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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 10:30 PM
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Don't rush training of Iraqi forces -US commander

Don't rush training of Iraqi forces -US commander


Thu 7 Dec 2006 22:24:13 GMT

By Andrew Gray

WASHINGTON, Dec 7 (Reuters) - A U.S. military commander warned on Thursday against rushing the training of Iraqi security forces, a day after a top advisory panel recommended a substantial boost to the effort within the next year.

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Maj. Gen. Carter Ham, commander of the U.S. Army's 1st Infantry Division that prepares teams of U.S. troops to embed with Iraqi forces, said he could boost his operations with more resources but Iraqi units also needed to gain experience.

"This is experience that sometimes only time can bring," he told the U.S. House of Representatives Armed Services Committee.

"I think we're all interested in being faster but we must also be careful not to make it so fast that it would put units in harm's way before they are ready," he said.

Ham said the failure of an ill-prepared Iraqi unit in battle would have consequences not just for those troops.

"That undermines the confidence not only of the unit but undermines the confidence of the government and of the people in their security forces," he told Reuters after the hearing.

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KERRY: By taking control. I mean, this is a country that fought a 10-year war with Iran, lost a million people in the process of that. These are not people who are incapable of taking over their security. But as long as we have been the security blanket, they have had no incentive to do it. And the real issue, ultimately, is diffusing the reason that it is insecure. That requires the political settlement.




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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 10:33 PM
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1. So while we wait for them to get experience our soldiers die at
a rate of 5-10 a day....No thank you.....they get year or less to get their experience and we are done..
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 10:33 PM
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2. Agree 195 wounded every two days
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 10:37 PM
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3. Holy shit...I hadn't heard that statistic...
so 97.5 wounded soldiers per day....Dear God....

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 11:08 PM
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4. This earns a spot in the
"any excuse" category.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 11:13 PM
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5. I wonder what the ratio of...
trained and then blown up is? Didn't I read something about Iraqi's being trained out of the country? Or was that last year? Or the year before? I don't know how a 'government' is going to 'step-up' when they can't even 'step-out' without getting blown to bits.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 11:17 PM
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6. what about the
"trained and now blowing up US troops" numbers, gotta be some.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 11:33 PM
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7. What do you think the ratio is?
Story after story for a couple of years, of these guys getting whacked by the bus load. But you're right...I suppose the death of one US soldier equals a whole bunch of Iraqi's. Wow...that sure solved alot of problems eh?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 11:37 PM
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8. Don't rush. We've only been doing this longer than WWII
Don't get in a hurry. Things are just fine. Contractors are making big bucks.

Anyone else think this should have been planned and executed FOUR FUCKING YEARS AGO?
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