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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:06 AM
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GOP Numbers Are In: Rudy raises $15 million, Mitt Romney 23 MILLION!!!!
According to MSNBC.

Mittens raised 23 million? Guess he has his hand in too many cookie jars?!?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:09 AM
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1. Oh, now that's interesting.
Edited on Mon Apr-02-07 10:10 AM by originalpckelly
Mitt Romulan may win the nom. for their side, and that would be wonderful. All of the candidates they have will depress fundie turn-out.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:13 AM
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6. I would say cross your fingers.
But I said that about George W. Bush in 1999 and some how the moron pulled this off!

:scared:

We can't let this happen again!! President Romney makes me wanna....

:puke:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:18 AM
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11. I don't know--I used to think that, but he's got no skeletons that I'm
aware of, and he's got a nice family and looks presidential--that's enough for sheeple, sad to say. We may be misunderestimating him. I hope the Mormon thing suppresses support for him (I hate to admit that, it's mean), but if the R's accept him, then it will be a non-issue with open-minded Dems.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 02:29 PM
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32. "The Mormon thing"...
Being a curious person, at one time I did a lot of reading about the founding of the Mormon religion. I have to wonder whether most voters realize that the "Mormon thing" is not just another Christian denomination, but a religion that veers completely in a different direction from fundamental Christianity.

I have a hard time believing that the fundies will be supportive of this, but especially when the dirty politicking begins. I'm sure that some republican opponent will bring up a question such as, "Do you think Christians who don't believe in the angel Mormoni can still go to heaven?" (or some similar swiftboating technique). After what they did to Kerry, I can't imagine that there won't be blood spilled in a fight for the nomination. Of course, bush/rove won't be running this time, so maybe I'm wrong...

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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:09 AM
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2. whaddabout McCain
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:12 AM
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4. I bet he didn't do as well.
Since he's been downplaying his numbers.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:10 AM
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3. I missed the boat
It looks like I should have invested in Salt Lake City real estate.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:13 AM
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5. I wonder who the Thompson boys will take a chunk of fundraising from
LOL!

That's quite a difference in numbers.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:13 AM
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7. Bushies are pushing Mitt. If he starts getting his poll numbers up,
he could really rebound and knock McCain out of the way. His radio ads are on the reich-wing radio here in Nebraska all the time.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:15 AM
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9. Yep, he has the Bushies, big investors, and a fake smile.
All very dangerous. Let's keep the pressure on this guy just in case he gets the nomination. We can't let another moron take the WH!!
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:19 AM
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12. DANGEROUS !?!?!?!?!?!
Get the pressure on him AFTER he gets the nomination. Something tells me we will be dealing with wanting to prevent another moron from taking the white house every election for the rest of our lives, the goal at these types of stages are to quietly hope for their most illogically chosen, misguided candidate to get nominated of those who have a chance of getting nominated.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:22 AM
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14. He just blew the rest of the GOP out of the water in the money race.
He's got the Bushies in his back pocket. He's DANGEROUS!!

Unless McCain somehow manages to get $24 million, I'm putting the pressure on this guy. We can't afford eight more years of this bullshit. Let's hope OUR best candidate is nominated, and we kick their asses royally in 08'!!
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:38 AM
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19. WE NEED WES CLARK NOW...MORE THAN EVER!
I'm afraid Hillary, Obama and Edwards can't beat this bunch who will continue using their scare tactics and a continued war to frighten the public into feeling they need a tough Republican to lead this country out
of this mess.

WES is the one this NATION NEEDS NOW! I do hope he announces soon...I can't wait...even though I know it's probably for the best to delay it a little longer!
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:40 AM
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20. I agree. Clark 08' is the best option.
It's looking like Al Gore isn't going to run, I wish he would. Gore/Clark would be unbeatable IMO.

Personally, I like Edwards too. But Clark is the guy for me ;)
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:23 AM
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15. This is frightening! Mitt wants Jeb on his ticket..
Another Bush is :scared: and wants to make me :puke: at the thoughts of it.
And he's in bed with all those damn Fundies!
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:25 AM
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16. Romney/Bush is one of the worst, most dangerous combinations....
I've ever heard!! If it's a reality, I hope our best candidate makes it through this edition of Presidential Idol.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:28 AM
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17. Oh good lord. Ugh!
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Learn2Swim Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:53 AM
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24. Ugh is right!
Wow. That would be a terrible ticket. :hide:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:46 AM
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21. Sounds like Mittens is nothing more than a bridge to Jeb in '12 or '16.
I just don't understand why they think riding *'s coattails is a good political move, it doesn't make any sense.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:14 AM
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8. Wow, he's their golden boy?
The man gives me the creeps.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:15 AM
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10. He reminds me too much of George Dubya.
THAT gives me the creeps as well.

:scared:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:21 AM
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13. Exactly! He is an empty suit--that is what the neocons want--
Bush was a frontman. They don't want a real prez--they want a nice-looking frontman. Mitt fits that bill perfectly, because he has absolutely NO convictions or principles.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:28 AM
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18. MSNBC: Giuliani only has 11 million on hand.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:47 AM
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22. Romney: Mormon backers, only repuke with just 1 wife. There you go. nt
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:48 AM
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23. These numbers are not surprising to anyone who's been keeping tab of which "loyal Bushies" have
already cast their lot with Romney, who is unmistakably the Repub insider pick to best accommodate the coalition of corporatist neocons and Christian Dominionists.

The corporatist neocons like Giuliani, but they know he cannot win the primary and that he's a grave threat to holding the Christian Dominionist faction within Karl Rove's Repub coalition of one-issue voters (which would cast a huge pall over the whole Repub ticket in many Southern states just before the 2010 round of redistricting).

And the Repub insiders think McCain's too old and too unpredictable (and so untrusted by neocons and Dominionists alike).

Fred Thompson and Newt Gingrich would only run for self-promotional reasons (and perhaps to throw their hat in the ring for VP consideration), and their failure to begin the money race before now confirms that they have no plan of entering the race to win it.

Brownback and Huckabee are too Christian Dominionist for the corporatist neocons within Rove's Repub coalition of one-issue voters.

Tancredo, Hunter, and Paul have too limited appeal to make in into the top tier.

Make no mistake: the Repub nomination is Romney's to lose, and he's hired the meanest sons of bitches in the business to make sure that neither Guiliani nor McCain have any chance of sneaking off with the nomination.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:58 AM
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25. Excellent analysis! I concur. But Rudy's gonna make it tough for Mittens
in the meantime.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 11:47 AM
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26. ...
already cast their lot with Romney, who is unmistakably the Repub insider pick to best accommodate the coalition of corporatist neocons and Christian Dominionists.

The corporatist neocons like Giuliani, but they know he cannot win the primary and that he's a grave threat to holding the Christian Dominionist faction within Karl Rove's Repub coalition of one-issue voters (which would cast a huge pall over the whole Repub ticket in many Southern states just before the 2010 round of redistricting).

And the Repub insiders think McCain's too old and too unpredictable (and so untrusted by neocons and Dominionists alike).

Fred Thompson and Newt Gingrich would only run for self-promotional reasons (and perhaps to throw their hat in the ring for VP consideration), and their failure to begin the money race before now confirms that they have no plan of entering the race to win it.

Brownback and Huckabee are too Christian Dominionist for the corporatist neocons within Rove's Repub coalition of one-issue voters.

Tancredo, Hunter, and Paul have too limited appeal to make in into the top tier.

Make no mistake: the Repub nomination is Romney's to lose, and he's hired the meanest sons of bitches in the business to make sure that neither Guiliani nor McCain have any chance of sneaking off with the nomination.


I wouldn't count out Brownback so early...that's just my opinion.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 12:10 PM
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27. I don't disagree. I think the Repub nomination is Romney's to lose, but Brownback is one of the few
who could steal it from Romney. If the Christian Dominionist vote consolidates behind Brownback (which seems more likely than it consolidating Huckabee), Brownback could pull of a huge upset in the far-right Christan Iowa caucus. If that happens, everything becomes much more unpredictable . . .
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 12:13 PM
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28. Brownback and Huckabee are polling at about 1% each--they've
got so much catching up to do, and so many other candidates would have to implode, for them to get the nod. Just sayin'.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 12:15 PM
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29. The only thing worse than Romney is Brownback.
:puke:

And Huckabee, what a fucking phoney!! I can't believe some can't get past the warm smile, and see what he really is!!
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 12:18 PM
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30. Inexplicably, the Daily Kos loves Huckabee. I think they're using
some sort of weird calculus and a few Daily Show appearances as a basis for thinking he'll get the nom. He won't--he's considered a tax-raiser. Money and tax-cutting is more of a religion to fundies than religion itself.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 04:04 PM
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33. Brownback and Huckabee are polling at 1% nationally, but they are doing a tiny bit better in Iowa
Here is Zogby's March '07 polling data for Iowa (the January '07 numbers are in parenthesis):

25% (19%) - Rudy Giuliani
19% (17%) - John McCain
11% (5%) - Mitt Romney
7% (--) - Fred Thompson
5% (1%) - Tommy Thompson
3% (1%) - Sam Brownback
2% (1%) - Mike Huckabee
1% (2%) - Tom Tancredo
1% (2%) - Chuck Hagel


Here's the Democratic field for comparison:

27% (27%) - John Edwards
25% (16%) - Hillary Rodham Clinton
23% (17%) - Barack Obama
3% (3%) - Joe Biden
3% (1%) - Bill Richardson
1% (1%) - Dennis Kucinich
1% (--) - Chris Dodd
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 01:51 PM
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31. Romney's $20M primary funds only. Clinton still has not said how much of $26M is for the general.
Clinton's totals, announced yesterday, include funds raised for both the primary and the general election. Some of that money -- she has not yet disclosed how much -- can only be spent if she wins her party's nomination. Both Romney and Guiliani's totals represent only primary money.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/02/AR2007040200140.html?hpid=topnews
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 07:01 PM
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34. There are a lot of rich mormons
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