is a bitch. Feingold knew he could not get elected and that is why he is not running.

He did say he would take the second spot on the ticket, which you do not usually see.

[ChiciB1]

31. I Get Weekly Emails From Him... Just Signed Up And Donated

to him a couple of weeks ago. I absolutely LOVE his politics! They are mine! I did not hear about the second banana thing though. Interesting and that would be the topper for me!

I don't EVEN want to think what "THEY" will say to that option!

[ChiciB1]

35. Just Checked Your Personals... My First Vote For President Was

for McGovern too! I actually campaigned for him down here in Florida! Now THAT was FUN!! NOT!! My first foray and couldn't believe anyone would swipe bumper stickers off your car!

Oh, was I naive back then!!!

[rndmprsn]

4. he's my choice

kucinich is up there too, i think edwards will be a very viable candidate after Iowa and NH.

[Botany]

5. I loves me some Edwards (John too)

Stand up tall and say it loud John

[Heath Hatcher]

7. I've been with Edwards even before he announced he was running

I think he's got the heart and determination to do it and I think he can take state that someone like Hillary would have a fat chance in hell of taking.

[Clark2008]

6. Last choice. Actually NO choice. Won't vote for him.

He voted for the damn thing in the first place and now, when it's politically expedient... changes his mind.

Want an anti-war Dem - vote for Dodd.

[Botany]

10. Down girl ..... I know it is not you but the esrogen talking

Edwards has admitted he was wrong about his vote and that he fell
for the lies that were told him by the admin.. he will make a great
President w/ Clark as Sec. of State too.

BTW how is my God Daughter doing?

has the "pop up" popped?

[Buck Rabbit]

84. Correction.

October 2003, long after no WMDs and still a supporter of the war, on Hardball

Chris Matthews: Do you think that you, as a United States Senator, got the straight story from the Bush administration on this war? On the need for the war? Did you get the straight story?

John Edwards: Well, the first thing I should say is I take responsibility for my vote. Period. And I did what I did based upon a belief, Chris, that Saddam Hussein’s potential for getting nuclear capability was what created the threat. That was always the focus of my concern. Still is the focus of my concern.

So did I get misled? No. I didn’t get misled.

[bluethruandthru]

25. Dodd voted for the IWR too!

[Czolgosz]

40. You can't reason with some people. Just be glad that her post kicked the thread.

[bluethruandthru]

8. He's got my vote.

So far, he's the only candidate I've seen with any 'real' courage. Breck girl my ass...this guy's got balls!

[Clark2008]

9. What courage?

The candidates with COURAGE - those who OPPOSED IT TO BEGIN WITH - either aren't running or haven't, what? Kissed your asses enough?

JOHN EDWARDS SUPPORTED THIS WAR SO MUCH THAT HIS OP-ED WAS ON THE WHITE HOUSE OPINION PAGE! Geesch.

[bluethruandthru]

12. He's had the courage to admit he was wrong.

I don't expect any candidate to be perfect and John Edwards certainly isn't. But if I only support someone who has never made a mistake in his or her life then I'll still be waiting for that candidate come election day!

[CTLawGuy]

69. thats a pretty damn big error...

that's like saying "well, he shot my daughter, but hey no one's perfect, so I still like him."

[Heath Hatcher]

14. Correct me if i'm wrong

But didn't Kerry for for IWR as well, does that mean he didn't deserve to run for President in 2004 or even run for Re-Election in the Senate as well?

[Clark2008]

17. Yes - and your point?

I wasn't thrilled about Kerry either.

I voted in the primary for the guy who warned them ALL that this was a mistake.

[Heath Hatcher]

21. Oh you weren't thrilled about Kerry too

Then never mind Clark, this debate is stupid because my point is moot. I guess you won't be statisfied till Wes Clark throws his hat into the ring?

[jillan]

11. Nope - even if he is the last one standing.

[ShortnFiery]

13. If Obama doesn't soon speak out against this "war bill" I will be with Edwards too. n/t

[elizm]

15. Same here...n/t

[Heath Hatcher]

18. What did Obama say about the bill Shortnfiery?

Any comment from the Campaign?

[draft_mario_cuomo]

36. Obama has been conspicuously silent on this

Even if he votes correctly I am disappointed that he has not shown any leadership on this. Where was he today? Feingold, Edwards, Dodd, Kucinich, and Kerry spoke out today. Where was Obama?

[etherealtruth]

16. He's been my choice ...

Al Gore:loveya: could change my mind, but ...

[waiting for hope]

19. Keith named Edwards with

Dodd tonight in his Special Comment as the only ones to state their stance AGAINST this bill. I really don't give a crap about what happened FIVE years ago, I'm looking to the future and Edwards has been taking this stance against the President and any funding bill since April.

"John Edwards offered a clear plan to rebuild our forces and cure the damage inflicted on our military by Bush's policies. He offered a vision of an America where moral leadership is once again the rule, and where we are stronger and more secure because of it."

We can nit pick all we want on who did what when.....I'm listening to Edwards, he speaks for me and he speaks for most Americans, from Iraq all the way to how Poverty is destroying this nation.

[MethuenProgressive]

20. Aside from email petitions, what is Edwards doing to End The War in Iraq?

Begging to "please sign my petition" isn't going to end anything, Johnny.

[Heath Hatcher]

23. He really can't do anything at this present time

Since he's not in the Senate, what do you want him to do? he has no political power.

[dogman]

27. So he talks, and that's called leadership?

What did he do when he had political power? What will he be able to actually do without Congress?

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. You can say the same about Al Gore

[dogman]

32. Gore definitely has a long term record to study.

We know what he did when he had political power, since it was deeper there is more to like and more to dislike. As far as working with Congress, it seems to me that Gore has not been using the campaign trail to hammer them. Whether they deserve to be hammered is another subject. They still have to be dealt with on a political footing.

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. You undersgtasnd that outside of the Senate

that is all he can do right?

[ChiciB1]

22. Earlier This Week I Bought Two Of The T-Shirts At $20 A Pop!

But I've been with John Edwards for a long time now. I watched his interview with Wolfie earlier today and he was seriously somber, calm and cool and COLLECTED.

Many here will say he's pandering or playing the game, I've seen it more times than I feel comfortable with, but there are very few politicians one could name who haven't done it. And I must add, before many will say "well, he doesn't HAVE to vote on this stuff because he's out of Congress" I will only say this... HE didn't have to stick his neck out like he did when so many others WON'T!!

And Christopher Dodd should be commended too, I really have like him for a very long time. Maybe in the end it SHOULD be Edwards/Dodd, I never thought that before, but from my cat bird seat only these TWO actually called it for what it was!!

I've had other reasons for supporting Edwards and have talked of them in the beginning, but I don't feel I want to go there now. I will say that in the beginning I didn't completely understand WHAT it was that drew me to Edwards. I knew he had flaws and made some wrong-headed decisions AND I knew I was more LIBERAL than he, but as time went on I just kept coming back to him. Then all the attacks began here at DU and I was very hurt and frustrated, but still it didn't sway me from him.

Will I change my mind before the election? Will he do something that will turn me away, I can't say, but it hasn't happened yet. I worry that my respect and thoughts about Gore might interfere, but now not so much. I most certainly think Gore was robbed and drug through the mud, he DID WIN after all, but he seems to have come out on top anyway.

Maybe things DO happen for a reason, just think we COULD have had Mr. Lie the traitor as VP and thinking of what I feel about HIM now is truly scary! So, Al Gore you are a GREAT American and I think you deserve all the best, but perhaps for me I will still stay with JOHNNY!

It would be SOOOOOOOOO nice to see little ones in the WH again, I think America needs some of that! And yes, Obama does have little ones and I don't denounce him... but Mr. Edwards THANK YOU for sticking to your guns!

And THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN KEITH OLBERMAN!!

[pilar007]

88. lil ones

This is my exact feeling. Of course this emotion is from the Kennedy White House days where we were treated to pictures of a father being just that...a father. Ah Camelot. On a political selling point...young children will/could be used for their utter cuteness. I for one would like to see a parent of young children in the WH. I am for Edwards for his political work and legal work prior to becomming senator. I know it is shallow on many levels to like a candidate for something like "lil ones". I just think it is a plus. Then again...shallow is afoot in politics and just about everything many in our society involve themselves in...p hilton etc etc

[SaveElmer]

24. If he wins the nomination...gladly...but in the primary...no

My fifth choice if I were to rank them

[Peregrine Took]

33. I'm going with Richardson until (and if ) Al Gore enters the race. Who knows

by that time I may so smitten with BR that I won't even want Al.

[Triana]

34. That's still and always has been (thus far) my choice...

...and this is just one example why. There have been numerous others.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

37. We need a leader, not a slave to polls in the White House

This is why I support Edwards. He is a leader and candid about his beliefs. I was weighing whether to support him or Obama until Obama dodged answering a question about whether homosexuality is "immoral". HRC did the same. Edwards, though, simply honestly stated his disagreement with that statement. I am not GLBT but the fact that Obama could not state his opinion, due to political considerations, on a simple question on human rights led me to decide to back Edwards.

[ChiciB1]

38. I Was A Big Cuomo Fan Myself! n/t

[draft_mario_cuomo]

42. Edwards is the closest thing to Mario in the field right now IMO nt

[Czolgosz]

39. If Dennis drops out, Edwards is my next choice followed very closely by Obama

[ripple]

41. Edwards doesn't have to vote, nor has he since 2004

He's in a hell of a position to play armchair quarterback. When he was in a position to vote, he made a horrible choice.

I like Edwards, but let's not idolize him just yet. He's free to pander freely, while some of the other candidates still must answer to the constituents they serve.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

43. That is a weak excuse for candidates in the senate not showing leadership

The fact is that whether one is in the senate or not a political leader can show leadership against Bush's war. Feingold, Dodd, and Kerry are three sitting senators who have done so. If that trio, which includes the 2004 Dem nominee and someone who is running for president now, could do it there is absolutely no excuse why other senators could not do the same...Edwards, like this brave trio in the senate, and Kucinich in the House, led on this. Sadly, others were too busy making political calculations to do the same...

[Critters2]

47. Edwards was making a political calculation when he

sponsored the Iraq War Resolution. Now he's making another one. Brave? Please. He's just another politician. Not a leader.

[Colobo]

50. Exactly.

[ripple]

49. Obama showed proper leadership before he was elected

and at a time when naysayers were being painted as 'terrorist sympathizers'. In fact, he spoke up knowing he would likely be facing a campaign for the US Senate. In other words, he risked something.

Edwards is risking nothing, particularly given the state of public opinion right now.

Again, I like him and I'm not trying to pile on the guy, but it's the truth.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

51. Good for Obama. He was right five years ago. Where was he today?

How long will Obama's supporters try to milk him being correct half a decade ago as an excuse for him being wrong in 2007? Obama couldn't even take the risk of honestly stating whether he believes homosexuality is "immoral." Neither did HRC. Edwards and even Republican John Warner honestly answered the question when it was posed to them. Obama has come a long way from being an state senator five years ago. Unfortunately, it seems he shed much of his courage during his journey from obscurity to the national spotlight.

If Edwards is not risking anything why are HRC, Obama, and Richardson silent right now? Biden has at least come out in favor of the bill.

[Colobo]

52. Maybe the man is giving it some thought

That's his style, which is better than those who make the mistake first and 4 years later realize it...

[draft_mario_cuomo]

57. To capitulate to continue Bush's war or not to capitulate? That is the question

It is sad that question even has to be asked of a Dem presidential candidate, particularly one who is running as an anti-war candidate.

[FatDave]

70. So they've each made mistakes? Maybe no candidate is perfect?

Seriously, if you really try you'll find justification for disregarding any candidate. Is it possible that your mind is already made up about who you like, and you will defend or condemn them according to your predetermined preferences? Isn't that really the case here? So you like Obama, and you like Edwards. We're allowed to do that. We can have favorite candidates. But it's a little futile to argue over who made the bigger mistake and how the passage of time affects those mistakes. I don't think anybody's going to change anybody's mind on this one. If democrats weren't stubborn, we probably wouldn't be here.

[ripple]

63. The legislators you mentioned have constituents to answer to

Edwards does not.

Perhaps you should wait to hear what Obama has to say before forming a judgment. After all, your guy co-sponsored the damned resolution that got us there in the first place.

I really don't enjoy attacking other candidates, but the duplicity is sometimes absolutely absurd about this issue.

You're anti-war and yet you're supporting the guy who...aggghhh!
Never mind. If he gets the nod, I'll be supporting him, too.

For now, I'm sticking with the guy who exercised good judgment while it mattered. Anyone who has observed politics much at all knows that it would be political suicide for someone running for president to cut funds for a war that is already underway, especially without the votes to get it passed.

[zulchzulu]

77. A couple thingies...

First of all, you mention the idiotic question that was asked about whether Obama thought homosexuality was "immoral". No, he didn't slap the guy or laugh his ass off and say the guy was nuts. Obama has a clearly VERY supportive record on LGBT issues (http://outfordemocracy.org/arch/000581.html). The question was kind of like asking Al Gore if he thinks air pollution is good for you...

As for Obama's support of supplemental bills for the troops for a war that Edwards help start, he supports the troops. Obama also recently voted for the Feingold/Reid legislation, which would have ended funding.

It's easy for Edwards to catcall from the sidelines to end a war he fully supported even knowing that the intelligence was garbage.

Real easy... it's like O.J. Simpson telling me that knives can be dangerous...

[Critters2]

44. I won't support anyone who voted for the IWR,

Let alone someone who SPONSORED the damn thing!! I won't vote for him in the primaries, and if he gets the nomination, I'm not sure what I'll do.

I want a president with a backbone and some vision. Edwards isn't it.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

55. The IWR was five years ago

You are going to ignore their positions today based on something that happened half a decade ago? If you want a consistently anti-war candidate you should back Kucinich.

[Critters2]

59. I want someone who doesn't make decisions based on

which way the wind is currently blowing. And Edwards didn't just vote for the IWR, as many other Dems did. He SPONSORED it!! He supported the war enthusiastically. Now he's opposed. How convenient for him. Less so for those who've died or been maimed. But hey, who could have seen that coming? The IWR was five years ago. The war it started is still going on. Edwards bears responsibility.

[Colobo]

45. Edwards is my second choice.

[rateyes]

46. Kucinich, Edwards, Dodd in that order, unless...

Gore or Feingold run. Then it's Gore, Feingold, Kucinich, Edwards and Dodd. And, if ANY Dem gets the nomination who votes FOR this "compromise" then I'm staying home in November.

[huskerlaw]

48. Absolutely.

First choice. :thumbsup:

[RockLacrosse20]

53. not me

so ur for a guy who has virtually no political experience save 6 short years in the Senate, half of which was to run for President meaning he showed up to the Capital seldom, who while the 2004 campaign supports "a war on terror" as an abstract idea, and then a few short years later is completely wholeheartedly against such an idea? It the fact he looks, he LOOKS to most Americans too much like a liar to be elected, and voting for him in the primaries would be political suicide. Not to mention his reason for taking a 500k job to be a consultant to a hedge fund, a tool of the ultra rich was solely to "learn"?? Why not read a text book. This guy is an unseasoned sleaze who cannot even win his home state.

[Critters2]

60. Yep, we'll be dealing with the flip-flopping meme again,

and this time they'll be right.

[LostinVA]

90. Tell me how he looks like a liar and why he's a "sleaze"?

[AzDar]

54. As it stands today, he's my man.

:patriot:

[FrenchieCat]

56. Good for you!

I've always gotten kicked off when called in for jury duty, so I won't be doing duty for John E in '08 either. Plus, cheering for the one Leading the marching band after the game is lost just doesn't strike me as anything beyond entertaining.

But good luck with that! :thumbsup:

[jgraz]

58. Sigh...yes, but by process of elimination

I'm not wild about his disingenuous apology for his IWR vote, but he seems to be the best of an increasingly unappealing field.

[Jacklyn75]

61. Count me in with Edwards too! n/t

[byronius]

64. Gore Then Edwards Then Obama or Clinton, in order.

If Gore runs, I'm there. If he don't, Edwards gets my full support. Obama's okay. I'm a retired Hillary-Head, so it would be a tough third pick.

Is that wrong?

[ShortnFiery]

65. I'm with John Edwards too IF Obama does not speak out against this bill today. n/t

[tavalon]

66. Yes

Until Gore throws his hat in.

[LWolf]

67. Kucinich. n/t

[jtrockville]

68. I won't decide until I cast the ballot. It's way too early. nt

[zulchzulu]

71. Explain why Edwards co-sponsored IWR after being on Senate Intel Committee

At the same time that Edwards co-sponsored the Iraq War Resolution, he was on the Senate Intelligence Committee, which knew that the intelligence reports Bush used were bogus. Either he is very naive or he used the opportunity to not only bang the drum for war against Iraq and his speeches were even used by the Bush cabal to sell the war.

Now, of course, we're supposed to believe Edwards that his vote was not correct and he would never make that kind of mistake again. We're supposed to believe that someone who is yelling from the sidelines to keep sending the same war bill to Bush would not in fact keep continuing the war by proxy.

I wish all the best to Edwards supporters and the campaign. I just am not convinced he is the answer.

[More Than A Feeling]

74. People tend to forget that he represented North Carolina.

If more people in NC had opposed the war earlier, perhaps Edwards would have, too. I don't know if that makes a difference, but its something that isn't often brought up, so I thought I would. People like Ben Nelson get passes all the time for voting like their conservative constituents. Maybe North Carolina is like Nebraska (remember Jesse Helms?), maybe it isn't, but it sure as heck isn't Illinois, New York, or New England.

[zulchzulu]

75. If Edwards was a real leader, he would have said the intel was bogus...

...and perhaps many lives would have been spared on all sides.

War is not something you just do political calculus to and decide what the polls are saying. It's real as hell, literally.

[More Than A Feeling]

78. Thats a message the people who get polled needed to hear early and often.

Perhaps then they would have changed their opinions and enabled the senators who voted for the IWR to change theirs.

It's also a message the pundits need to hear early and often. Perhaps they wouldn't skew the discourse.

A message the Military-Industrial Complex and the Republican party has chosen to ignore. Nothing you can do about that except defeat the Republicans at the polls and remove the influence of big money from politics.

Blaming Democrats stuck in a totalitarian Republican congress for something that came about as the result of a whole culture and events and people that they had no control over doesn't seem right to me.

Especially when the one in question is now trying to change the discourse to remove the whole "war on terror" frame. Maybe that doesn't mean anything to you. It does to me.

If the war would have gone forth anyway even if he had opposed it, then those lives you spoke of cannot be dumped at John Edwards doorstep. We don't know whether it would or would not have, but if it would have, then there is not enough causation between his support and those deaths.

[Adelante]

72. Not today, not any day, unless he wins the nomination

He's the last one I want for president.

[HootieMcBoob]

73. I have always hoped Clark would run...but...

since it doesn't look as if he will I'm backing Edwards at this point. His stances on everything, particularly health care, are all right on. With Clark as his VP they couldn't loose :)

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

76. I haven't picked a candidate.

I haven't finished my Christmas shopping yet either.

[CTLawGuy]

79. oh yeah

I love IWR co-sponsors :eyes:

[A wise Man]

80. I am

everyone else that's for this war funding can "KMA"

[Beaverhausen]

81. Me

:hi:

[Arugula Latte]

82. This week has tipped me to Edwards.

I really wanted to be an Obama supporter, but I doubt his resolve now.

[Ethelk2044]

83. If Edwards can convince me about why he voted for the War

in the first place. Right now he is taking the easy way out. I know to know why he voted for the war in the first place. He knew everything was a lie. So why vote for the Lie?

[w4rma]

92. Because he didn't know, at that time, that the Republican leadership was this corrupt.

We all know now, but Hillary and Obama still tacitly supported the IWR-2007.

Obama and Hillary waited until it was safely passed to vote.
Obama and Hillary did not say one word against IWR-2007 until it had been passed and they voted.

And this is all while Bush's and Republican approval is in the toilet and Edwards is strongly speaking out against it and the majority of the nation (rather than 10% of the nation) is opposed to this war.

That is way things stand in the present day.

[Sparkly]

86. Could somebody link me to Edwards' plan, mentioned in this email?

Thanks in advance. :hi:

[Booster]

87. Count me in - I've always been for Edwards, but if it turns out that

a ground squirrel wins the Dem primary, then I will vote for the ground squirrel.

[JohnWxy]

89. Edwards. I like him. I think he lacks the ego of the typical politician and has loads of integrity.

Plus, he keeps his cool so well when media types or Repunks try to get him angry . A Requisite temperament in campaigning against the slime of the political circuit.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

91. Nice guy, but not this time round

sorry

[w4rma]

93. President Edwards of the United States of America! The strongest leader. (nt)

[kiteinthewind]

94. Sorry, I'm waiting for Al! Would like Gore/Edwards, tho! nt